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James Meredith: What I've Learned (Since being the first black at Ole Miss)
Esquire.com ^ | December 21, 2012, | By Cal Fussman

Posted on 12/21/2012 4:10:18 PM PST by WKB

What I did at Ole Miss had nothing to do with going to classes. My objective was to destroy the system of white supremacy.

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1 posted on 12/21/2012 4:10:22 PM PST by WKB
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To: duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; wardaddy; KLT; ...

Mississippi Ping


2 posted on 12/21/2012 4:12:01 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: WKB
Funny he doesn't look like a Choctaw


3 posted on 12/21/2012 4:16:43 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: WKB

Would I be out of line to suspect that he’s been on SSDI since he was 28 due to a tragic back injury suffered in a slip and fall accident at a nearby Macy’s?


4 posted on 12/21/2012 4:21:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: WKB

Like most radicals, it’s impossible to know what he’s trying to say.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 4:22:19 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: WKB

Its like Democrats. There is NEVER enough that whites can do to. Spending, apologies, litigation, affirmative action, a black Presidents, black AttGen, etc. They want EVERYTHING!


6 posted on 12/21/2012 4:25:19 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: WKB
Mr. Meredith faced a a system of white supremacy.

The man's an American hero.

7 posted on 12/21/2012 4:32:40 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: WKB
Funny he doesn't look like a Choctaw

You'd be surprised at how few Choctaws (and Chickasaws, who are first cousins of the Choctaws) look Indian.

8 posted on 12/21/2012 4:35:54 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Scoutmaster
The man's an American hero.

Bingo.

9 posted on 12/21/2012 4:37:23 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Amberdawn

“Like most radicals”

It was not radical to want to destroy white supremacy.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 4:39:37 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Gay State Conservative
Yes, you would.

At 28, he was enrolled in Jackson State University.

He was a vet, having served in the USAF from 1951-1960.

If he had a back injury, it could be because he was shot by Aubrey James Norvell in 1966, during the March Against Fear.

Or, he may have tripped during his work as an active Republican, or his campaign as the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate from Mississippi, or while serving as a WDC aide to Jesse Helms.

11 posted on 12/21/2012 4:40:09 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: WKB
Funny he doesn't look like a Choctaw

Does he look 1/16th Choctaw?

12 posted on 12/21/2012 4:44:46 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Enough to run for the Senate in Massachusetts, but he’s too smart for the job.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 4:49:42 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: newheart

“You’d be surprised at how few Choctaws...look Indian.”

My wife’s side of the family are card-carrying members of the Choctaw nation, but you would never know it by looking at them. Yet, the documentation shows that her great, great grandfather marched on the Trail of Tears.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 4:50:52 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: WKB
It is difficult today to believe the level of rioting and violence directed at a single black veteran trying to enroll at the University of Mississippi in 1962. A longtime Republican, Meredith later worked on Sen. Jesse Helms' staff.


James Meredith after being shot in the back in 1966

15 posted on 12/21/2012 4:53:05 PM PST by iowamark
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To: OKRA2012

I said that his writing/speeches were unintelligible, like most of the college educated. The ‘radical’ moniker can be given to anyone far different from the herd.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 4:54:08 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: iowamark
Thanks for the photo. Jack Thornell won the Pulitzer Price for Photography for that photo.

Mr. Meredith was shot by a coward (err, sniper). Other marchers, journalists, and photographers scrambled for cover, leaving Mr. Meredith to pull himself to cover.

By the way, did you know that Mr. Meredith once said that liberal whites were the 'greatest enemy' of American blacks?

17 posted on 12/21/2012 5:11:04 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
"By the way, did you know that Mr. Meredith once said that liberal whites were the 'greatest enemy' of American blacks?"

And he was right. Too bad some folks here don't realize that Meredith is a strident Conservative.

18 posted on 12/21/2012 5:19:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Amberdawn
Like most radicals, it’s impossible to know what he’s trying to say.

It's easy to know and understand what the most powerful radical of them all is saying. From supplying US weapons to Al Qaeda in Libya and Syria to supplying submarines to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, Obama has been perfectly clear who he is supporting. He is in support of world domination by Islam. Obama has never said that but it's perfectly obvious that is what he is doing.

It is obvious, isn't it?

19 posted on 12/21/2012 6:37:18 PM PST by politicianslie (Most Americans can't even recognize massive election fraud. Our first Muslim President laughs at you)
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To: Amberdawn

From the article “ they didn’t know I knew what I knew”. Huh? I heard him give speech once. I was not sure what he was saying - kind of elliptical. That being said I did get to be the presence of a consequential figure in American history.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 6:39:47 PM PST by bunnie911
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Ole Miss kicked my butt and they're still celebrating. Because every black that's gone there since me has been insulted, humiliated, and they can't even tell their story. Everybody has to tell James Meredith's story — which is a lie. The powers that be in Mississippi understand this very clearly. See, I've been telling them for fifty years how insulting it is to me to suggest that I had to be courageous to confront some ignorant white folks. And recently, they told me they really understand, but they're gonna keep doing it. I can't figure a way to make 'em stop. They're gonna keep on doin' it because it makes it impossible for the blacks there now to say anything about what's happened to them. Because the comparison is with the idol.

