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Gabby Giffords falsely implies that her shooter evaded a background check
Twitchy ^ | 04/07/2013 | Twitchy staff

Posted on 04/07/2013 10:54:56 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Former congresswoman Gabby Giffords’ op-ed piece is getting a lot of praise on Twitter. This is the part of the piece that caught our attention: What they will do is create one fair system for all gun buyers, instead of the giant loophole we have now. Right now, we have one system where responsible gun owners take a background check — And then we have a second system for those who don’t want to take a background check. Those people — criminals, or people suffering from mental illness, like the young man who shot me — can buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked. Giffords seems to be implying that her shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, didn’t undergo a background check. This is not true. Loughner obtained the gun legally, and he passed a background check.

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KEYWORDS: backgroundcheck; banglist; gabbygiffords; giffords; guncontrol; markkelly; secondamendment; ubc
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1 posted on 04/07/2013 10:54:56 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Buy a gun thru the Internet, and it goes to a licensed dealer who will do the paperwork & background check on you...


2 posted on 04/07/2013 10:57:22 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Rusty0604

“Those people — criminals, or people suffering from mental illness,”

Was she talking about herself?


3 posted on 04/07/2013 10:57:38 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Rusty0604

Grabby didn’t write that! Somebody else wrote that!


4 posted on 04/07/2013 10:58:53 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: Rusty0604

“Those people — criminals, or people suffering from mental illness, like the young man who shot me — can buy as many guns as they want on the Internet or at a gun show, no questions asked”

Total bullshit.

Ms. Giffords you are a bald-faced liar just like your husband.


5 posted on 04/07/2013 10:59:33 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Rusty0604

She is practically a vegetable anyway. I wonder if her husband put her up to that op ed piece?


6 posted on 04/07/2013 10:59:36 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Rusty0604

Well, actually, all of the evidence suggests that the Democrat Sheriff passed Jared Lochner, even though he was known to be crazy and had committed an earlier offense that was shrugged off by the local park rangers, because his mother was a powerful Democrat political operative.

The system would have worked if it had not been for the corruption of a bunch of crony Democrats scratching each others’ backs.


7 posted on 04/07/2013 10:59:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rusty0604

He passed the background check because the local Sheriff, a liberal Dem, sh*tcanned the report from the community college declaring Loughner a threat. NICS never got the red flag that would have stopped the loony. He did this because Loughner’s mom was a pal of his, a Corruptocrat just like him who worked for the County.

And then Sheriff Dupnik blamed Sarah Palin for the shooting.


8 posted on 04/07/2013 11:00:15 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Stepan12

Duh. She’s just a sock-puppet now. It’s sad because she used to have a mind of her own.


9 posted on 04/07/2013 11:01:13 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Rusty0604

Note to wife and family: If I am ever shot in the head, do not parade me around in front of cameras putting stupid and untrue words in my mouth! I’d rather die than live as a professional victim like Brady and Giffords.


10 posted on 04/07/2013 11:03:14 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Rusty0604

And by design, any criticism of MS. Giffords will be made to appear mean-spirited and hateful. How dare you question this plucky woman who was so gravely wounded by an evil unregulated gun!


11 posted on 04/07/2013 11:03:39 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: max americana

The title obviously meant that mark kelley-giffords told gabby to say that. Sadly, I’m not sure she could put that together without the puppet master feeding it to her. And simply, again, they said the perp was mental. The gun wasn’t mental or deranged. It only did what the perp directed it to do. Geez these people are clueless. Or not. Law abiding victims everywhere are getting PO’d.


12 posted on 04/07/2013 11:03:50 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Rusty0604

When liberals talk about background checks, they are not referring to the current instant background checks that people go through now. They want something a lot more invasive and time-consuming. Basically, they want a very long waiting period and a “may issue” LEO driven process. They want to institute background checks similar to how Massachusetts does a CCW request, not just for ccw, but for all gun purchases.


13 posted on 04/07/2013 11:07:21 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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Fight the Leftist Gun Grabbers.
Support Free Republic.


14 posted on 04/07/2013 11:12:18 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Rusty0604

Its not Giffords writing this, its her lunatic husband who refuses to give up his 15 minutes of fame. Gifford’s brain, or whats left of it, is swiss cheese..its her husband calling all the shots now..he runs the show..I always knew he was a schmuck, from the moment I saw him I knew he was a piece of crap


15 posted on 04/07/2013 11:14:30 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Rusty0604

Shut up, Gabby.


16 posted on 04/07/2013 11:19:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Stepan12
She is practically a vegetable anyway. I wonder if her husband put her up to that op ed piece?

That abusive, dishonest POS probably wrote it and signed her name ... Doubt she even knows about it.

17 posted on 04/07/2013 11:21:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Rusty0604

Id be more upset at who orchestrated any statement by Giffords. Good grief, the woman suffered a massive trauma to the brain. Can’t they just let her enjoy life rather than trotting her out as a propaganda piece?!? The inhumanity of the left knows no boundaries.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 11:22:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
Mark Kelley is just following in the foul footsteps of POS Sarah Brady, who spent over a decade abusing her severely wounded husband as a pro-tyranny meat puppet.

