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Manufacturing Jobs Available - 2 Companies of CBS 60 Minutes Segment This Evening 11/11/2012
CBS 60 Minutes - Alcoa Howmet - Click-Bond | November 11, 2012 | none

Posted on 11/11/2012 6:16:55 PM PST by First_Salute

The CBS 60 Minutes segment, "Three million open jobs in U.S., but who's qualified?"


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: employment; jobs; vanity; work
Alcoa Howmet Division of Alcoa Power and Propulsion is on the western shoreline of the state of Michigan (east shore of Lake Michigan) north of Holland.

Click-Bond is in Carson City, Nevada at the airport.

1 posted on 11/11/2012 6:17:03 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute

Blacks, Hispanics, sex deviates, and minorities only need apply.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 6:18:33 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: cripplecreek

bttt


3 posted on 11/11/2012 6:22:28 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: traditional1
Blacks, Hispanics, sex deviates, and minorities only need apply.

Nonsense anyone with an H-1B can get hired.

4 posted on 11/11/2012 6:26:39 PM PST by null and void (The One can steal an election, but no one can steal our country.)
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To: First_Salute

Are they trying to tell us that the tens of millions of illegal invaders aren’t qualified? Then why the hell are we allowing them to enter and remain?


5 posted on 11/11/2012 6:33:28 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I guess this is an indictment of our public education system.

Waiting for them to say that in 3,2,1.......


6 posted on 11/11/2012 6:36:08 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)
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To: traditional1
Unfortunately, there is "Obama To Unleash Racial-Preferences Juggernaut" along the lines of what you wrote.

Yet, the purpose of the post, is to help FRPR's looking for work in Michigan and Nevada.

7 posted on 11/11/2012 6:38:55 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
how many can't pass the drug screen???
8 posted on 11/11/2012 6:39:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: traditional1
This is what I thought too but mostly Black people sorry to say it but that is who Obama wants working.

Doesn't matter what your qualification might be if you are not a chosen one you are SOL

9 posted on 11/11/2012 6:47:16 PM PST by funfan
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To: First_Salute

Half of the staff at CBS could get hired as janitors.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 6:53:06 PM PST by Mark (For the first time in my life, I'm no longer proud of my country.)
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To: First_Salute
This week I'm breaking in an Indian and a Russian that will probably replace my contract IT job.

I've have plenty of options with over 20 years experience in my specialty but I shudder for younger Americans who are not as qualified.

11 posted on 11/11/2012 6:53:46 PM PST by AU72
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To: First_Salute
Say what you will about 60 Minutes but I found the report to be informative within the segment's time allowance. I work in this area as a manufacturing consultant and have connections with a training organization similar to the one in the report. Just as in Nevada, it is also helping adult students get the needed skills for operating CNC machines.

Unfortunately, the reporter missed an opportunity to inquire with the ALCOA president, who is from Germany, about the differences between the education systems in the two countries in areas such as technical skill preparation and internships with industry.

12 posted on 11/11/2012 6:54:00 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: funfan
"Black people sorry to say it but that is who Obama wants working."

Yeah; I'd like to see black people "working", too.....rather than 4th generation inner-city tribal parasitic tribes that haven't EVER held a job, and live off other people's earnings, using their Obamaphones for crack deals.....

13 posted on 11/11/2012 6:55:40 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: First_Salute

If employers can’t get skilled people for their jobs, they’re not paying enough. That’s how it works. Offer jobs for say, welders, at $15 an hour and you’ll be whining about there not being qualified applicants. Offer jobs for $30 an hour and they’ll be lined up around the block. Welders earning $25 an hour will quit and come work for you.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 7:05:39 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

“If employers can’t get skilled people for their jobs, they’re not paying enough.”

That’s exactly the cause in the case of CNC operators.
For decades, companies tried to “dumb down” manufacturing positions so that anyone off the street could push the buttons. Now they are wanting CNC programmers for $10 and hour and wanting the government to pay for their training.
On the other edge of the scale, there are “union” button pushers making $40 and hour that really don’t have any skills other than button pushing.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 7:13:46 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: First_Salute

$12 bucks an hour! That ought to bring in the top talent.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 7:22:13 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Alaska Wolf
The 2 companies' representatives in the CBS 60 Minutes segment, were not willing to correctly point to the cost of government as a burden and cost of doing business; and CBS cites in general the classical "free trade" blockheads' repetitive "a lack of skills" in applicants ... complaint.

