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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 7 FEBRUARUY 15, 2013
Free Republic | February 15, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 02/15/2013 10:46:41 AM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


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It's a beautiful sunny day and a warm 39 degrees in Missouri. Tonight we'll be down to 22 degrees. Winter wheat makes it look like spring.

Have most of my seeds and plants ordered, received, or stored, but will still be ordering some from the sales catalogs as they come in.

Lemon tree is blooming again, and the fragrance is very nice. I'll be leaving shortly for a meeting, but will be reading and posting later on.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 02/15/2013 10:46:48 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 10:51:09 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve been staying busy working on Mrs. Augie’s new sun room. Progress is slow but steady. I’m grouting the floor tile now. I do need to take a break from that this weekend to prune my orchard trees. Will be happy when warm weather gets here. Winter time makes me grouchy.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 11:05:41 AM PST by Augie
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To: greeneyes
We had a great week up until today. Mostly highs in the 70s and lows in the 40s. Lots of seeds started and doing well in on the sun shelf.

I did have to transplant my first batch of Roma tomatoes into their 16oz containers only 11 days into starting them. I started the second batch when I transplanted.

Usually, I start tomatoes every 2 weeks for 6 weeks, in case I get caught by a late freeze after I set them out, I'll have backups ready.

Kids are supposed to come over this weekend to help me get a couple of truckloads of the free mulch for the garden.

I'm ready for spring to really show up so I can start moving some of this jungle into the ground. ;)

/johnny

4 posted on 02/15/2013 11:06:07 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to your ping list.

Also, a question: What time of year is the best to transplant a well established, medium large huckleberry bush?

The ground is not frozen. The plants are currently dormant, but will leaf out soon. Specifically, is it OK to transplant them now?


5 posted on 02/15/2013 11:07:15 AM PST by EternalHope (Be ready.)
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To: EternalHope
If the ground isn't frozen this is a great time of year to transplant.

Farmers Almanac Planting Guide

6 posted on 02/15/2013 11:11:52 AM PST by Black Agnes
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One other thing. For Texas gardeners, I found this video on YouTube. Bob Webster does a good job of explaining some things. It's more geared to central Texas than North or South, but it's good info.

I wound up making notes during it.

/johnny

7 posted on 02/15/2013 11:12:38 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Good morning all. We had to put down our beautiful Golden Retriever a week ago. We are still mourning.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 11:42:52 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

OK, I live in moderate Maryland. My poor neglected lawn has both bare spots and weeds. When should I put down the pre-emergent weedicide and when should I put down seeds?


9 posted on 02/15/2013 11:56:15 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
So very sorry about your dear pet.

Rainbow Bridge Pet Loss Site

10 posted on 02/15/2013 11:59:13 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We found this place online and plan to check it out in person in the morning. It’s specialty is plant varieties that grow well in the Houston area.

http://www.maasnursery.com/index.html


11 posted on 02/15/2013 12:05:21 PM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Sorry to hear of your loss. They are part of our families, for sure.

We lost one of ours in Oct. '12. He was a close companion each day, the other one is not as personable.

12 posted on 02/15/2013 12:11:45 PM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing
Looks like an interesting place. I'd check out their free seminars. Lots of times, the guys giving them are certified master gardeners.

/johnny

13 posted on 02/15/2013 12:12:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
It is difficult. I had Randy for 15 years, and cried like a little girl when I lost him.

/johnny

14 posted on 02/15/2013 12:13:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Oh My! I feel for your loss! It is such a hard decision and a very emotional thing to do. A faithful friend and companion is hard to loose. I know you will have good and fond memories of your Golden. Be safe.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 12:16:06 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Pre-emerge is exactly what it says - it works by preventing germination - so you don’t want to apply that until your grass seed has been incorporated and is off to a good start.


16 posted on 02/15/2013 12:16:40 PM PST by Augie
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To: greeneyes

Please, add me to the ping list.


17 posted on 02/15/2013 12:41:59 PM PST by doubled ( never in the field of human con tricks has so much been owed by so many to so little effect - Steyn)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to the ping list.


18 posted on 02/15/2013 12:46:44 PM PST by sfimom
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To: JRandomFreeper
Johnny:
Made it to Lowes yesterday. Got two four packs of Roma tomato plants which is 8 plants. (Read about these and they don't grow higher than 4-5 feet and that's good for me.) I assume they are hybrids since it doesn't say non-hybrid or heirloom. All these plants were outside the wire of the main gardening supplies.

As you know, I don't know jack about what I'm doing, so went inside the wire, found a guy who works there, and said “Think small.” Said I wanted bags of potting soil I could carry since I have no man. I got bags of 16 qt size and I can lift them.

Now, two or so years ago, I read about growing a plant using the bag of potting soil for the container. Punch a few holes in the bottom of bag for drainage, then cut the top side away enough to get your plant into the soil and there is the pot (bag) with plant planted.

I expect to hear growls from you guys about growing a plant that way, but I'm doing it anyway to see if it works. I'll put the bag up on a table so I won't have to bend to the ground for a while. I'll start two of the Romas in one bag and pick the better one after they grow some. I have pots for the other tomato plants and will put them on a table for the time being.