Both of them are lower than whale poop at the bottom of the ocean.

19 posted on 04/07/2013 11:28:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
sh*tcanned the report from the community college declaring Loughner a threat.

I have to admit this gives me pause.

If a community college can issue a report that someone is a threat, then that person should lose a God given right because someone says he's crazy?

My gut tells me that this "mental health" issue is really what the dems are after and this will end up being the compromise...and we're falling into the trap.

Consider this, in the late sixties it was promoted and excepted by many that felons should not be able to by a gun, I mean after all that sounds so reasonable , right?

The fact of the matter is you are stripping the right away from a class of person simply because it is societally acceptable, Constitution be damned....with the support of many here.

Now it has progressed to persons under restraining orders, Misdemeanor "domestic violence" (yell at your spouse in some states and it's considered domestic violence) and on and on.....

Now, with Obama care being instituted, digital medical records, massive data storage facilities being built, technology that allows the government to accumulate data on your every web post and activity couple with every word you uttered to your doctor, well you get my point.

When we get to the point of "someone" deciding who is mentally "fit" to own a firearm, well I think that is a very dangerous road to go down....an I think it is a trap just like the argument in the 60's..."who could support a felon buying a firearm"?

20 posted on 04/07/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Rusty0604

Gabby needs to STFU and go away. Her 15 minutes was up a long time ago AND she needs to take her useful idiot husband with her.


21 posted on 04/07/2013 11:36:35 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Rusty0604

Somebody needs to quit pulling her string so she doesn’t speak.


22 posted on 04/07/2013 11:38:45 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
If a community college can issue a report that someone is a threat, then that person should lose a God given right because someone says he's crazy?

He was thrown off the campus because he was threatening his teachers and fellow students. It was at the recommendation of a psychiatrist, and it was not lightly done. He was as certifiable as the clown in the movie theater in Colorado, and nothing was done about that either.

If you want to go on record as stating a violently crazy person has a right to a gun, go ahead but you won't find a lot of people who agree with you. Not even the counter worker at Wal-Mart who refused to sell him bullets that morning.

23 posted on 04/07/2013 11:44:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t think very highly of a sleazebag who would use his own wife as a tool to sell communism for the commie ‘RATS while picking up a few bucks on the side.


24 posted on 04/07/2013 11:47:31 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: Rusty0604

The column was most likely written by Giffords’s genius husband.


25 posted on 04/07/2013 11:51:17 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: 3Fingas
When liberals talk about background checks, they are not referring to the current instant background checks that people go through now. They want something a lot more invasive and time-consuming.

I think the leaders of the DemocRat party should set an example for the rest of the country by undergoing the background checks that they are demanding for the rank and file citizen and making those results public.

And that includes King Barry, himself.

26 posted on 04/07/2013 11:53:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
He was thrown off the campus because he was threatening his teachers and fellow students.

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info.

It was at the recommendation of a psychiatrist

If you want to go on record as stating a violently crazy person has a right to a gun, go ahead but you won't find a lot of people who agree with you.

I never implied that, I merely stated that this is a dangerous road to go down.

Who will have the authority to decide who is mentally fit to own a weapon?

Who will set the criteria?

Will we amend the Constitution or will we just write more laws that punish good people for the sake of the few who are bad?

If you can by law strip individuals of their God given rights at the whim of a frenzied public, what good is the Constitution?

Actually, isn't that what the Constitution is designed to protect against (I.E. the whims of that masses, AKA democrats)

I submit that if rights can be taken away because of the whims of the masses, they are not rights after all, and none of them are really "God Given" let alone safe.

27 posted on 04/07/2013 11:57:17 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Rusty0604

Gifford’s couldn’t write an Op ed in her state of mindless.


28 posted on 04/07/2013 12:05:15 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I never implied that, I merely stated that this is a dangerous road to go down. Who will have the authority to decide who is mentally fit to own a weapon? Who will set the criteria?

Those are excellent questions that have to be answered, especially in the context of this argument going on about "expanded background checks." Who decides who's too crazy to own a gun? Can a person that crazy ever be rehabilitated to the point they can own one? Psychopaths and Sociopaths lie rather convincingly. The Russians taught us in the 20th Century that "crazy" label can be abused to deprive sane people of their rights, are we inviting the US government to do the same? What other rights are at stake? What damage will be done to HIPAA privacy rights?

29 posted on 04/07/2013 12:23:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

There is a ton of questions that have to be asked, and the filthy Dems are trying to rush legislation through before anybody can digest the answers.


30 posted on 04/07/2013 12:25:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Rusty0604
What they will do is create one fair system for all gun buyers, instead of the giant loophole we have now.

Whenever you hear a representative of the Democratic [sic] party speak the word "fair," it's time to make sure your wallet and civil rights haven't just been stolen.

31 posted on 04/07/2013 12:26:18 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Rusty0604
Gabby Giffords falsely implies that her shooter evaded a background check

Libs never let the facts stand in the way of a good lie.

32 posted on 04/07/2013 12:28:28 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: Cyber Liberty
You've posited some good questions and points too.

