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‘Conservative entertainment complex’ killing GOP
Marietta Daily Journal ^ | November 16, 2012 | Kevin Foley

Posted on 11/16/2012 1:32:07 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs

Despite Gov. Rick Scott’s seven-hour waiting lines in Florida’s minority voting precincts, President Obama won the state’s 29 electoral votes, giving him a 332-206 victory and, more important, a clear mandate to lead America forward.

Just two weeks ago, Republicans were told by Fox News’ resident genius Dick Morris the election was in the bag. So, what happened?

David Frum may have the answer.

“The problem with Republican leaders is that they’re cowards, not that they’re fundamentally mistaken,” said the conservative pundit and former George W. Bush speechwriter. “Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex.”

That “complex” includes Fox News’ Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, along with Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and scores of other far-right flamethrowers.

“Mitt Romney ... was twisted into pretzels,” Frum explains. “The people who put cement shoes on his feet are now blaming him for sinking.”

Right-wing opinion entertainers are successful because they tap the anger, mistrust, and resentment conservatives feel about the role of government by comingling entertainment and politics.

This combination has attracted large audiences by demonizing and disparaging those with whom conservatives disagree, people like Democrats, environmentalists, feminists, and civil rights activists.

(Excerpt) Read more at mdjonline.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: death; foxnews; gop; romney2012; talkradio

1 posted on 11/16/2012 1:32:12 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Oh, good, I get to be first! FUDF!


2 posted on 11/16/2012 1:35:29 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Frum is an idiot.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 1:35:44 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
The problem with Republican leaders is that they’re cowards...

The author got this much correct.

4 posted on 11/16/2012 1:36:14 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Flag_This

All the pundits were telling Romney to avoid social “wedge” issues.

“Mitt Romney ... was twisted into pretzels,” Frum explains. “The people who put cement shoes on his feet are now blaming him for sinking.”


5 posted on 11/16/2012 1:38:45 PM PST by o2bfree (All us minorities got us an Obamaphone!!!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Little Kevin better git himself some iron underpants. What a crock.

This election was stolen in a selected set of key precincts in states where there was a contest. It was stolen because of a myriad number of drive-time AM radio stations (e.g., here in Atlanta) spouting talking points, Democrat insurgency masquerading as “Truth Detector” spots on the radio (again, here in Atlanta with WSB and the AJC)....and on and on and on.

It was stolen in a manner totally suspending disbelief in statistics where too-many-to-couny precints in PA and OH where reporting ZERO votes for Romeny/Ryan...

It was Stolen! If I ever meet that snaggletooth Kevin, I’ll punch him in the face and tell him so.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 1:39:13 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

So...

...the narrative is being set, exactly as predicted. Conservatives like Limbaugh, Levin et., al, are the ‘problem’ in the GOP and such ‘extremists’ tap into hate - and therefore divide Americans from cooperating with an all-intrusive government tyranny that exists for the benevolence of the plebes.

The unspoken solution: silence them and remove them.

That about sum it up?

That’s where all this goes anyway.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 1:39:18 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

There was massive fraud in black wards...everyone knows this...in places in Penn. and Ohio Romney did not get a single vote...while tens of thousands were tallied for The One. It’s impossible that not one person in some wards did not, at least mistakenly, vote for the wrong candidate.

Same is likely true in Florida...we don’t have free and fair elections anymore...we have multi-day get-out-the-vote efforts by union thugs. They vote thousands of illegals and convicted felons...and nobody seems to care.

The media will not cover this corruption because the media has become corrupted.

It’s a mess.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 1:41:27 PM PST by kjo (+)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Frum is upset that Romney tried to veer right to appease Conservatives, and says the solution is to simply NOT appeal to Conservatives.

So Frum is suggesting that the GOP destroys itself in order to “save” it.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:11 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

FNC is as middle of the road as a channel can be. It is not “conservative”.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Frum is usually wrong about everything.

In this example he is completely wrong about Rush Limbaugh.

But Hannity and O'Reilly are blowhards with nothing original or important to say. Glenn Beck is, to put it mildly, "eccentric." Coulter was once sharp but is now a self-caricature. Laura Ingraham is derivative, but not nearly as clownish as O'Reilly.

We do not need Frum's weak ideas. Dole/Kemp was his idea of a dream ticket.

We need principled conservatism that is long-term in its thinking.

11 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:16 PM PST by wideawake
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Columnist Cal Thomas, echoing Romney’s “47 percent” crack, claimed the 62.2 million Americans who voted for Obama are “freeloaders” and “moochers.”

