[Obadiah]

A short barreled bull pup? Why? They only thinking CQB and no open desert combat? This doesn’t make sense.

[elcid1970]

I’ll keep my AK lookin’ Galil Golani, thank you.

[Pharmboy]

Yep...more of a carbine than a rifle. Good for building to building fighting, but, as you say, not the best option for traditional warfare, e.g., Afghanistan, which could be part of what the IDF might face in terrain type.

What do you say, thefactor?

[Durus]

That could be a 16” barrel shown. One of the advantages of a bull pup is a more balanced rifle with a long barrel but a shorter overall length.

[ontap]

Not so... the design enables the barrel to remain the same length while shortening the overall length of the rifle. not the placement of the magazine!!!

[for-q-clinton]

Maybe it’s me, but look where the chamber is on the side. It’s really close to the stuck, so the barrel appears almost the same as the M-16.

And based on the “stock” it appears as if it some how disperses the recoil in multiple directions so that it doesn’t hurt your shoulder.

Just my guess though.

[ontap]

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[PapaBear3625]

The Israeli army also has 7.62NATO rifles and sniper rifles.

I think the attitude is, if the guy is past 300 yards, let the sniper/marksman or mortar crew deal with him.

[AnalogReigns]

Evidently the Tavor bull pup comes in short AND long barreled versions. (See the Indian Tavors above). In a bull pup design, the barrel goes nearly the full length of the shoulder stock anyway—so even the shortest ones have a 16” barrel.

Also the Israelis still use conventional Galli sniper-rifles for long range...

[archy]

A short barreled bull pup? Why? They only thinking CQB and no open desert combat? This doesn’t make sense.

Three reasons.

1: most Israeli troops move in Nagmashot and Nakpadon Armored Personnel Carriers/Infantry Fighting Vehicles, rather than lesser vehicles more vulnerable to mines/IEDs and wire-guided antitank guided missiles. Room is tight inside the Centurion tank-based APCs, as it is in the back of an older M113/Zelda APC or a Merkava or helicopter.

2: Much of the IDF's serious and personal work is done up close and at night. The Tavor offers the opportunity for barrel change and interesting novelties on the muzzle end without excessively compromising performance. Electrooptical night sights are also a factor, adding weight that can be partially compensated for with a shorter and lighter barrel.

3: The M16 family weapons became common due to their being provided as US military FMAP equipment programs, their cost being about a third of a Israeli-built Galil or Glilon. There's not likely to be much more of that after the Israelis nuke Iran. And if they don't nuke Iran, it won't matter what kind of rifles the IDF has.