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We Need A Plan
Randy Larsen | 11/09/2012 | Randy Larsen

Posted on 11/09/2012 8:07:43 PM PST by Randy Larsen

We need a plan and with help I may have one.


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To: KittenClaws

So here is the plan, shut the hell up about something out of our hands.

It’s over. Pick a candidate for 2016’ tell him or her he or she has been chosen, and start working. Get the hell over it and get to work.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 8:51:54 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: dfwgator

So the hell what? You need validation for your loss?


42 posted on 11/09/2012 8:55:01 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: thecodont

??? Why would he comment? Recall that the 0bama admin screwed Louisiana to the wall when the Deepwater Horizon blew out. (They won’t recover for decades. 0 & BP are lying through their teeth.) He knows what he’s dealing with.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 8:57:09 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: KGeorge

I think it was Thomas Sowell, a few years ago, that suggested either Vermont or New Hampshire would be the best state for this to work.

If I remember correctly, he stated that it would only take as few as 10,000 new residents and their constitution is ideally established for this.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 8:57:25 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: KGeorge

That’s what I mean. It’s a silence that speaks volumes.


45 posted on 11/09/2012 9:00:31 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Husker24

Yeah, I said guts but I meant balls, but if I claimed mine were bigger than Boehner’s, then someone might think I was a transgender, or transavestite, or something unnatural. My name’s Deb and I’m pure female—so it’s guts I have.


46 posted on 11/09/2012 9:01:23 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: Zeneta

I bet it’s Vermont. They are serious about it, too. (There’s a website

http://vermontrepublic.org)
It would be great if they did (being as far left as it gets). It might help pave the way. (There again, every left-looking site I’ve seen an article, the dim minions are all for it. Actually, they’re their usual classy, charming selves ;-) , but whatever)


47 posted on 11/09/2012 9:03:30 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: thecodont

Oh, I see. Ditzed out- sorry! (This week has been one for the record books)


48 posted on 11/09/2012 9:05:59 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Randy Larsen
How about a dude so handsome that there's no way he could lose, since single females determine who our president is? It matters not one BIT what his ideology is. He just has to be a TOTAL BAAAAAAAAABE!!!!!!:


49 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:30 PM PST by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Randy Larsen

The only way is to get the minds of children OUT of the public brainwashing machines and unglue them from the evil TV which destroys their morality—teaches them to be evil and live by emotions-—and ignore the intellect.

TV makes children stupid—it destroys common sense and Wisdom. They gain no social skills and can’t make sense of morality since TV glorifies evil.

Educated people are the only way we can save the Republic. That and Virtue. Virtue is essential for a Free Republic and our kids are taught to sodomize one another and have promiscuous sex and you wonder why they don’t know enough to not elect a Marxist when they are 18?

The schools are destroying (on purpose) Reason and Logic and all Traditions and knowledge which will make children yearn for true Freedom-—not sexual freedom which ruins their lives and makes them into slaves and stupid and weak and easily manipulated.

Why not promote Vice like sodomy? You can not have freedom. Immorality collapses cultures— always. There can be no trust for economies to work and children are destroyed or become addicts or weaklings when they lack a loving mother and loving father. They become emotional wreaks or self destruct and need government handouts.

We need a moral, educated electorate. We need to destroy the public indoctrination system which is churning out little useful idiots. Educate everyone-—and return to God and Christian Ethics. Otherwise, we are gone.

If all conservative parents took charge of their children’s education—we could be saved-—but we allow Marxist universities to seduce and warp them, even after 12 years of total warping their reality—along with Satanic music and TV and change them into pagan, occultist who think Evil is Good—like sodomy Rights and Abortion “Rights”-—when Rights in this country come from God.

