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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 8 FEBRUARY 22, 2013
Free Republic | February 22, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 02/22/2013 1:35:16 PM PST by greeneyes

It's a cold, cloudy day with plenty of snow on the ground. Not much good for gardening, but the kind of day when you want to put a stock pot on the back burner, and turn on the oven to bake bread, casseroles, and/or roasts. All to make you warm inside and out.LOL

I have been reviewing some of the heirloom grains this week and need to narrow the list down to 2 or 3 that I will order. Teff and Quinoa are 2 that may make the cut.

I will be planting some crimson clover this week or next as a soil conditioner in a few beds to turn under in April or May. The rest already had winter rye planted last fall.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; asparagus; food; gardening; hobby; pictures; sweetpotatoes
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1 posted on 02/22/2013 1:35:27 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Do you have those beds under cover? How are you planting clover with snow on the ground?


2 posted on 02/22/2013 1:40:58 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes
It's been cold here in San Diego but we've got a decent winter harvest of Broccoli and cabbage anyway.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 1:41:56 PM PST by South40
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To: greeneyes
I was beginning to worry about you. Hope all is well there.

My indoor early starts are taking over the house. The peppers got transplanted into their 16oz containers, so take up a lot more room now.

I'm ready for mid-march/early april when I can start putting some of this stuff out. ;)

/johnny

4 posted on 02/22/2013 1:50:22 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

My amaranth seeds sprouted again! This time I had them on a soil pellet which we’ve been keeping moist. Today we put them on the window sill for some sun.

I got my amaranth seed from the bulk food bin at the health food store. I took out some of them to see if they are viable and they are! I bought them last spring as a rice/grain alternative for $1.99/pound.

The sweet potato sprout is happy too. It’s starting to put out roots. However, when it is time to put soil on its toes, I’m not sure what I need to do. I’m thinking of potting it, but would that keep it from having babies if the pot is too small? How much room do you think it would need? I’m totally new to potato growing of any kind! It’s all a lovely science experiment at this stage....and hoping it doesn’t become more serious than that...

A friend of mine is quite an experience gardener and she was telling us that asperagus does well in our area, and what I need to do is get a package of the little rootlets in dirt which the the box stores sell. Dig a trench and scatter the rootlets in after the danger of frost. Then cover lightly, and as they grow gradually add the dirt back over them. She said that if put too much dirt on them, they’ll “get lost.” I am hoping to do that soon, after the snow we got the other day melts off. (No complaints here...we REALLY needed the moisture!)


5 posted on 02/22/2013 1:59:04 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!



6 posted on 02/22/2013 2:06:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE
Asparagus takes about 3 years to really get established. Mine are doing great up here in N. Texas near the metroplex. I've already got a meal's worth (for one) from mine this year.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/22/2013 2:10:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: South40
Wow! Looking good. Is the cabbage in a planter?

/johnny

11 posted on 02/22/2013 2:13:04 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Sorry for the delays in posting. I have had numerous interuptions from telephone calls, and people at the door.(don’t they know they should hibernate during this winter?)


12 posted on 02/22/2013 2:14:20 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Was in the mid 40’s in N Idaho (still freezing at night).

Snow thru the weekend and back to mid 40’s next week.

A little too early to get starts going for us - even with the wife’s new greenhouse. We have to “wait until the snow is off Mica Peak” before we get too serious....


13 posted on 02/22/2013 2:20:37 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I will plant the clover after the snow melts sometime this week, or next.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 2:27:40 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: South40

Thanks for sharing those great pics. The pictures always help me to feel better and put me in a great mood.


15 posted on 02/22/2013 2:29:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am juggling too many unexpected things today, and a bad case of insomnia kept me up most of the night, so my energy and focus is not conducive to fast action today.


16 posted on 02/22/2013 2:32:24 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE

I am really feeling the same way about the snow. Love the moisture - hate the cold.


17 posted on 02/22/2013 2:33:54 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I just finished assembling a mini greenhouse/starter shelf together.

I gotta remember step A.1 “Check to make sure head is extracted from butt to avoid obstructing vision during assembly.”


18 posted on 02/22/2013 2:34:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: South40

Those look awesome. If it continues warming up here in Arizona, I expect the wife’s vegetables will take off, too.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 2:41:51 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: illiac

The sun just came out, but it’s still just 35 degrees, so we have some melting. When the temps go down this afternoon and evening, it will be slicker than a dogs hind leg.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 2:45:54 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
That's what I did this morning too (transplant peppers). I am particularly pleased with these little sprouts because they where ones I thinned from other plants. I transplanted them into their own containers and they have thrived.

After my nap today, I hope to pot some oriental Iris bulbs.

21 posted on 02/22/2013 2:47:54 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: greeneyes

Zone 6(+) Just put out some onion sets, sowed a few fava beans and kale seeds.
Started lettuces, broccoli and other cold-weather seeds in doors.
Plan on repeating every 2 - 3 weeks.
Last year had frost April 11 and 12 but that’s unusual.