That's the usual excuse --- "corporate America" keeps insisting that skilled workers continue to work for lower and lower pay in order to compensate for the cost of doing business under more and more socialism, which "corporate America" does not have the guts to resist.

"The suits" want skilled workers to provide meritorious service 24/7; but, when that skill level is not compensated by pay and worthy company leadership, it gets harder for companies "to find good employees."

Good leaders would observe the error of their ways and resist the increased burdens imposed by government; but we continue to lose good business leaders, for whom skilled workers will produce well.

The "$12/hr" stated by the Click-Bond rep. is competitive for many un-skilled workers, but not for skilled workers, and he has himself to blame.

BTW, he was protesting a lack of grammar skills in applicants, but he should take the time to look at his own website - the jobs page is "poorly executed" with several blank-double-space gaps between words, missing commas, and missing periods at the end of sentences.

Also, there is no need for the stilted resume jargon found in the company's jobs descriptions --- that appeals to bureaucrats, not to people whose eyes are on the objective of getting good work completed.

17 posted on 11/11/2012 7:23:47 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
"Three million open jobs in U.S., but who's qualified?"

Sexually confused sociopaths, manhaters, environmentalists and the like.


18 posted on 11/11/2012 7:24:33 PM PST by familyop
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To: T-Bird45

I mostly saw the CBS segment as a chance for employment, for some members of Free Republica who are out of work. Also, it may stimulate some to get the skills about which you write; tx.


19 posted on 11/11/2012 7:26:20 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: bigbob

bttt


20 posted on 11/11/2012 7:30:28 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: count-your-change

Union workers for Harry Reid probably get weak in the knees.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 7:35:57 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Three million jobs, huh? What a load!

This is the companies' cry for the govt. to "do something". Or, in other words, pay the companies money to train people or open the borders to increase competition so they can get people for lower wages.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 7:42:11 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: First_Salute
"corporate America" does not have the guts to resist.

How about "consumer America" who started buying cheap imported crap in the 60s and continued to buy more and more every year? At the expense of their fellow American workers.

Please don't tell me there were no alternatives. That is total BS.

23 posted on 11/11/2012 7:44:19 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: T-Bird45

“Just as in Nevada, it is also helping adult students get the needed skills for operating CNC machines”
________________________________________________________________________________________

I am close to several CNC machine tool dealers in my very large metropolitan area. They aren’t selling anything.
Many customers delayed orders through the summer, waiting to
see what happened with the election. They will not buy
a 100K+ lathe or vertical machining center now with
Bozocare firmly in place for the foreseeable future. The
smaller machine shops might still go ahead and place orders
since they are below 50 employees and not subject to the
law. However, the customers that these shops depend on WILL
be affected by Bozocare and many shops expect orders to
slow significantly. If we dive off the fiscal cliff, defense
projects that involve precision machining (and most do)
will stop or be cancelled when the draconian cuts take
affect. That means much less machined parts orders from the
big defense boys and the mid level suppliers.

Not a good situation for the CNC shop business.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 7:50:34 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: Chode
how many can't pass the drug screen???

I predict that drug screens will be made illegal soon - it's racist, ya know.

25 posted on 11/11/2012 8:26:55 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Drug tests have already been tested in court as discriminatory against minorities, but the courts upheld their legality.

Of course, that is nothing that a few more years of Obozo court appointees won’t be able to take care of.


26 posted on 11/11/2012 8:45:53 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: First_Salute
Companies whine about a lack of skilled workers, but what they are actually whining about is a lack of skilled workers willing to work for low wages, and I mean not much more than Wendy's wages.

Seriously, shouldn't years of technical expertise be worth something? I'm seeing jobs for EXPERIENCED chemists with years of experience in a variety of techniques for $16/hour. And they expect LOYALTY for that kind of money!

