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3 days of Rioting and Looting across Argentina
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ ^ | 12/21/12 | Ferfal

Posted on 12/21/2012 8:33:35 PM PST by Kartographer

Looting leaves 2 dead in Argentina-link to article Its not as if some looting surprises anyone in Argentina anymore. Its pretty much a fact of life for Argentines. But it has been three days now of widespread looting across the country, from Buenos Aires and its suburbs, to smaller provinces as far as Bariloche where incidents first started.

As always supermarkets, gas stations and smaller stores are favorite targets by looters and there’s also been reports of assaults and robberies as well. Two people have been killed in Rosario during the lootings and the government is deploying military personal across the country so as to protect supermarkets and avoid the “contagion” effect. This could be described as the perception that the authorities have lost control of the streets and everyone feels it’s a “free for all” time when looting can go unpunished. Unfortunately that observation isn’t far from the truth.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; argentina; banglist; preparedness; preppers; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: Revolting cat!
I’m hungry, I think I need to go get me a flat screen TV.

When the flat screen banditos are creating the diversion I'll be at the supermarket buying canned goods with cash or junk silver if credit cards and checks don't work.

41 posted on 12/22/2012 6:19:35 AM PST by immadashell
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To: Kartographer; flaglady47; mickie; seenenuf; seekthetruth; hoosiermama; Chigirl 26; oswegodeee
AR-GEN-TEENA !

You''ll find your life will begin
The very moment you're in Argentina
If you're a looter senor
Then you will surely adore Argentina

I'll bet an old castanet that you will never forget Argentina
Where there are TVs and laptops to tickle your spine
Groceries and 1Phones and bottles of wine
All for the taking down Argentine way

Leni

42 posted on 12/22/2012 6:39:03 AM PST by MinuteGal (I'm Going to Update the Name That No One Dares to Utter and I'll Use It From Now On......OBAMUNISM !)
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To: Patriot Babe
What is your on your own, live in an apartment and is living paycheck to paycheck? Are there any ideals how to prepare? How can I stock up when again I’m living paycheck to paycheck?



You can save a lot of money off your grocery bill by watching sites like these for sales and using coupons and putting aside a couple of items each week
Southern Savers
http://www.southernsavers.com/


I Heart Publix
http://iheartpublix.com/


I heart Kroger
http://www.iheartkroger.com/


I've been doing this for so long that I rarely ever come close to spending what I budget for groceries each month. I have on hand at all times almost 6 months to a years worth of stuff my family uses on a regular basis and I give tons of stuff away to family members and the local church food bank.

The freezer at my mother in laws house if full of Jimmy Dean breakfast bowls I got free at Walmart (rollback for 2.00 and there was a 2.00 coupon for them ) ,Frozen Fish that were free (buy one get one sale at Publix and coupons made them free , Smithfield Pork chops bought for pennies a pack at Sweetbay supermarket (there was a 2.00 off any Smithfield fresh pork coupon and I picked up small packages that started at 2.02 to about 2.50 a pack and the store took Winn Dixie 5.00 off when you spend 30.00 as competitor so most of the meat ended up just costing a couple of pennies ) , margarine sale 1.50 Publix and free after Publix and manufactures coupons , frozen vegtables free after sale and coupons - In laws freezer is full of this stuff because there was no room in mine lol

This week at Publix alone I got
20 cans of Campbells Cream of Chicken soup free after buy one get one sale and both Publix and manufactures coupons
40 packages of Knorr Pasta sides at Publix for .60 after buy one get one free sale ,Publix and manufactures coupons. That's not .60 each ,that is .60 for 40 packages .


4 jars of Kraft Mayo for less than a dollar total - Buy one get one sale and 2.00 off coupons that were printable on the internet (two of these will go to the food bank as I can't use before expiration date). Pasta sauce for.50 a jar after sale and coupon

There is hardly a week that goes by that I don't come home with something I get for free or pennies . I take tons of stuff I can't /won't use to the churches food pantry

Oh I garden to too and have chickens (won't help you much in an apartment ) .

I hardly ever buy papers for the coupons too as I get the leftovers for free .Some weeks I only get a couple of papers and then there are weeks I get 20-30 papers .