These sentiments may be conservative. I'm not really sure.

What I am clear on is that they're incoherent.

Has every black that's gone to Ole Miss in the last 60 years really be insulted and degraded?

21 posted on 12/21/2012 6:41:43 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t think Michael Oher falls into that category
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Oher


22 posted on 12/21/2012 6:51:17 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: Sherman Logan
Has every black that's gone to Ole Miss in the last 60 years really be insulted and degraded?

Sounds like they might have had to "confront some ignorant white folks". It's possible they'd be insulted to have it suggested that took any particular courage, so they may not be all that concerned with not getting to "tell their story" about it.

23 posted on 12/21/2012 6:55:42 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t know if Mississippi has white racists insulting Blacks on campus. I doubt that. Lawsuits.

I know that every college campus has a whole new doctrine of race hate - diversity - insulting and dehumanizing the white race. I know white children are being racially attacked by diversity racists and no one cares just like they did not care when James Meredith was in school.

Racism is alive and well thanks to liberals.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 7:00:12 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sherman Logan
What I am clear on is that they're incoherent.

Ping to discuss later.

25 posted on 12/21/2012 7:08:50 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: WKB

I suspect you’re right. I certainly wouldn’t want to try harassing him.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 7:09:04 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: SaraJohnson

Somebody post the Sports Illustrated magazine cover from September 1962, just for giggles.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 7:25:42 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: SaraJohnson
no one cares just like they did not care when James Meredith was in school

Didn't care?

There's an entire book about what Meredith had to endure from fellow students and others while he 'was in school' at Ole Miss.

28 posted on 12/21/2012 7:33:14 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: elcid1970

29 posted on 12/21/2012 7:42:55 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: politicianslie

I should have said written then, as in how this article was written, which presumably, was based on what he SAID. Meredith, that is.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 8:04:42 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: bunnie911

Elliptical is a good word for it. I would think the college educated could write and speak a clear sentence.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 8:06:22 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Scoutmaster

If people had cared about racial hate and violence, the haters would have been shut down and James would have been safe.

In that way, people did not care about racial violence back then and they don’t care about the Left’s new and improved racial hatred and violence against whites now.

It’s a huge disappointment to me. That we still have people in power stoking race meaning, division, hatred and it’s ensuing violence, breaks my heart. I despise racism in all it’s configurations and rationalizations. We must “progress” to love one another and reject skin deep meaning and divisions as a basis of power in this country.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 8:25:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Scoutmaster
He was a vet, having served in the USAF from 1951-1960.

That he was a serving veteran and active supporter of Republican ideals is a very comforting thought. Thanks.

33 posted on 12/21/2012 8:58:17 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: Amberdawn
I should have said written then, as in how this article was written, which presumably, was based on what he SAID. Meredith, that is.

Then don't read this article. Read several of the many other books and articles over the years

Read about the battle between on how Ole Miss intended to (incorrectly) display Meredith's story to its benefit, without consulting Meredith, or while ignoring Meredith's comments.. Read on how Ole Miss has treated Meredith.

34 posted on 12/21/2012 9:17:49 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster

Yeah, WHATever.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 9:49:03 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: SaraJohnson
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well." Booker T Washington

The above quote applies to a lot of race baiting white liberals today also.

36 posted on 12/22/2012 12:24:15 AM PST by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Amberdawn
He doesn't say anything... satan speaks through him. Ever notice how nancy pelosi and harry reid speak the most heinous and evil remarks ever heard from the floor of either chamber? There is a reason for that. All of their talking points are faxed in from 666.

LLS

37 posted on 12/22/2012 4:49:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: OKRA2012
No it wasn't. I live in Mississippi and I was the first generation to integrate. We never had any problems in our school system. This guy has turned into an America hating radical since those days. When you are coddled and praised by the left... then that evil just infects one through osmosis. 99.9% of the racism in Mississippi today resides in the black community in the Delta region. That is also where stolen elections and dimrat corruption is rampant. THAT is not a coinkydinky.

LLS

38 posted on 12/22/2012 4:52:45 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: SaraJohnson

BINGO!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

LLS


39 posted on 12/22/2012 4:56:01 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I live in Mississippi and I was the first generation to integrate. We never had any problems in our school system.

It took Mississippi sixteen years and two U.S. Supreme Court rulings to desegregate its public school systems.

40 posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:20 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
And he was right. Too bad some folks here don't realize that Meredith is a strident Conservative.

My guess is that some people also don't know that Meredith also organized a Black Man's March to the Library to promote reading and writing of standard English, to introduce the black male to the library, to let him know he would have to go there, that the library is the place of knowledge.

The march started in Memphis and ended in Jackson. In each small town, the march would stop and take local residents on a trip to the library.