How STUPID these people are!!!! No logic and they think their children will do fine with no belief in God-—and they want this country to be a Nation under God?????? That is America. Lose God—no America. Promote sodomy-—lose America. And ALL our schools are indoctrinating children into this unnatural, dehumanizing act and calling it a “Right”!!! How utterly evil and stupid and warping children’s minds exactly what they do with the boys in Afghanistan.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 9:23:14 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Randy Larsen; GOPsterinMA; LS; fieldmarshaldj; Arthurio; SilvieWaldorfMD

Please don’t get me wrong, I am on your side.

Over the past couple of years in talking with both conservatives, liberals, and nonpartisans about the GOP and the election that just happened:

Here are the results. Remind you, these are not my opinions, but the opinions of others There are common themes:

1. Bachmann - One person liked her because she was new blood, another person called her Palin 2.0. The Obama supporter that liked her was also a fan of Duncan Hunter.

2. Romney - Old blood, Rich guy, maybe decent, better than Obama. Men tend to view him more negatively. Ex Navy O2, pro-Reagan, pro-McCain I used to work with whose wife voted for Obama voted for Goode. He could not stand Romney.

3. Palin - No support whatsoever. Even from Tea Partiers, not liked. Called her an Airhead, cannot stand her voice. Cannot stand to see her on TV. The only guy I know who would support her was Scotish Engineer I met working in Asia. Another guy from Maryland said she was a bitty who should go away. Women like her less. My sister asked me why she muffed the Katie Curic interview.

4. Ron Paul - Asian 25 year old young lady who works with me loved him, She isn’t a pothead. Christian, very positive view of him. When I explained his Foreign policy views, she seemed to understand but no less detered. One guy mid 30s view of him positive, pro-life, pro-economy antiwar. Calls the mainstream GOP pro-war too pro-israel.

5. Chris Christie - wonderful guy, a couple I know who has a house in NJ cannot wait to vote for him. They also had a favorable view of Ron Paul. Ron Paul supporter in his mid 30s called him a bluestate a**hole.

6. Newt Gingrich, Clintons, and Bushs - Old Blood they want no part of them. Ron Paul supporter in his mid 30s called Newt a d*****bag.

7. Rick Santorum - Male Palin. No support whatsoever, except Mark Levin. One person said he was a rah rah boy for the GOP.

8. Mike Huckabee - Black guy I know who voted for Obama only because he said his grandfather would disown if he did not, likes Mike Huckabee, says he would vote for him. Likes the Fair tax idea.

9. Herman Cain - Hispanic guy from CA I met on a jobsite said he liked Cain until he found out he was cheating on his wife.

10. Rick Perry - Ex Army Colonel I used to work with likes him, as does the Ron Paul guy in his mid 30s.

The general opinion, right or wrong of the GOP

1. Interested in old blood only
2. The GOP gets high marks for Economy, low marks for foreign policy.
3. Reagan is still liked, even by most Obama voters
4. Ron Paul still has a favorable view among the people I talk with.
5. Palin and Santorum: Palin is disliked, not too many people care about Santorum.

Bottom line

1. The GOP needs a male figure, masculine figure, who talks like a man.
2. New blood
3. With a Reaganesque Foreign Policy
4. Pro growth economic policy.

The answer:

Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016 and Ted Cruz


51 posted on 11/09/2012 9:28:18 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: DallasDeb

Hillary has more balls than No Balls Boner has.


52 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Randy Larsen

Sounds like Operation CHAOS redux. People thought Obama was the basket case and if he was nominated, beating him would be a cakewalk. Turned out great, didn’t it?


53 posted on 11/09/2012 9:38:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Randy Larsen

The answer, I think, is to take the reins of the GOP presidential process the same way we did with the congressional races. Get together and vet our candidates before the primaries, and then all agree to support a single conservative in the race. This is what was missing in 2008 that allowed Romney and the moderates to stop the Tea Party momentum.

In other words, we need a pre-primary convention or something in order to select OUR conservative primary candidate. Then if any other spoilers jump into the primary without going through OUR process, they get no votes.