Told the man worker I wanted a thingy with little cups in it to start seeds. He took me to those and the only one there will start 70 seeds. That's overkill size but got it. I'll get the tobacco seeds in there by end of today.

I've got a long planter attached to a brick wall at waist high and would like lettuce and onion planted in that. Didn't get plants for that but need to. Question: Do I get lettuce seed and onion seed or buy the plants?

If I can keep these plants off the ground, I won't have to get the graduated water fed thing and that's a fair amount of money saved.

Question: Can I grow garlic? Is that seed or plant?

On the brighter side, I got my PINK Ruger 22LR rifle and it's on my PINK marble top coffee table. May just leave it there as a conversation piece and to send a message to anyone coming to see me. Only friends are allowed in this house. Everyone else gets killed by my Ruger 38 special when they think that pink rifle is all I have.

I have gotten small cases to hold 50 cartridges of the various weapons I have so I can get access to the extra ammo fast. For the rest of the boxes of ammo, I got two ammo cases, about the size of the military ammo cases except these are heavy duty plastic with pictures of ZOMBIES on the front. I also got moisture control packets to put in those boxes. One box has the large rifle and shotgun ammo in it. The other one has the boxes of handgun and LR 22 ammo in it.

See, I'm protecting my plants outside :o) can't get to the small garden unless one first goes through the gun field. :o)

19 posted on 02/15/2013 12:46:48 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I talked to them an hour ago and she said that they have 100 people tomorrow for the sq ft garden class. It was booked up when I first found them a couple of weeks ago.

My wife wants to do the master gardening course, but it is not available in the evenings. The ext office says they have no demand for evening courses due to most of those taking the course being retired.

20 posted on 02/15/2013 12:49:12 PM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: Marcella
For lettuce buy seed, for onions buy slips.

I'm cool with the potting soil bag thing. I've seen it done in professional greenhouses. One thing about tomato transplants... plant them deep. They are one of the few plants you won't kill if you bury most of the plant and leave just a few leaves showing. I've found that they put out roots from what used to be stem. And the healtier the root system, the healthier the plant. I normally transplant them so that only 4 leaves are showing.

I'm growing garlic. I got my bulbs from the kid's extended family. I break them into cloves without damaging the cloves and plant pointy side up about an inch deep.

Some grocery garlic is sprayed with chemicals to keep it from sprouting, so those won't work. If you can find some with green tips in the grocery store, use those. Little late for planting garlic, but it can't hurt to try.

/johnny

21 posted on 02/15/2013 12:55:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

My first Yorkie died when she was 17 yrs. old. It’s still too sad to think about often. I got a pet casket and she is in my garden with a marble stone marker with her name.

I now have Yorkie, Prissy, and she is my best friend and 5 lb. watch dog.


22 posted on 02/15/2013 12:56:13 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: rightly_dividing
There are lots of retired folks taking those courses. Too bad they don't offer an evening course, though, or an online course.

/johnny

23 posted on 02/15/2013 1:01:10 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sorry to hear about your loss. Pets are such dear friends. We lost our dear ragdoll kitty, Reina, about 6 years ago. I still feel a little teary if I think about it too much.


24 posted on 02/15/2013 1:14:30 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: greeneyes
Greetings from Florida and the end of week #1 of the hay bale gardening experiment.

The bales have been watered daily. They're nice and hot on the inside, doing what they're supposed to do.

I went out this morning and pulled open the top of a bale, ready to plunge my hand in, only to be greeted by squirming maggots! YUK!

None of the straw or hay bale gardening sites mention maggots, so I've sprinkled each bale with food grade DE. It kills fleas, maybe it will destroy maggots too.


25 posted on 02/15/2013 1:23:04 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Is it bermuda? There is a problem with that in Florida, I've heard. Google 'maggots in hay', and you get an article from the U of F Extension folks.

/johnny

26 posted on 02/15/2013 1:38:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
Finished putting up a portable greenhouse for the wife's vegetable garden last week. The plants seem to like it just fine. It's not as warm here as I was hoping it would be by now (H74--L45) but it's getting there. My freesia is still going gangbusters. The first sprout is about 6-7 inched high and I have 6 sprouts (out of the 12 I planted) starting to poke their heads out.

I've been outside cleaning up some potting soil all morning. I think I'll re-pot my snapdragons today and maybe plant the dahlia and other bulbs my wife just surprised me with. Speaking of the wife: for Valentines Day I got her live plants, an orchid and some tulips.

27 posted on 02/15/2013 1:41:55 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: fidelis
Speak about the portable greenhouse. Purchased or homebuilt? I'm seriously thinking about building something this year for next fall/winter.

/johnny

28 posted on 02/15/2013 1:44:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Augie

Progress on green house sounds like it is on track. Ditto - cold and overcast weather makes me grouchy.


29 posted on 02/15/2013 1:48:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Eww, maggots! My wife would have freaked—and I don’t I would have an entirely calm reaction either!


30 posted on 02/15/2013 1:49:04 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sounds like your pre planting season is going well. I too am so ready for warmer weather. Cold weather makes my bones ache.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 1:51:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: EternalHope

Will add you to the ping list. I post every Friday afternoon.

