Posted on 11/09/2012 4:12:36 AM PST by nikos1121
Or maybe you can take a breath and see that those guys were not part of what I wrote.
Out of the millions of Baby Boomers, only a relative few were ever in the armed forces during that time.
Most were firmly here and part of the counter-culture, learning to fine art of LSD, Che, and Maoism.
Like I said, and will repeat CONFLICT AND SACRIFICE WAS NOT PART OF THEIR IMMEDIATE LIVES. It was something the saw on TV or something someone else went a died for. Guess which group is running the nation now? Is it the veterans of Vietnam or the Gulf War or is it the losers of Berkeley and NYU?
Which group became the teachers of Gen X and Y?
Which group created the culture of cheap and quick sex?
Which group dumbed-down our arts and entertainment?
Which ones produced Clinton (both) and Obama or Eric Holder?
Was it the veterans (the minority) or the ones that I mentioned above (the vast majority)?
Speaking of LSD, it was the late, very great Cary Grant who spoke of the wonders of LSD - perhaps encouraging his younger fans to use the stuff. Who knows?
Do you really think the Baby Boomers created the filth that started coming out of Hollywood in the late 60s? That stuff started in the 1950s when the studio system fell apart and the Hayes office was extinguished. Baby boomers along with their parents simply bought the tickets. You can condemn them for that but they didn't create the pollution. (In fact, Hollywood has been filled with dope addicts and sex nuts since its founding - and I speak as a fan! Check out the “pre code” movies of the 1920s & early 30s.) Of course, Baby Boomers and the next generation, continued the trend. But it wasn't my theatrical generation who created the vile “Book of Mormon.”
59,000 Americans died in Viet Nam. I'm not a statistician. Maybe you can give the figures of which Baby Boomers slogged through the rice paddies and which ones sung Kumbaya. Certainly the Kumbaya-types got more press and tv time.
Of course, Christie served himself. In my original post, I called him a jerk and a windbag. But after Obama flew off on Air Force One, Christie apparently literally sat on NJP&L and, voila, the heat came on.
Thanks for donating to the relief efforts. I contributed to Katrina. We all - as Americans - do what we must do. And sometimes we need to set aside for a short while our regional differences.
“Stop being so hysterical in your hatred of baby boomers.”
It isn’t hysterical, and I’m not anything that hasn’t been said before.
“What generation were people like Bill Ayres, Jane Fonda, Pete Seeger, Abbie Hoffman, Timothy Leary, the Berrigan Brothers, Jimmy Carter, etc?”
Didnt say the radical nature of the 60’s and 70’s didnt affect older people no less. The cementing of the mentality of the times in the minds of impressionable baby boomers guaranteed that it would be shoved down the throats of Gen-X and Y. Which it was.
“Do you really think the Baby Boomers created the filth that started coming out of Hollywood in the late 60s?”
Create? They didnt have to create it. They just had to absorb it, and echo it. Which they did.
nikos, I hope this wasn’t an opus for you, we all need to stick together through this unimaginable future we are about to experience (especially those of you that have to deal with it firsthand, in the states, unlike some of us that are overseas and can avoid most of the damage).
The breakdown in society which started in the 50s and took off in the 60s was CREATED by an older generation of Americans; it wasn’t retroactive! Surely, you know the history of the communist party in America which dates back to at least the 1930s. These older people pushed an agenda of free sex and non-workable and cruel left-wing ideas that twisted the minds of some of the Baby Boomers. You guys simply carried on the tradition.
I’m still waiting for stats on who fought the Vietnam War.
Charles K usually makes sense, but he totally lost me the other night when he came right out and said Republicans must embrace amnesty.
Considering that some of the guys in country while I was there 69-70 also fought in the Korean war it might be a toss up!
You’re absolutely right about the Boomers.
Of course the Left has always been lurking in the background, as far back as the 1930s, a tiny minority... but it was the Boomers with their huge numbers who turned MAINSTREAM America solidly left.
They are in charge of everything now: government, academia, business, and the media. They own America.
Sure there are a few Boomers — the ones on Free Republic — who think differently — but what good does it do to deny that their leftist mainstream brethren are the ones who’ve wrecked the country?
Of the millions of baby boomers a relatively few were Berkley types and protesters. And who raised the baby boomers? Why, the “Greatest Generation” did. After the war we had pent up demand for “fun” in that group. At a young age they had been sent off to war, the women home doing the work and parenting alone and being terrified probably every day that their loved ones would die...brothers, husbands. So, when the guys came home after victory, things had changed. Women had changed because they had been on their own and felt their independence. Men had changed because they had stared down death and had a great adventure.Child rearing practices changed as women were told to use “demand feeding” for their babies (when they cry, feed them...not on some schedule) and Dr. Spock was the parenting Bible. Boomers were raised to be consumers. They were given everything and on some level the protesting was about their deep down resentment of being spoiled. Give any beast everything they demand and they will become aggressive, hostile.
But, what it all comes down to is this: I don’t think that Conservatives tend to traffic too much in blaming. That is what the Left does. We just get it done. It doesn’t help to blame. Also dealing with people as “groups” who are responsible for things seems more like a Liberal thing, as opposed to individuals being responsible for what they do. It won’t help if we pit ourselves against one another. Unless you set about to solve things, the generation after yours, whatever cute name it is given, will be saying this: “THAT generation just blamed what came before instead of standing up and solving problems.” Not what others did do, what you will do counts more. Your parents may have made you what you are but you keep yourself there.
Yes, I’m sure plenty of vets of the Korean War fought in Viet Nam. Makes sense.
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