Posted on 03/12/2013 6:00:02 PM PDT by Kartographer
Thanks for saying that. I tell the truth as I see it in every post - if I say it, I mean it. We all have our own way of living and there will be differences between all of us - we can learn from those differences. I live by myself with my Yorkie, so I'm all I have to take care of myself. Did I mention I have a PINK Ruger rifle? :o) I find humor in most of what I do.
I wish you well as we both slosh through these trying times. I write prepper articles on another website. Freepmail me if you would like to read those as my life is pretty much laid open in those articles.
This is one of the best descriptions I have read on why libs get so bent out of shape with regards to self-reliance.
She’ll be the first one whining at your door.
Because we’ve been being told massive meltdowns are going to happen any minute now for 50 years and nothing terribly exciting has happened so we’ve grown weary.
Already planning on that.
The problem will be OPSEC. I’ll have to keep her from communicating with the outside world during the “shift”.
>> “Because we’ve been being told massive meltdowns are going to happen any minute now for 50 years” <<
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That statement is utterly false.
The only ‘meltdown’ that was notoriously promoted in the past 50 years was Y2K, and most here were well aware that there was no significant computer date issue on the horizon, since mortgages have been standardized to 30 years, and nothing was going wrong in mortgages written after 1970.
Yep, that, too. Relatives should be the first on everyone’s “Can’t Trust” list. They’ll sell you out to the first person they meet.
Johnny, you said:
“I’m not a prepper. Because of the economy, I have to live like it’s the mid 1800s.”
Actually, you are probably more of a prepper than 99% of us contributing to these prepper threads.
Your posts point out an aspect of prepping sometimes mentioned but sometimes overlooked in these discussions.
Prepping isn’t only about buying stuff.
It’s also about mental preparation and learning/honing skills necessary to live self sufficiently as much as practicable.
In fact, as I think about it, while food, water and other stores will be absolutely necessary in the short term following a disaster, knowledge, skills and tools will be more important in the long term.
After all - how many people can store enough food and water for their family to last 2 years, 5 years? 10 years? 20 years?
To most the closing down of supermarkets will be an immediate disaster.
To some preppers it may reach disaster levels only when their prepper stores run out.
To the self sufficient it may hardly be a bump in the road.
As far as learning skills for self sufficiency I’m finding it’s not that easy.
It is one thing to grow a couple of vegetable plants for fun. Or to hunt for hogs as a sport or for a little extra meat.
It’s quite another to grow enough vegetabls and other crops to live on between harvests. Or to bring home enough wild game to live on.
And then there is the need to learn the techniques and skills to safely store your food without electrical power, refrigeration, etc.
Sorry but you’re wrong. 1962 was when Silent Spring got published and “the world is going to end” became a popular cult. Then we start getting Paul Ehrlich’s clap trap in the late 60s. Then of course in the late 70s there was some talk about the next ice age. In the 80s we get the hole in the ozone layer, followed very closely by global warming hysteria which is still with us. And of course over long stretches of time there was fear of nuclear war, and that got replaced by economic collapse which is still quite popular today, especially with conservatives that don’t buy into global warming. And that’s just the relatively sane popular doom predictions, not even getting into the stuff the woovey-groovey crowd got into like planetary alignments and the various interpretations of Nostradamus and 2012.
The fact is there’s been at least one group taken fairly seriously predicting the world (or at least the chunk of the world they live in) is going to end for a long time. We have two full generations of adults that grew up in the post Silent Spring world, and a lot of them have grown quite weary of the drumbeat.
And actually there was a lot of software that was going to have serious problems with Y2K, but it got fixed. Made a lot of old COBOL programmers a lot of money. Of all the threats it was probably the closest one to true, at the time the alarm was raised in the industry there was a lot of software that was going to fail without a fix. By the time people outside of software heard of it though we were already well on path.
Interesting. It certainly is more up in the air with 0bummer running things as he may keep the US on the sidelines.
What would the worst case scenario be do you think?
Interesting. It certainly is more up in the air with 0bummer running things as he may keep the US on the sidelines.
What would the worst case scenario be do you think?
Yep. That's why I've been working my arse off in an 810 sq ft garden for one person. The tomatoes that come out of that will carry me to next year's harvest. I'm still using up jalapenos from last year's harvest. I don't have any of last year's oil, but I've still got lard from the pigs this winter. And I've still got cured and smoked pork that will last me well into summer.
But those things take time, and they take skillsets. They aren't hard to learn, but you have to learn it, and you have to take to time to do it. I've made most of my mistakes on that stuff years ago (even though I do manage to find new mistakes to make). I'm in production now, R&D is over.
/johnny
The best reason not to prep is that the main reason for prepping — the much fantasized about SHTF scenario — isn’t going to happen.
Which isn’t to say that keeping a few weeks of supplies on hand isn’t wise since lesser disasters, especially natural disasters, do happen from time to time, and since that level of preparedness is practical for most people.
But go much beyond that and it quickly becomes a strictly optional lifestyle choice or hobby.
“...Their “deity” is the collective, solidified in the government. When you prepare to be self reliant, you’re saying that their god is not all powerful, and that’s blasphemous....”
Very well put and directly to the point. Your statement is exactly why I call them communists. They hate it when you call them that too, but that is exactly what they are. They are no longer freedom-loving Americans but rather collective socialist-communists. IMHO, I don’t believe the two ideological groups can co-exist.....it’s just a matter of time. Not IF, but WHEN...
If the 10th were strenuously enforced and adhered to,
we’d have no trouble with these “American” communists.
People would just leave any state that they couldn’t stem the leftist tide in, and leave them to stew in their own failed ideology.
However, communism is an all-consuming and all-corrupting ideology that will not allow anyone to “escape” that easily.
This one was called: “The Shelter”; it was pretty creepy! I looked it up by the words “twilight zone episode dealing with bomb attack” (I think)and found it! A couple of the details in the description in my post were a little bit wrong, but not much. One of them was the attack.
It was the warning that a couple of UFOs were seen flying toward the town. Later, it was announced that they were harmless satellites, and the alarm was called off! I guess it was believed at the time the show was made-early 60s-that those objects could be carrying a nuclear bomb or something.
This one was called: “The Shelter”; it was pretty creepy! I looked it up by the words “twilight zone episode dealing with bomb attack” (I think)and found it! A couple of the details in the description in my post were a little bit wrong, but not much. One of them was the attack.
It was the warning that a couple of UFOs were seen flying toward the town. Later, it was announced that they were harmless satellites, and the alarm was called off! I guess it was believed at the time the show was made-early 60s-that those objects could be carrying a nuclear bomb or something.
Oops, sorry for double posts; I got confused, thinking I hadn’t already posted!
No, you missed it.
Neither Carson, nor Ehrlich were ever taken seriously by any functional being. Global warming is of even lower caliber that either of them. I don’t remember anyone taking nuclear war seriously either. How many ever built bomb shelters?
These were all form your compadres on the left.
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