Skip to comments.USFA ZiP .22 Review
Posted on 01/20/2013 5:26:35 AM PST by Jed Eckert
I first saw the USFA ZiP .22 on USFAs website and it immediately caught my attention. Why? Well, for starters it is uniquevery unique. It captures the imagination, finding something truly new in firearms development is a bit of a rarity. John Browning and Paul Mauser can still say that most firearms are mere modifications of designs they pioneered 100 years ago. So on that merit alone, I wanted to check out this pistol.
Secondly, being mainly polymer and uber-lightweight, this gun fills a niche for the survival crowd. It would fit easily in a backpack, truck or tackle box, and could be carried as an emergency survival gun without any undue weight.
Finally, it is versatile. It takes Ruger 10/22 magazines (I mean, who already doesnt own a 10/22 and a plethora of mags?), and with the Ruger 25-round mags, it makes this pistol one of the few handguns on the market with a 25-round capability. In light of the recent fervor coming from the gun-grabbers in Washington, owning multiple guns that take the same high-cap mags might not be such a bad idea. This gun can also be converted into a rifle, and can be used in conjunction with other firearms with a standard 1913 Railall NFA rules do apply, of course.
So I literally begged Douglas Donnelly, USFA CEO and inventor of ZiP, for a test sample before the masses could get their hands on it at SHOT Show. He came through, so here is my brief review.
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For if I ever go to a skeeter shoot.
Ok, pick the round you want in an emergency.
Make it full-auto and they’ll have something.
Can’t see this 22 in the field. The Marines switched back to the 45acp. Try and take down a raghead high on pot with a 22LR.
Looks like the MSRP is $199.00
If I think of it as an updated version of the Henry “Survivor” .22, then it makes sense. Sort of a “better than nothing” weapon to keep in the backpack/BOB. They are relatively cheap too ... just over $200 with a 10/22 25 round mag.
It’s rediculous. I want one.
I don’t see this a self defense gun by any stretch. Looks to be more useful for stuffing in a backpack or as a survival gun where weight is a factor. If it’s reliable and accurate it would probably be as good a choice as the old Armalite AR-7 (now made by Henry Firearms).
looks like a 22 blowback pistol with a lot of plastic wrapped around it.
Not sure what the advantage of this thing is. It weighs twice as much as the Kel-Tec P-32 and isn’t that small.
I’m gonna call it “The Conundrum Gun”.
Can’t figure out which way you hold it.... /S
I want one.
We have been suffering with the infringements of NFA for far too long. Suppressors are mainstream now and cost a bundle to save ears, among other things.
The farther we travel from 1986 and the impact of the govt picking winners and losers in the machine gun game, the higher the prices of machine guns will go and the fewer manufacturers there will be.
Not to mention the now yearly reduction in the severely limited number of available machine guns for public purchase. Or to put it better, we the people are now outgunned in small arms, by the mere passage of time and those the second amendment seeks to protect us from, grow ever stronger in relation.
Can this thing be 3D printed? Just thinking but, you buy the metal parts and print up the frame, a do-it-yourself “freedom gun”.
Butt ugly, but it does the job.
Don’t know about the ergonomy, but it’s kinda reminiscent of what the FN P90 was meant to be (the original design had a 100rd throwavay box mag w caseless rounds), and the p90, I’m told, is pretty good.
Kel-Tec P-32: MSRP- $ 318.00, 6 round mag + 1
The ZiP.22 L.R. :MSRP- $199.99 10 or 25 round mag + 1
And of course the rimfire ammo is much less expensive than the centerfire .32 ammo of the Kel-Tec. The Kel-Tec does win on weight though, 6.6 oz vs 15.5 oz
The Intratec TEC-22 was a great concept but reliability sucked. If this latest incarnation based around the 10/22 Ruger magazine proves reliable and accurate I predict it will fly off the shelves.
Maybe your TEC-22 is defective. The one my shooting buddy has works PERFECTLY and we shoot it all the time. We haven’t tried the new BX-25 magazines in it yet but if the old RamLine mags function so well there’s no need to assume that the higher quality BX-25 wouldn’t work perfectly too. I predict they’ll be out of business within a year IF they ever even ship ANY in the first place. Time will tell.
Takes .22 mag and holds 30 rounds. I want one.
Well I suppose you wouldn't approve of my new postol caliber carbine then:
Either will do just fine.
I suspect the TEC-22s had a quality control issue. (Dies or molds wearing out in manufacturing process.) In most cases the fussy ones could be tweaked to function reliably with a given brand of mag. The typical problem was the mag would be loose in the receiver and cause feeding issues. Same problem when Armalite quit making the AR-7 and Charter Arms started making it. Many of the Charter Arms version had feeding problems due to sloppy tolerances.
Ah yes. The almost mythical PMR-30. They seem to vanish from the dealer's shelves as fast they come in and at $400.00 plus no less. It's on my wish list too along with Kel-Tec's RFB Bullpup Rifle.
Probably. But I think for the home builder or 'guerrilla gunsmith', casting is still more feasible at this time.
Actually, Staples is starting to offer a 3d print service.
The thing that really worries me about this design are the two plungers over the barrel. Especially the re-strike plunger. I’m not so sure I want to put my hand that close to the end of the barrel after a rimfire round has decided not to go bang.
It may “only” be a .22, but I’m pretty sure it will take the tip of my finger clean off if I accidentally cover the muzzle when the round decides to fire.
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