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1 posted on 12/09/2012 3:03:52 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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Employers will look at employees who are doped up and performing any kind of work that invites unsafe practices. You only have to note two or three occasions, and then dismiss the guy.

Course, then you come to replacing him, and how you’d go and recruit non-smokers. If you were Howard Hughes....you’d recruit Mormons and feel pretty secure about your staff.


2 posted on 12/09/2012 3:10:16 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Seems pretty simple to me.

The job requires that you not use ________(pick a drug, or all of them).

Failing a drug test is cause for dismissal.

Put it right there on the Application.

Any job worth having in the oil patch comes with a mandatory pre-employment drug test and random checks, like it or not.

As I said to one young man, "All that stands between the 25K you make a year and a $60K job (starting) is passing a test--just not spending your money on something that keeps you from making twice as much. Your call."

3 posted on 12/09/2012 3:11:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Idiots. Pot is a drug. Same as alcohol...you don’t come to work stoned or drunk. You do, your fired.


4 posted on 12/09/2012 3:11:30 AM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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Marijuana is still classified as a Schedule I controlled substance according to the DEA and Federal Law. Be that as it may, alcohol is legal but I can’t work under its influence nor can I drive under it. Your employer creates the work rules, you must abide by them.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 3:15:21 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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THC (the active ingredient in pot) is not like alcohol in some critical respects.

Alcohol is fairly rapidly detoxed from the body. However, THC gravitates to fatty tissue and linger much, much longer. There can be traces in the body for long times afterwards.

Therefore, there are all sorts of liability issues e.g. when pot smokers operate machinery or in settings like hospitals.

It is NOT just a matter whether someone is smoking pot during working hours. It could be weeks or months even before high quantity users have the THC eliminated from their bodies (especially their brains). Employers beware that pot smokers can and will be a liability in the workplace.


7 posted on 12/09/2012 3:19:45 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I would think that there would be no question with regard to this. Currently, many employers have policies about drinking alcohol, being drunk during working hours is verboten. There are also rules against smoking. This shouldn’t be any different.


8 posted on 12/09/2012 3:26:42 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Pretty simple line to draw here, IMHO. I'm all for making it legal. I don't see any specific need to permit an employee to abuse it during work hours.

Personally, I'd consider any use grounds for dismissal. Just like before. I won't go out of my way to stop someone from smoking it though. That is their freedom of choice and consequence.

9 posted on 12/09/2012 3:28:22 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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A stoned society is a better controlled society. Just look at what thier doing to our children and grandchildren


11 posted on 12/09/2012 3:36:18 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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Companies can already refuse to hire people, and fire people, who use legal drugs....and even alcohol....so stoners should not get too overtly excited in COL and WASH if they plan to stay gainfully employed.

And, pot is one of the easiest drugs to test for


13 posted on 12/09/2012 4:01:53 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Not a problem for employers who do drug testing.

If the employee fails the test he/she should be terminated.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 4:27:53 AM PST by octex
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Here's the way I look at it. Simply because it is legal doesn't make it ok to do it on the job, alcohol is legal but most companies have a strict policy about drinking on the job. Since pot stays in the system for 30 days, or so I am told, then the company has the right to say that since they can't determine if the drug test failed because the person used on the job or not, they are going to have to fire the person simply on the assumption they used on the job, for safety purposes.

This is legal and fair. If you don't want to work for places that do drug tests then work some where else, or simply don't smoke pot.

16 posted on 12/09/2012 4:31:58 AM PST by calex59
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People forget the infamous Maryland Amtrak wreck of 1987, which involved a stoned engineer. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Maryland_train_collision


17 posted on 12/09/2012 4:41:46 AM PST by ingeborg (Don't take it out on Willie Green.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
This is something I never understood. Employers say they want a 'drug free workplace', [which is understandable], but what they MEAN is that they want a drug-free work FORCE....which is not the same thing.

On a side note - most of the whacked-out,'druggiest' people I've ever known all were on government-approved drugs.

18 posted on 12/09/2012 4:58:40 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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There are and should be limits to what an employer demands of their employees in their off duty hours.

However, that being said, while a test can determine if someone has THC in their system, unlike alcohol, it cannot determine if it is enough to cause inebriation.

The best result might be a medical prescription that indicates how much of what kind of marijuana a patient can smoke when off duty, and still be functional at work. Most prescriptions are scheduled, not “as needed”, so this isn’t too unrealistic. Doctors would use a weight table, suggest the marijuana before, during or after a meal, as well as asking the patient about their own experience, how long a high lasts for them.


21 posted on 12/09/2012 5:34:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“Pot may be legal”

Not it’s not. It’s still illegal under Federal law, including so-called “medical” pot.


44 posted on 12/09/2012 9:23:51 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

HOW?

Employers can even prohibit employees from smoking tobacco in their off hours.

Dopers are dopes to think that their goal of demonizing tobacco and alcohol wasn’t going to bite them on the butt.


46 posted on 12/09/2012 9:37:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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