We do not have double coupons in my area , if we did my food bank would have to worry about where to store things lol.

Seriously even if you don't want to be bothered to use coupons hardcore you can still save a lot by going to these sites or similar sites for your area and just planning your purchases by what is on sale for the week and printing out the online coupons they suggest for the order .


43 posted on 12/22/2012 7:14:18 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: JohnnyP

I thought she was living in an apartment. If not, then yes, I agree.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 7:27:48 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Fireone

I’ve not had that problem with the mice or rats here over the past 3-4 years of prepping, but it’s good to know about, and your point is well taken. Thanks.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 7:33:02 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Patriot Babe

You have a small space. Put your storage food under the beds, lots of room there.


46 posted on 12/22/2012 7:58:12 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: GeronL
they are looting the luxuries they may never see again

With hussein biting at the bit to ban guns, isn't it amazing that those evil gun grabbing conservative preppers are patiently waiting in long lines at the gun shops instead of rioting and having shootouts in aisle three. You know the msm is crying in their sushi they can't print those headlines.

47 posted on 12/22/2012 8:41:22 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Patriot Babe; Kartographer

Babe, Freepmail me if you want to talk about medical training. I agree with Kart that having that training makes you a valuable asset if TSHTF.

Having that knowledge can save yourself and others: I’ve told about this situation before: When Hurricane Ike came through, the regional hospital here lost power with the rest of us and THEIR GENERATOR DID NOT COME ON. Critical patients had to be taken to San Antonio, a five hour trip. If something happened to you during the 5 days without power, you were not going to get medical care.

Plus, cell phones and walk around house phones did not work. You couldn’t call 911 if you or someone in your family needed care. Ambulances were not going anywhere since no one could call 911. The only exception to that was if a person had an old type phone that plugged directly into the wall. In that case you could phone someone in the area that also had that type phone or you could call outside the hurricane area.

The bottom line, is, when power goes out, you can’t depend on ANYTHING working - not even your hospital.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 8:46:03 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Patriot Babe

Take a look at your budget as well. Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Going to a feature (dumb) phone will save you about $30 per month. Do you have cable TV with all the bells and whistles? Going to basic cable can save you some $$$ as well.

Please don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to preach. Just ask yourself a question with regards to your finances. What is more important to me?

If you choose to spend on item “A” rather than on preps, then item “A” is more important to you than survival.

As an aside, you can store quite a bit of your preps under your bed(s).


49 posted on 12/22/2012 9:16:06 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Obadiah
I believe many can now see the dark clouds approaching.

A few, but still not many. Just yesterday, on a board I sometimes visit just to remind myself how the other side thinks, I got ticked at their "oh, I'll rather just die than stock my pantry" and their "oh, anyone who owns a gun is scary" and "I'll just move in with a crazy prepper if anything happens." They can't recognize an economic collapse could be their own personal job lose and they'd be without during a snow storm. None of them listened. They never do. They laugh at zombies when they are the zombies. The best lesson I've learned from Katrina and Sandy is that the zombies won't have the sense to get out of the cities so they won't be an immediate concern.

50 posted on 12/22/2012 9:18:05 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Marcella
if a person had an old type phone that plugged directly into the wall. In that case you could phone someone in the area that also had that type phone or you could call outside the hurricane area.

That is the reason I still write out a monthly check to the landline phone company. It's not for fun and convenience but insurance that we've needed at least twice a year.

51 posted on 12/22/2012 9:40:45 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

“That is the reason I still write out a monthly check to the landline phone company. It’s not for fun and convenience but insurance that we’ve needed at least twice a year.”

After Ike came through, I had no power but my phone worked and my son in London was able to call me to see how I was and a friend in the Texas hill country also called to see if I was okay.

I had no power but I had a TV that worked, a phone that worked, a radio that worked and I could hear Houston TV channels over that radio, lights that worked and fans that worked, and a way to cook hot meals inside my house and outside my house. I was fine.


52 posted on 12/22/2012 9:58:14 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Sergio; Patriot Babe
you can store quite a bit of your preps under your bed(s).