41 posted on 12/22/2012 6:50:48 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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Yeah... the democrats were in power down here. You know why blacks are moving South... they are treated much better here than in places like Dayton and Chicago.

Matthew 7.5

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye”

http://web.wm.edu/news/archive/index.php?id=5438

Q&A with Douglas: Northern segregation

News · W&M News · 2005 archive · Q&A with Douglas

Author: Brian Whitson, Source: W&M News
Date: Dec 13, 2005

“Most people assume that school segregation was a phenomenon exclusive to the South. In his latest book, “Jim Crow Moves North: The Battle Over Northern School Segregation, 1865-1954,” law professor Davison M. Douglas examines the untold story of northern school segregation between the end of the Civil War and the early 1950s. Douglas, the Arthur B. Hanson Professor of Law, is a legal historian with an expertise on the interplay of race and law in American history. He recently sat down with the W&M News to discuss his book, which is being published by Cambridge University Press and will be available this month in stores.”

LLS


42 posted on 12/22/2012 8:10:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: LibLieSlayer
At no point did I say it was a Southern issue, and I don't know why you think I'm a Yankee or that I'm sticking up for the methods by which northern schools were integrated.

One of my degrees was earned in Boston.

Boston, late 70s-80, was the most racist city in which I've ever lived.

However, none of us should pretend that the integration of public schools in Mississippi went off without significant issues. Of all states, Mississippi would be a case study in the problems with integrating public schools.

Your point is like saying some northern colleges resisted admitting black students. That's probably true. However, I don't recall that any of them involved 3,500 troops, 500 law enforcement officers, riots, and a student who required 24-hour protection from U.S. Marshalls.

43 posted on 12/22/2012 9:00:19 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Remember South bashing is a full time hobby for some. Given our weather, land, creativity, cooking and beautiful women I attribute it to extreme jealousy....


44 posted on 12/22/2012 9:04:35 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Meredith has largely been ignored or reduced to a footnote by the leftist media. Because his agenda doesn’t fit with the typical leftist race narrative, he is of no use to them. Same goes for fellow Mississippian Charles Evers.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 9:57:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The left hates James Meredith.

He's an opponent of affirmative action. Meredith's termed affirmative action ""nothing more than a political machine for the liberal elite," and said "I've always thought affirmative action was always a direct insult to anyone with any intelligence."

For forty years, he's told black men that their problem was a lack of education, saying in speeches that nine out of ten black males read at a third grade level. Once, when confronted by the media, Meredith said the number came from a study but he thought he was being generous in saying nine out of ten black males read at the third-grade level. He said he believes the actual number is even lower.

He was once quoted as saying that black mothers love their sons, but they educate their daughters, leading to the mothers losing control of their sons after the age of three.

In 1989 he told a Washington Post reporter that 60 percent of black leaders were involved in the drug culture and 80 percent were involved in corruption of one sort or another.

Meredith says that once he became an aide for Senator Jesse Helms, the "liberal elite of the universities" worked to prevent him from speaking on college campuses.

It's no wonder you rarely read about James Meredith. Generally, you hear from him only because the University of Mississippi wants to commemorate something and he declines to go along with it.

For example, Ole Miss wants to erect a state of him to commemorate the 50th anniversary of his admittance. Meredith says he'd like a statue, but only if it were to commemorate something he accomplished in his life. He says that the fact he simply enforced his Constitutional Rights isn't an accomplishment.

46 posted on 12/22/2012 10:44:43 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
I am just reporting on my childhood and the first integration days in Mississippi... with absolute honesty . I live in South Mississippi. This point is not negotiable. I was in the first generation of integration in Mississippi and I lived it and I am telling you that I NEVER WITNESSED ANY PROBLEMS. It wasn't until I had graduated from High School and then when the democrats started their crap... as they ALWAYS do... race problems occurred.

BTW... some of the black kids that I went to Junior High and High School with are customers and friends of mine today.

I was a Boy Scout as a kid... it was the best thing that ever happened to me and I support the Boy Scouts today and have friends that are Scoutmasters. GOD bless you for being one!!! Merry Christmas to you and yours.

LLS

47 posted on 12/24/2012 6:19:37 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: ejonesie22

They certainly want to move down here in large numbers... the bad thing is many want to bring the cancer that killed the North down here and infect us with it.

LLS


48 posted on 12/24/2012 6:23:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (A child is born in Bethlehem KING of KINGS)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I believe what you say about your experience. Oxford, 1962, was a very different experience for James Meredith than yours. The University of Alabama, 1963, was a very different experience than yours. Boston, 1980 or so, was a very different experience than yours.

James Meredith is a fascinating and complex man - abandoned by the liberal elite, the Civil Rights movement, and the liberal media because of his conservative views.

Thanks for your support of Scouting.

Most of all, I appreciate your input on FR. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

49 posted on 12/24/2012 6:49:30 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Same the “enlightened” left is everywhere. See something that is attractive so they obviously want to be here, then think they are smart enough to make it “better”...


50 posted on 12/24/2012 8:02:51 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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