Might try a tomato plant or two this year.
Anyone recommend an easy kind that doesn’t all get ripe at the same time?


22 posted on 02/22/2013 2:52:50 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: fidelis
I'm doing something a little different this year with the peppers and tomatoes. I'm leaving them outside in the sun if the temp is over 40F and being a little bit stingy with the water.

I'm happy with the results (so far). They are much stockier than my usual starts, which sometimes get leggy.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/22/2013 2:55:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How cool! According to the label on my packet I just bought, the rootlets are supposedly 2 years old. Would they still need 3 years once in the ground, or just one year, do you think? (They are Mary Washingtons)


24 posted on 02/22/2013 2:56:25 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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March weather:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/30day/
Slightly warmer than usual in the East.


25 posted on 02/22/2013 2:58:26 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith
You'll want an indeterminate, like Ox Heart, or most of the cherry tomatoes. One thing about indeterminates... they grow and grow and grow. 8ft tomato cages are recommended. ;)

/johnny

26 posted on 02/22/2013 2:58:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL. I always convince Hubby to do that stuff for me. I don’t have the patience or focus to read directions anymore.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 3:00:50 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE
Mine required 3 years in the ground to really start producing. I probably had a dozen meals last year from my little patch. I can already see the difference this year, and it's sorta early for them to be up.

/johnny

28 posted on 02/22/2013 3:00:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
"It's a cold, cloudy day with plenty of snow on the ground. Not much good for gardening, but the kind of day when you want to put a stock pot on the back burner, and turn on the oven to bake bread, casseroles, and/or roasts."

Love the smell of baking bread. They ought to bottle that stuff.

29 posted on 02/22/2013 3:05:50 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: mrsmith

Stupice is a great early tomato and is good for:
cool or fluctuating weather, drought resistant, bears early and continues till frost. Fruits about 2”

Mid season: Arkansas Traveler, Brandywine, or Cherokee Purple.

Late season: Mortgage Lifter and Costoluto Genovese.

Paste: Amish Paste, Roma, or Myona


30 posted on 02/22/2013 3:09:16 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

LOL! Well said. My darlin just told me the weather man has us down for another winter storm in a few days. That’s both the good news AND the bad news! LOL!

I’ve been looking at my catalogs too. Narrowed down my order to something reasonable, and plan to send it off early next week...God willing and the Creeks don’t rise!

(Learned recently that the “Creeks” referred to in that expression actually started out being a reference to the Creek Indian tribes, rather than flooding of small streams!)


31 posted on 02/22/2013 3:11:30 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Sounds like you're on to something there. This is my first year planting pepper's from seed and I'm really enjoying it and getting a good crop.

My co-worker, poor guy, lost all his vegetable plants in big freeze we had a few months ago. If all my pepper plants survive, I might give him some, maybe the pepperonchini's.

32 posted on 02/22/2013 3:11:30 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: South40

Thanks for the amazing pictures!


33 posted on 02/22/2013 3:12:11 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: greeneyes

My seeds have arrived:

Cherokee Purple (OG)-Packet
Vegetables > Tomatoes > Heirloom > Black 1

Brandywine (OG)-Packet
Vegetables > Tomatoes > Heirloom > Pink 1

Costata Romanesco-Packet
Vegetables > Squash > Summer > Zucchini > Striped 1

Nadia (F1)-Packet
Vegetables > Eggplant > Dark Purple/Black 1

Slick Pik® YS 26 (F1)-Packet
Vegetables > Squash > Summer > Yellow 1

Fertil Pots Round 4” dia. x 4” h (OG) - 50 Pots-1 Unit
Tools and Supplies > Seed Starting Supplies > Biodegradable Pots 1

along with trays to hold the little pots. I have one more packet of seeds (cucumber) to be delivered, with these little plants:

Pepper, Hot, Lemon(20249 - 3 Plants) HEIRLOOM. From Ecuador, as hot as any Cayenne, but with a truly unique flavor.

I’m not doing any container planting this year. Everything that sprouts is going directly into the ground at the end of May. Our back yard is south-facing, our house is a light grey, and with the sun bouncing off the house and shielded from the north, the microclimate back there is quite warm and sunny, even though the trees that are outside the fence provide much more shade in the early morning and afternoon than they did when we first moved here. Still, I’m very excited about this new strategy this season.


34 posted on 02/22/2013 3:12:32 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: South40

Beautiful!


35 posted on 02/22/2013 3:13:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

OK. Thanks. That’s good. I’ll set my expectations to the “Patient” gear...and try to remember not to pull it up as a weed! LOL!


36 posted on 02/22/2013 3:15:17 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: greeneyes

Stupice is always the first of my many tomatoes here in Red Hampshire...