Sorry, Folks, but there's merit in this comment. When I hear a woman in Cleveland telling people to "Vote Obama 'cuz he git me a free cell phone", I knew we were in trouble. It will never happen, but I'd love to see a current events test as a prerequisite to voting, or at least show that you paid income taxes and that you have something in the game before you can affect the outcome of that game. The truth is, there are now more people not paying taxes than those who do and that has no long run viability.

12 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:51 PM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: kjo

I believe it was 19,000 to ZERO in favor of the kenyan in those 59 Philly precincts. Impossible.

I think some of the talk of PA being close spooked the dims and they absolutely committed fraud.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 1:45:08 PM PST by lodi90
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To: kjo

“.in places in Penn. and Ohio Romney did not get a single vote.”

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Where did you get your information? I would love to throw in the faces of a few libs I know.

.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 1:50:33 PM PST by Mears
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To: Flag_This
Oh, good, I get to be first! FUDF!

Good job and a hearty amen. The instant I saw that David Frum was the source for the "answer" my first thought was . . .
15 posted on 11/16/2012 1:51:06 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I don’t even understand his point, here. Obviously he’s embarrassed by people like Rush. But Romney lost because he was afraid to tell the far right off? On what do we base this conjecture? Had anyone been told before the election that the turnout would be as low as it was and that Obama would lose as many votes from 08 as he did they’d automatically assume Republicans won. But they didn’t, and Romney got less votes than McCain of all people.

That implies conservatives stayed home. Tell me they were turned off by Romney not criticizing Rush enough. What utter nonsense. I could see Drum’s point if the conservative blusterers alienated independents. That’s an old tune. But this argument is that conservatives are being radicalized, that they are out of touch, and that that somehow lost the election. It makes no sense.

What about the leftist media complex? It’s bigger and at least as cloistered and self-rationalizing as the Fox-plus-AM-plus-Internet cabal that apparently decided the election. I’d tend to think they’d even eachother out. But Drum is only concerned about the right side. Because he’s embarrassed by them at Washington cocktail parties, because libs mistake him for being one of them, and for no other reason.

By the way, if the Fluke distraction actually cost Romney votes then democracy doesn’t work.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 1:51:28 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
"by demonizing and disparaging those with whom conservatives disagree, people like Democrats, environmentalists, feminists, and civil rights activists."

Nobody has to demonize these freaks; they demonize themselves just by existing.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 1:51:46 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Ingtar

“The author got this much correct”

Yeah, but to him they’re cowards because they don’t make fun of conservative talking heads enough to sick up to libs. Which is his definition of courage because it’s what he does for a living.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 1:53:19 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: wideawake
"In this example he is completely wrong about Rush Limbaugh.

But Hannity and O'Reilly are blowhards with nothing original or important to say. Glenn Beck is, to put it mildly, "eccentric." Coulter was once sharp but is now a self-caricature. Laura Ingraham is derivative, but not nearly as clownish as O'Reilly"

I'm in complete agreement with you. Rush is still good, but my favorite is Mark Levin.

19 posted on 11/16/2012 1:54:08 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Tublecane

Yeah, he thinks he’s so smart why? He wrote one speech for W?


20 posted on 11/16/2012 1:54:47 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: INVAR

It makes you wonder why extremists on the other side aren’t a problem. Hmm. We’ll never know. Best just to bow down and beg forgiveness from libs and hope they invite us to the next party.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 1:56:30 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Shadow44

Of course, he got the idea from his ex-boss W who needed to “destroy capitalism to save it.”

I don’t care how much spam I get...G W Bush will, in time, go down as an awful president.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 1:57:19 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
This combination has attracted large audiences by demonizing and disparaging those with whom conservatives disagree, people like Democrats, environmentalists, feminists, and civil rights activists.

Can Frum not read? The left does it to us with VENOM!!!

In his world the GOP should bend over and take it without KY from those groups and politely ask for more. Just like every Saturday night at his house.

23 posted on 11/16/2012 1:59:50 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

“Frum Here To Irrelevancy”


24 posted on 11/16/2012 2:00:14 PM PST by mikrofon (Friday Fun)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

ah, No, the election was not in the bag...otherwise Romney would have won.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 2:00:39 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
The so-called conservative media played no part in my choice to not vote for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro socialized medicine, big government liberal run by the GOP.

