Which ammo manufacturers are selling to DHS?

www.freerupblic.com ^ | April 8 2013 | NLZ

[IbJensen]

If I posted an article like this without a legitimate linkage the website 'administrator' would have yanked it.

Having said that, it is a legitimate question. Who sold all that ammo to the central socialist government?

[TigersEye]

Lines for ammo long at Crossroads of West Gun Show Ontario ( Ammo makers picked the DHS over us)

[old curmudgeon]

Pressure works best when they think they make more money.

Pressure and boycotts are two totally different animals.

[DBrow]

Look on fed Biz Opps, www.fbo.gov, for “awarded contracts” and search for things like ammunition, 223, you know.

It was through fbo that we found out about the request for proposals for the ammo. If a contract was awarded as a follow on to the RFP, it will be detailed on fbo.

It might not be called awarded contracts but click around and you’ll see.

[Fightin Whitey]

Had a similar discussion back on April 3rd and Oberon was good enough to provide this answer:

Part of the federal licensing requirements for munitions factories is that federal contracts take first priority in order fulfillment.

[IbJensen]

Perhaps it was the company that sold ammo to the Afghans a few years back.

AEY Inc operating out of an unmarked office in Miami Beach.

[yarddog]

One thing I have noticed recently are trucks hauling large trailers full of pine stumps. I mean they will be packed to the gills. Recently I saw one stopped in front of my house by a state highway inspector. He was using portable scales to weight the truck and it’s load.

Maybe they have always been coming by but I have at least begun to notice.

Those stumps are used in making gun powder.

[DaveA37]

Here’s another take on the ammo shortage. It DOES make sense.

“This is a huge mess and I am going to offer this on why there is no product. First let me say has there been a ban passed yet? On anything, about anything? NOT YET.

With the effort of everyone there won’t be either. Having said that the word ban, new laws, regulations...put people in a frenzy. I can assure you that there is no intentional shortage by said manufacture. IMO, it is coming from the panic people put themselves in. People are shopping for ammo that shoot once every other year. Why? Because someone told them there won’t ever be any .22 lr ammo ever. Or, the guy who hears there is a shortage on something so he runs out every chance to get it and creates an even bigger shortage. Someone who might use a pound of powder over the span of five years is in dire need of it. Right?

You folks all know someone I am talking about. Maybe even look in the mirror. If the panic and frenzy stopped at three o’ clock today, it would take at least one year for the shelves to be stocked as they were prior to this craziness.

I wish some people would calm down a tick because putting yourself in dire emergency to get some products is only making this mess worse and lengthening it.”

[Chode]

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/ammo-manufacturers-scramble-keep-demand-reassure-eager-customers

Ammo Manufacturers Scramble to Keep Up with Demand, Reassure Eager Customers

The run on ammunition has manufacturers scrambling to accommodate demand and reassure customers, as many new and seasoned gun owners stock up over fears of new firearms regulations at both the state and federal levels.

Hornady, an ammunition manufacturer located in Grand Island, Nebraska, offers answers to concerned customers on the FAQ page of their website:

Q: Have you stopped production, or has the government forced you to stop?
A: Not at all.

Q: Since we can't find your product you must be selling it all to the government.
A: Nope, less than 5% of our sales are to government entities.

Q: Why can't you make more? Ramp up production? Turn on all the machines?
A:We've been steadily growing our production for a long time, especially the last five years. We've added presses, lathes, CNC equipment, people and space. Many popular items are produced 24 hours a day. Several hundred Hornady employees work overtime every week to produce as much as safely possible. If there is any question about that - please take a tour of the factory. You'll be amazed at what you see.

The page also states:

"We are producing as much as we can; much more than last year, which was a lot more than the year before, etc. No one wants to ship more during this time than we do.

"We appreciate everyone's understanding and patience. We don't know when the situation will improve, so please bear with us a little longer. And remember, when it comes to Hornady Manufacturing, if you don't hear it from us, please don't believe it."

Other ammo manufacturers are saying virtually the same thing.

Jeff Hoffman, president of Black Hills Ammunition told GunsandAmmo:

"We have a little bit of the hunting calibers on hand, like .270, but everything else is gone. It's only skipping once on its way out the door."

Keith Enlow, senior vice president and ammunition manager at Freedom Group, said:

"Even though we're in the middle of panic buying, we don't see the demand for ammunition going away any time soon."

And, according to Guns&Ammo, Remington's official statement on ammo production is:

"Remington is at full capacity at this time in a majority of categories of ammunition. We are continuing to look at how to increase capacity and supply our ammunition products to the various channels of distribution/sales that we support."

The major online ammunition distributors mirror the messages of the manufacturers.

LuckyGunner, located in Knoxville Tennessee provides this message to its customers:

"Our team has been working nights and weekends to ensure that the service we deliver to you is not compromised by the current heightened demand for ammunition."

"Our team is working very hard to secure more product for you and we will.  When its available to be sold, you will see it on our site."

[TurboZamboni]

you can execute murderous felons!
(they might be able to vote Dem.)

[Red in Blue PA]

Anyone who values their liberty should be reloading. With store bought ammo, one is always at the mercy of govt and the masses.

[Red in Blue PA]

I was at Cabela’s today in Hamburg PA and of course they had nothing....no .223, no .22LR, nothing.

That is obvious.

But what struck me is the fact that even the plastic ammo boxes were sold out of most calibers.

[Ben Mugged]

What DHS is doing is driving up market demand which will cause an increase in production and eventually a glut on the market.

[EricT.]

I would like to buy a lot of ammo, but the kind I need is mostly made in Eastern Europe.

Yes, I have a commie rifle. I call it “Irony.”

[AdaGray]

This is important. They are collaborators.

[taildragger]

What DHS is doing is driving up market demand which will cause an increase in production and eventually a glut on the market.

I had a very interesting conversation with a financial pro that gets it. He sees what the Bernakster and the Banksters are doing, where it will lead to etc. FWIW he warned me the banksters want it all and that don't think the "preppers" won't get whipsawed with the Bernanke pump and dump and hold deflating assets as well before hyperinflation kicks in. No one will mention that buying gobs of ammo, precious metals etc could be a crappy investment if like you mention a glut does come to fruition. As he noted timing might be everything...

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I’m a big proponent of a “Ronco(tm) Home Ammo Maker”.

The logic is odd, that many people are frightened of the simple shop tools need to load and reload. However, put the equivalent of those same shop tools in a white plastic box perhaps the size, or twice the size, of a breadmaker, with a few buttons on the front, and many people would be as happy as a clam to “make their own ammo”.

Put fifty primers, face up, in Rack ‘A’. Put fifty empty, primer-less cartridges, face down, in Rack ‘B’, and fifty bullets, face up, in Rack ‘C’. Put preloaded powder dispenser in slot ‘D’. Push ‘On’ button, then watch for any warning lights.

[x_plus_one]

http://info.atk.com/lakecity/

[midcop402]

Funny, Cabela’s in Saginaw, MI had several hundred boxes of PMC 55gr FMJ. It was $10.00 per box. Sold a lot today but there were still several hundred on the shelves when I left. We haven’t seen 9mm in a while. When we do, it is gone in minutes. 45 acp value packs lasted a couple of hours and the 40 went out the door right away.

[Boogieman]

“What we need to do is buy all we can to encourage the manufacturers to produce more.”

There is a shortage produced by panic buying. The manufacturers are already scaling up production as fast as they can to try to cash in, so I don’t think they can do it any faster. If people continue to just keep buying all the ammo they can as soon as it’s available, the shortage is just going to continue.