I'll work hard on any job, but if they are going to pay me dirt money, I'm going to move on when something better appear--and work hard there.
27 posted on 11/11/2012 9:01:00 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta

bttt


28 posted on 11/11/2012 9:02:18 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Re: “Drug Tests Are Racist”

Here in Washington state, the kids call them “IQ Tests.”


29 posted on 11/11/2012 9:35:32 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
pretty much...
30 posted on 11/12/2012 4:55:24 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

In my area, Cummins pays welders $11+ to start. They can go up to $16+ w/various skill acquisitions. $14/hr is average. They make mufflers for the military and right now are on overtime.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:42 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: ProudVet77

When I was younger, I operated on an assumption that employers were honest. You will remember that young people tried hard to write well, a worthy resume, because we were told that it mattered. We were told that, by somebody who fussed over the header, and then “this line” and then “that line” ... and we wondered and worried that it seemed, to get the attention of an employer, *There was a ‘correct form of resume’ to do that?!*

We next learned, that what job applicants and resumes do, as we submitted them in response to Help Wanted ads in the newspapers, is to help employers figure out who and what employers need/want, and *then* the want ad changes as the search is refined.

I remember when HR dept.’s were formed to replace “The Personnel Dept.” HR was created to offer a management post to women, and HR became more incapable of understanding “what kind of work we do around here.” HR did *not* know what it was looking for, and it became imperative for an applicant to do an end-around that roadblock and find the management of the area in which you were going to be working, you hoped.

A bit later, HR became indispensible, as government regulations forced companies to comply; a lot of fuss about minutiae un-related to skill that is required to produce -— there was a boost in *non-productive* labor.

It was at that point, I ran into trouble. I would succeed at bypassing HR and having good relations with management *who knew how to produce* and *who wanted me to work for them* ... but by then, fussy HR managers would assert that “the chain of command had been thwarted!” as they complained that their fiefdoms had been reduced to “just a personnel dept., once again.”

It did not matter that I had proven that I could do the work, as some manager let me run thru some paces and assemble one of the company’s hydraulic pumps that I’d never seen before, and also did that in record time. He was all smiles, “Golly, *that* was easy.” Yet, the ladies running HR were obsessed with “all prospects must come thru me!”

One exec. was kind enough to detail how my application would fail, as his company’s HR “lady” would simply tear up anything in response to how you sounded over the phone (I had asked to speak with so-and-so in manufacturing, and that was considered “bad form.” Funny, I just ran into that same problem lately, where a lady, in the absence of her boss, assumed that she has a lot of power and resented my reminding her that she is not the boss. Given that I outranked her, she practically “blew up on the pad.”)

Meanwhile at the top of the food chain, I remember an old fellow who had once been the boss of a major manufacturer and then retired; he’d been my boss, too, back in the early 1970’s.

When I saw him in the early 1980’s, he was very specific about “the new breed” that “are pirates” and have “no connection with production - they’re just ‘here’ to take the money and run.” IOW, he lamented the loss of capitalists.

Now, we have charletans and pretenders, schemers, banksters and the lot of “the suits.” The cost of management, the cost of doing business *as it is affected by the burdens imposed by government,* are being *ignored* by them whose pay exceeds hundreds of thousands of dollars / year and cannot be justified.

They have “Compensation Committee meetings.” It is a disgusting self-congratulatory, back-slapping, mutual admiration society, where no one ever mentions their direct connection to production - actual output - because none can prove their importance on the shop floor, or on the docks, or in the field. They are basically princes holding onto thrones.

They have a lot of brain power in many instances, but *they* *do* *not* *care* about people *who have no power to affect their scheme of participation in the income ladder.*

They would immediately accept a govt-run-barracks of “sustainable working quarters” jammed full of H1B visas, that relieved them of doing anything in management related to *labor management.*

The unions are not clueless, but they are too greedy to help their members realize, that the progressives, now, still need to get out the vote in the name of the union, but otherwise, unions will be folded into government, for the purpose of enforcing U.S. Government Workers Barracks Regulations.

Free TV, free Wi-Fi, free cell phones; all the usual workers paradise amenities, along with the unrest caused by being jammed into government housing.

All, the outcome of “the brain trust of suits” who have no guts to resist the cost of government.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 8:07:28 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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