/johnny

26 posted on 11/16/2012 2:01:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Right-wing opinion entertainers are successful because they tap the anger, mistrust, and resentment conservatives feel about the role of government by comingling entertainment and politics.

Yea, what he said.

27 posted on 11/16/2012 2:02:12 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
‘Conservative entertainment complex’ killing GOP

The sooner the better.

28 posted on 11/16/2012 2:06:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Liberty Valance

They still think Frum is some sort of conservative and doesn't work for us. LOL!

29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:08:55 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: INVAR
Sounds like the GOP is taking the “if you can't beat ‘em, join ‘em” path, although I think that was their intention all along, until the Conservatives showed up. Now, US politics is one-party rule, with a few ankle biters kept around for blame purposes only. Obama and Co. learned their marxist lessons well. Conservatives didn't learn their lessons from history, and will be permanently marginalized as a result.
30 posted on 11/16/2012 2:09:56 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The problem is that the Democrats are using social scientists and the Republicans are using political scientists. The Democrats play on deep-seated emotions like fear and envy. Why don’t the Republicans? True, the best way to solve this would be to build courage and modesty in Democrat voters, but we might be completely lost before that happens. Look at Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Of course, the Democrats have their lower needs met, but the Democrat leaders have them afraid they will lose their security and those needs won’t be met. Call it The blueunicorn6 Corollary to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Even if peoples needs have been met at a level, the fear of losing that satisfaction will cause people to function at that level. We can take advantage of that, too.

“Understand yourself and understand your opponent, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”


31 posted on 11/16/2012 2:09:56 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: factoryrat

Sounds like the GOP is taking the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” path,


The problem with that is their voters will to. Why vote for the loser GOP when the dems are always winning?


32 posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:36 PM PST by lodi90
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To: factoryrat
At least a few folks seem to understand what time it is.

As to the GOP going along to get along - life imitates art.

"The Chancellor has played to the Senators well. They know where the power now lies and they will do whatever it takes to share in it" - Mon Mothma, Star Wars, Episode III.

They know where the power now lies

33 posted on 11/16/2012 2:19:56 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lodi90

You have three distinct political groups in the US now: The democrats (left), the republicans (center), and the conservatives (right), all vying for control. The only real divide between the democrats and republicans is what brand of socialism they want to implement (government vs. corporate), while the Conservatives just want both of them to follow the Constitution and leave us the hell alone. Takers, bankers, and producers, always fighting for control, since the beginning of time. Right now, the takers have the upper hand, with the bankers sniffing profits to be made from the takers’ exploits. In the mean time, the producers are going to give the other two sides the middle finger, and produce for ourselves, to the exclusion of all of the others.


34 posted on 11/16/2012 2:43:39 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Mears

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/liberal-leaning-elections-watcher-larry.html

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2012/11/16/election-dead-people-vote-philadelphia/

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html


35 posted on 11/16/2012 3:07:00 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Mears

http://www.boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/election-results-history.aspx

Unfortunately, McCain got hammered in those same precincts too. Precincts were redrawn due to Census 2010, but:

McCain - lost 19 precincts with 0 votes, 4084-0.
lost 28 more precincts with 1 vote, 11661-28.
lost 39 more precincts with 2 votes, 20498-78.
lost 37 more precincts with 3 votes, 16010-111.
lost 25 more precincts with 4 votes, 10641-100.
1436 total precincts

Romney - lost 21 precincts with 0 votes, 5978-0.
lost 25 more precincts with 1 vote, 10139-25.
lost 36 more precincts with 2 votes, 21998-72.
lost 23 more precincts with 3 votes, 10701-69.
lost 28 more precincts with 4 votes, 13252-112.
1077 total precincts

Obama’s entire margin of victory comes from fewer than 250 precincts in Cuyahoga County in which Romney got no more than 26 votes. If you looked at Franklin and Hamilton Counties, it might be less than that.


36 posted on 11/16/2012 3:55:41 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: BwanaNdege; scrabblehack

Thanks to both of you.

Now I have some ammo to prove this entire election was a fraud.

God,it boggles the mind.

.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 5:40:45 PM PST by Mears
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Fee, Fi, Fag, Frum
I see a pundit who's awfully dumb.
38 posted on 11/16/2012 5:43:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mears

It’s been covered by Fox (especially Hannity). He’s had Democrats on his talk show that have admitted things may have gone too far this time.

Still, nobody in the Justice Dept. seems interested.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 4:03:19 AM PST by kjo (+)
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