I am not familiar with Huckle berry. If you could let us know what zone you are located in, someone may be able to give you some advice about transplanting it.


32 posted on 02/15/2013 1:54:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks for the link. I am sure many of the gardeners will find it useful.


33 posted on 02/15/2013 1:55:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The greenhouse was homebuilt. It’s very small—70X70, just big enough to slip over the square-foot garden and for my wife to move around inside. We just framed PVC pipe together, covered it in plastic sheeting, and slipped it over some rebar at each corner of the garden. The roof is securely fastened with PVC snaps, but the side panels are fastened with velcro for easy removal. We can easily slip it on and off, and adapt it as a shade when the summer months come.


34 posted on 02/15/2013 1:55:38 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: greeneyes
It's cool enough here today that I skipped my daily bike ride. To offset that, I boned out a duck and roasted the bones and am now making stock. The house is nice and warm from that, and it smells wonderful.

Duck is on the menu tomorrow or Sunday.

/johnny

35 posted on 02/15/2013 1:56:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sorry for your loss. Will pray for you. Pet’s are special members of our family too.


36 posted on 02/15/2013 1:56:48 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sfimom; doubled

Will add you to the ping list. I post on Friday afternoons.


37 posted on 02/15/2013 1:59:35 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: fidelis
Thank you. I've been considering a lot of ideas and didn't want to buy a commercial one because of the prices. You've given me some ideas. What size PVC? 1/2 or 3/4?

/johnny

38 posted on 02/15/2013 2:00:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
Now, two or so years ago, I read about growing a plant using the bag of potting soil for the container. Punch a few holes in the bottom of bag for drainage, then cut the top side away enough to get your plant into the soil and there is the pot (bag) with plant planted.

You mean like this:

I don't know about your climate, but I tried to grow plants in the 5 gallon buckets ( a similar technique)and the heat in central Texas caused them to go dormant. The plants grew, but wouldn't produce.

On the brighter side, I got my PINK Ruger 22LR rifle~

Pink? That's just so wrong. ;)

39 posted on 02/15/2013 2:03:59 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

3/4 PVC.


40 posted on 02/15/2013 2:05:09 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Don’t mourn. Remember the happy times you had with your companion.


41 posted on 02/15/2013 2:05:49 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: greeneyes

Every year I do my seed-starting thing in mid-January with specialty tomatoes and peppers.... and every year I lose many of the pepper plants and most of the tomato plants to damping off, no matter what gyrations I go through to ward it off. Sterilizing the mix, hydrogen peroxide in the water spray, etc. Nothing seems to be foolproof. Does anyone here have any sure-fire solution to eliminate the damping off problem?

Thanks.


42 posted on 02/15/2013 2:07:23 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: greeneyes

It’s about time to go nuts...pepper seedlings, both sweet and ‘death hot’ (my Bhut Jolokia Peach is a beauty already), are doing well. Flats of Iditarod Red dwarf tomatoes all looking good, broccoli, cauliflower, herbs all chugging. Tomato flats are just about prepped...somewhere north of two hundred varieties to be tried out this year before we start cutting back...seeds everywhere. Roughly another 30 or 40 varieties due over the next few weeks.


43 posted on 02/15/2013 2:09:47 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes

Apple trees are blossoming, and the peach trees may follow suit in the next few days. I hope we aren’t hit with a freeze in March though.


44 posted on 02/15/2013 2:11:11 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Augie

Thank you. I’d better get stepping with the grass seed, then.


45 posted on 02/15/2013 2:11:49 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: Sarajevo

Thanks for posting this pic! Maybe I’ll be successful with tomatoes with this method...nothing else seems to work :(


46 posted on 02/15/2013 2:13:35 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: XenaLee
The video link I posted up-thread covers tomato problems in great detail.

/johnny

47 posted on 02/15/2013 2:14:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sorry for your loss. I know only too well about mourning for a lost baby. Lost my feline companion of 15 years in December of 2009 due to VAS. Still haven’t gotten over it.


48 posted on 02/15/2013 2:19:28 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Chileheads unite! LOL

I’m actually planting habs this year. Not for myself, mind you (too hot for moi)...but for my neighbor who loves the hottest peppers on earth.


49 posted on 02/15/2013 2:21:24 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Marcella

Now, two or so years ago, I read about growing a plant using the bag of potting soil for the container. Punch a few holes in the bottom of bag for drainage, then cut the top side away enough to get your plant into the soil and there is the pot (bag) with plant planted.

I expect to hear growls from you guys about growing a plant that way, but I’m doing it anyway to see if it works
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I read about this too. I think it’s an excellent suggestion. I am planning on using a couple of bags of mushroom compost to grow lettuce in this year.

Lettuce is usually planted as seeds.

Onions sets are often used for slicing onions.

I often plant the garlic I have left from the supermarket. Just seperate the cloves and plant in the fall for early summer harvest. When you order garlic from catalogs, they send you the garlic bulb which you seperate into cloves for planting.


50 posted on 02/15/2013 2:21:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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