54 posted on 11/09/2012 9:46:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Randy Larsen
Is this plan possible?

Yes, it is possible.

It will take this type of planning ( thinking outside the box ) to change the status quo.

There are too many conservatives that are completely frustrated right now to be able to come together with a single solid plan but that will change when they decide to roll up their sleeves and get to work. Don't let those who are ready to throw in the towel deter the consideration of new ideas.

There are several considerations that come to mind from your proposal.

First, the Tea Party Republicans are going to be ignored by the party that they are most closely aligned with in order to take a larger share of the center. This is because they know the party will ultimately get their support in elections since there is nowhere else to turn. They are of the opinion that a third party movement would be political suicide for both, which is correct.

Second, the Democrats have to play to the far left during primaries since they have nothing to gain otherwise. The conservative Democrats are too small in number to worry about gaining their support.

Third, most Tea Party Conservatives would rather die than to ever associate themselves with the Democratic Party. I see this as a giant obstacle to such a plan.

However...

If there was to be a 'Tea Party Democrat' movement, I can foresee an immediate shift in all party primary races and also noticeable changes in local and state races. The shift in democrats seeking party nomination would have to take into consideration the conservative vote.

The movement would have to expressly exempt the individual voter from voting along any party line even though registered and would encourage splitting tickets for any candidates deemed favorable to Tea Party principals.

This, I believe, may be the only solution we have available for now. I fear that we are going to stagnate unless we can come up with unconventional solutions that keep us moving forward. It is obvious that we have been ignored but that is because we have allowed it. It's time to try something new.

55 posted on 11/09/2012 9:48:26 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Randy Larsen

All the wishful thinking and clandestine strategies are nice to think about, but useless AFAIAC. When the Left gained the school system (early 80’s), it was game over. The indoctrination was in full throttle and the fruits have now matured. The media fell first in the 90’s and now the military and the corporate boardrooms are on the brink.

It’s time to let Math take it’s course and let the rotted foundation collapse. Facts are facts, there is no way we are going to out Santa Claus, Santa Claus. Inner city zombies will not listen to logic or reason. They have no idea what logic is and reason is a poor substitute for free stuff. They are ignorant and, 7 times out of 10, too stupid to realize it until it all comes crashing down.

Let it burn. There is no way to talk sense to these people short of a smack in the face. It’s all they understand. Let the Democrats own this, completely. As unemployment keeps climbing, the hopium will wear off. When Santas’ bag-O-toys is empty, they’ll be ready to listen.

This is using the Marxists’ own game against them. Buy locally, whenever possible. Reduce consumption to the lowest level you can. Make do with a 10 year old vehicle. Find out who is supporting the DemoMarxists and refuse to patronize their businesses. Shun them. DemoMarxist neighbors? Shun them. They probably shun you anyway. Any relative of mine, who actively or otherwise supports these traitors, is dead to me. I’m serious. Reduce all debt possible. Starve the beast.

I do not have an answer for the school system. Other than system collapse, I see no way.


56 posted on 11/09/2012 11:08:02 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Perdogg

Yeah, but RFK got killed. Didn’t he get killed right after he won the CA primary? My vague recollection is the guy was riding pretty high right before he was shot dead by a Palestinian terrorist let us not forget.

HAd he lived he might have been the nominee, so i don’t think he is a good example.


57 posted on 11/09/2012 11:34:48 PM PST by jocon307
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To: 98ZJ USMC

That’s my take too, bookmark bump.


58 posted on 11/09/2012 11:38:32 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Perdogg

I’m done looking for a candidate that can win because every one of them are torn apart by the media. from now on I’m just going to disrupt the dems as much as I can.


59 posted on 11/09/2012 11:45:57 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m done looking for a candidate that can win because every one of them are torn apart by the media. from now on I’m just going to disrupt the dems as much as I can.


60 posted on 11/09/2012 11:46:11 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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