Can a person that crazy ever be rehabilitated to the point they can own one?

If I may add to this, what if you're mistakenly put on the list, how would you get off of it?

What damage will be done to HIPAA privacy rights?

Right on imo. Funny, the PTB write "privacy" laws ye they're free to violate them at every turn....at their "whim"

I just have a gut feeling we're being set up for this "mental" health thingy, that's what they're really after.

The GOP will fall for it as a compromise, I think it's a trap.

JMHO.

33 posted on 04/07/2013 12:40:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The GOP will fall for it as a compromise, I think it's a trap.

Ayup. On both counts. That explains Obastard's hurry-up posture.

34 posted on 04/07/2013 12:46:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
There is a ton of questions that have to be asked, and the filthy Dems are trying to rush legislation through before anybody can digest the answers.

I think the first question that should be asked is why are so many of our young people going nuts and what influence do psychotropic drugs have on them?

I know, I'm dreaming as that would assume politicians want to solve the problem rather than create/prolong them to justify their careers and running platforms.

35 posted on 04/07/2013 12:47:32 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
If I may add to this, what if you're mistakenly put on the list, how would you get off of it?

BTW, that is already a problem with the NICS system. There is no easy way to challenge it if you are on the red-flag list. You need to hire a lawyer and sue them if you are mistakenly listed.

36 posted on 04/07/2013 12:48:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Rusty0604
Gun Grabby Giffords lies, whoulda thunk it? /s


37 posted on 04/07/2013 12:49:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
There is no easy way to challenge it if you are on the red-flag list. You need to hire a lawyer and sue them if you are mistakenly listed.

Yeah, my Dad had that problem some years ago (6 or 7 maybe) when he was denied purchase of a 9mm in Arizona of all places

The man has had security clearances up the wazoo since the late 60's yet for some reason he was denied.

Anyway, he contacted then Senator Kyle and surprise, surprise, Kyle actually took care of it in an expedient fashion...IIRC it only took a few weeks and it was resolved.

I don't know how it is with other States or Senators but Kyle sure handled it....I wonder if it is different now and if a Senator would even go to bat for a lowly "Citizen these days?

38 posted on 04/07/2013 12:57:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m glad your Dad was able to get that fixed. Flake, who replaced Kyl, would never do that. He was a very good Representative, but he’s been stabbing conservatives in the back since he was elected Senator. He’s been saying he doesn’t like the “universal background checks,” but I expect him to vote for them. And I wouldn’t even bother McPain’s receptionist.


39 posted on 04/07/2013 1:06:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Thanks...as far as McCain, I think it was him I heard on a radio clip arguing for these background checks??

I could be mistaken but it sure sounded like him.

Anyway, what was that old saying....stop the world, I want to get off? Strange days indeed.

40 posted on 04/07/2013 1:14:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Cyber Liberty

LOL! Speaking of the devil!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3005160/posts


41 posted on 04/07/2013 1:16:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

McStain doesn’t understand the Constitution he has sworn many times to protect and defend. Pick an issue, any issue, and he’ll cave, right at the worst possible moment to inflict maximum damage to conservatives. Such is the nature of RINOs.


42 posted on 04/07/2013 1:28:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Certainly someone else wrote it. I doubt she could heat herself a bowl of soup.


43 posted on 04/07/2013 1:40:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Rusty0604

you can’t buy a gun “on the internet” without going through an ffl. sorry. fail.


44 posted on 04/07/2013 1:41:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Do Democrats ever have a mind of their own?

If they do they never use it. They just vote like the party tells them to.


45 posted on 04/07/2013 1:41:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oh, back to the point of the thread....

In a way, Giffords’ puppet-master is technically correct that Loughner “evaded” a background check. He escaped being listed in NICS when he should have been because of the local crooked Democrat Sheriff. That Sheriff, with help from Obastard, then drew attention away from his own perfidy by blaming Sarah Palin for the shooting. But Mr. Giffords doesn’t want it being broadcast around that the kook who shot his wife was allowed to buy a gun by a Democrat Sheriff who could have stopped him.

Gun Grabby Giffords was shot, and Federal Judge Rolls murdered along with a darling little girl on her birthday, because a local Democrat hack politician conspired with another Pima County official to hide her son’s criminally mental state from NICS. Bottom line.


46 posted on 04/07/2013 1:42:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

yes they knew for years this guy was unstable and dangerous. now this explains how he passed the background checks. liberals bypasing the system.


47 posted on 04/07/2013 1:42:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Amen Sir:

They set up foundations that they run and use their spouses as fund raisers.


48 posted on 04/07/2013 1:43:48 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Do Democrats ever have a mind of their own?

She did. She voted with the Pubbies on occasion. She had a grade better than "F" with the NRA. (She had a "C" in 2010) Now her liberal husband is calling the shots.

49 posted on 04/07/2013 1:46:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Rusty0604

Don’t look to the left for truth or accuracy. They will lie, cheat, steal, anything. Nothing is beneath them in the furtherance of their political agenda. Nothing.


50 posted on 04/07/2013 2:21:13 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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