Under the bed, behind and under the couch and under the livingroom chair. Depending on your coffee table and end tables, there can be storage under and inside them. Think multi-purpose when you're in the market for furniture such as an interesting old trunk can be used as a coffee table and provide storage. If the door to the bedroom opens 90 degrees against a wall then there is room to put 6" shelves from floor to ceiling behind the door for smaller how-to books, canned goods, water, canisters, etc.

When on a budget, think second hand instead of buying new. Browse through thrift stores and yard sales. If a friend is throwing out something that you could use in prepping don't be hesitant to ask for it. Knowledge is power so as others have said, learn some new skills. Most knowledge and skills are free. If there's a free how-to at the hardware store then go. If the nursing home is having a quilting bee, take a plate of homemade cookies and sit in with them. Look up your county home extension office in the government pages of your phone book or online because they sometimes give free demonstrations for home canning, etc. and they'll have free info packets and are there to answer your questions. The library has meetings and lectures that are free to the public. Make the library and youtube your best friends for how-to books and videos. If your neighbor is doing a home repair, go over and ask to help so you will learn how to repair your own house.

53 posted on 12/22/2012 10:22:03 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Obadiah

I think so. Argentina will have to kow their population like Venezuela has pretty much done.

In this country, it won’t be pretty when the welfare checks starts shrinking because there is nothing left to loot.


54 posted on 12/22/2012 2:25:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: greeneyes

stay safe!


55 posted on 12/22/2012 2:27:45 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Patriot Babe

One of the best ways to prepare is to purchase things that save money while making you healthier.

For example,you can buy a grain mill and some grain from www.waltonfeed.com

Then you can make your own multigrain flour for a fraction of what they charge in the store. If you are lazy, like me, you put the ingredients in the bread machine and...Voila! Healthy, cheap, very tasty bread, the staff of life.

By eating low on the food chain with complex carbs such as homemade bread, organic rice, beans, lentils, etc. you save hundreds of dollars per year on your food budget.

As you save, prep better by buying in bulk. Walton packages foods that last over 20 years if you don’t open them. A small closet can hold enough to keep a family going for a year at a cost under $1000. IMHO, much better than freeze dried food.

As for some of the other preps, start with a .22 rifle or 12 gauge shotgun from a pawnshop. Right now the prices are fairly low since everybody is putting their money into pistols and ARs.


56 posted on 12/22/2012 3:37:47 PM PST by darth
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To: greeneyes
By the way, did I ever tell you that I scared off a would be burgler? All I did was scream at him. “Who are you and what the h*ll do you think you’re doing in MY house”? It was too dark to see his face, but he turned around and jumped out of the door and ran off down the hill. Cops wouldn’t even come out to talk to us or anything.

Good job! Now you know you can scare them off w/o the cops, useless as they were for you.

My neighbor scared some off by yelling "Jim, Jim, get the gun!". They couldn't leave fast enough. "Jim" wasn't home, nor did he have a gun. She's a pretty quick thinker.
57 posted on 12/22/2012 7:32:27 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Patriot Babe
How can I stock up when again I’m living paycheck to paycheck?

That's a great question. And you've already been given some great advice. So I'll just add that stocking up for long-term storage isn't necessarily expensive. You don't need to buy MREs or freeze dried food, which is rather pricey per ounce. A case of Top Ramen is a good start. Dried rice and beans will last a long, long time in your pantry (or under the bed) if kept dry and somewhat cool. You don't even need to invest in mylar or oxygen absorbers if you'll eat them in the next 3 or so years. And they are pretty cheap per pound, while providing a lot of calories and creates protein if eaten together so you wouldn't need meat.

Just a little at a time is a good way to start.
58 posted on 12/22/2012 7:37:29 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Patriot Babe
the other thing too....is make friends of people that could be of help to you, or you to them.....

a guy my husband did some business for allowed him to hunt elk on his property, we gave him football tickets and the other day, he had my husband bring coolers and just GAVE for free 135pounds of fresh ground beef, already wrapped, from his farm.....

my policy..be generous when you can, helpful, and you never know when someone will be paying you back in a nice way....

59 posted on 12/22/2012 8:43:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: GeronL

I try. We don’t usually have any problems around here, but we have several new neighbors of unknown quality.


60 posted on 12/23/2012 9:35:13 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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