37 posted on 02/22/2013 3:16:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: fidelis

Oh yes. Baking Bread and Cookies. The best kitchen aromas ever!


38 posted on 02/22/2013 3:16:43 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: fidelis
I always plant twice what I'm going to need, because sometimes, a cold snap gets you.

I give my extras away or trade them.

I only grow two types of peppers, the New Mexico, and the jalapeno. More conservative cook behavior. Those are the main ones I cook with, those are the ones I grow. Neighbor may bring me some banana pepper plants because she likes those and hates to garden, but she'll have to pay for the plants. ;)

/johnny

39 posted on 02/22/2013 3:18:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TEXOKIE

Well, no matter where it came from way back when - I always heard it used to mean water might flood the road - only thing is we always said “crick” not “creek”. LOL

We still have plenty of people in our rural district who can become housebound for a few days when the low water bridge gets covered by water from the “crick”. LOL.


40 posted on 02/22/2013 3:20:12 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham
much more shade in the early morning and afternoon than they did when we first moved here

I made the mistake of putting a compost pile under an elm in the back yard, and noticed over the last few years that it was shading more and more of my garden.

Duh! I moved the compost pile, and will sacrifice the tree. It shall be ash and wood chips when I'm done, and make restitution to the garden in it's new form. ;)

I found some olive trees that are supposed to grow well in this zone, so I'll put some of those in, along with some fruit trees.

/johnny

41 posted on 02/22/2013 3:22:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: trisham

That’s a good list of crops to grow.

Myself, I am going the opposite. I am going for more containers this year. They will be closer to the house and easier to get from a distance as well as saving the back bending over.

I am thinking about a cover crop for a couple of my beds to renew the soil, and then plant a fall crop and winter crop in those.

I want to reduce what I am doing in July and August to avoid the heat and drought period.


42 posted on 02/22/2013 3:24:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper

Thanks!
Like my gardening simple and easy and cheap... but I’m gonna try tomatoes anyway!


43 posted on 02/22/2013 3:25:18 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: greeneyes

After a non-exhaustive search, it seems the jury is still out on origins of the phrase.

Wickipedia has it as small streams of water flooding, and another site, “ Wicki Answers” has it as the Creek Indians...but that is not final. They both work, and I like the dual imagery!

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lord_willing_and_the_creek_don’t_rise

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_The_Lord_willing_and_the_creeks_don’t_rise_come_from


44 posted on 02/22/2013 2:45:08 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: greeneyes

And here is another which indicates the “Creek don’t rise” originated in the war of 1812.

http://historyiselementary.blogspot.com/2009/10/if-creeks-dont-rise.html


45 posted on 02/22/2013 2:49:45 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: greeneyes

I’m in zone 6b, in the Ohio Valley to be exact, and I’m thinking about planting sweet potatoes in containers. Anybody do this that wants to share info?


46 posted on 02/22/2013 2:50:46 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: mrsmith

Stupice is supposed to be an easy one - in addition to other attributes.


47 posted on 02/22/2013 2:55:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE

So use Creek for the Indians and crick for the water - works for me.LOL.


48 posted on 02/22/2013 2:57:00 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE
I'm devastated...

And here is another which indicates the “Creek don’t rise” originated in the war of 1812.

49 posted on 02/22/2013 3:16:11 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: greeneyes

WOW!!! I was on one of those far left websites when I learned of Free Republic. I said wow because the last thing I was expecting to find here was someone talking about gardening. I need to learn how to post pics here because I garden too!!

That website, whose name I can’t remember because there are many of them, was as you’d expect making fun of Free republic and the people who post here. They were poking fun of an article where a Freeper was writing about dealing with street gangs after the collapse of society.

Like usual that site ‘reproduced’ their own version of the freeper article. They claimed they did that “So that their dear readers would not have to come here and read it themselves” They did provide a link to Free Republic but it was a broken link that did not work. I’m sure that was intentional.

The lefties basically gave me the impression that this place was full of hateful old white men who will soon be dead. They said this place was anti-gay,anti-woman,anti-poor and I don’t need to go further because we have heard it all before.

Even worse than the article was the commenters.

One said that he was a white male teen and that he would be happy when the entire white race died out.

Most made fun of the idea that society might collapse.

Others felt that if society did collapse a few old white men will be easily dealt with. Some felt that taking things from conservatives would be as simple as sticking a gun in their face and telling them to hand it over. They went on to fantasize about old people on their knees begging for their lives.

I posted no replies there myself. I had the feeling that doing so would have given them the excuse to hack me and disrupt my life. People like that are good at shutting down one’s right to free speech. Besides...I’d rather deal with people like that face to face. Give them an education that there are some of us that are full of surprises and won’t do as they want us to do.


50 posted on 02/22/2013 3:16:30 PM PST by thundercloud47 (Enrage a Liberal Defend the Constitution)
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