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11/09/2012 | nikos1121

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:12:36 AM PST by nikos1121

Like many other "baby boomers," I've been reflecting on the last few weeks with mixed emotions. We've seen just about everything that there is to see in one's life time, and many many things that occured for the first time. Mostly good of course, like the things all people experience personally with their families.

I think for many of us it was the death of Kennedy that started it. Saying that we lost our innocence is putting it mildly, but we lost it tens time over again during the 60s, the Challenger disaster, World Towers etc.

Each death of someone we knew as children from the TV, like a Red Skelton or Bob Hope, or sports figures like Mickey, Roberto and Walter P, it reminds us of many things. What more can we experience?

We experienced what it's like to live with run away inflation, where you can't buy gas or mortgage a house, and we saw first hand, ( and still) what happens when the President of the US is weak.

And yet we experienced what it's like to have a president who is strong and believes in the America of our forefathers.

We saw the IRon Curtain come down, and the insidious rise of Islam. We're thinking what more can we experience?

My friends, I think all of us fear that "we ain't seen nothing yet, compared to what we're about to see."

I've read the post mortem posts by the usual people we've listened to over the years. (I for one am going to take a long hiatus from listening to all of them). Some are still making some sense, like Rush and Charles K, others, like Ann Coulter, are shrill and make me shake my head. I think she's now sayiing that our primaries doomed Romney.

Had Romney attacked Obama like he did Newt and the others, he'd be president right now. The primaries didn't hurt him, but let's face it, the primaries showed us here that ROMNEY WAS JUST AS MANUFACTURED AS WE CLAIM OBAMA WAS. That's not saying he would not have made a great president, he would have.

Did Christie affect the results? You bet he did. Why couldn't he wait until there was clear relief? In a few days it was clear that the gov't response was weak, and people were still out of power, looting, dying. But to hear Christie, the president saved us. Had he waited, Obama would have looked the inept leader he is. Why couldn't he have been more like Bobby Jindal?

What more can our generation experience that we haven't already?I can think of serveral things but here are a few. I'll leave it open for others to add to the list.

1. WE've never seen a nuclear attack 2. We've never been openly invaded by another country 3. We've never lived under Marshall Law for an extended period of time, or seen our military take over our gov't. 4. We've never been ruled by a dictator or tyrant. 5. We've never experienced the gold rush or oil booms of the 100 yrs ago. 6. Isreal has always been a country in our lifetime. 7. We've never experience civil war. 8. Most of us have never seen someone shot dead in front of us or had to kill someone to protect our property or family.

I could go on and on, but what is my point? My point is simple. Prepare for the worst as in my opinion the worst is yet to come..Take that anyway you wish...but know too, that eventually all will be good again in this country. Because God will not let us fail though don't you get the idea that's he's telling us something? That he trying to wake us up?

There is no doubt in my mind that what we are seeing must play thru if we come out of this strong again. It will be a time of turbulence to be sure but renewed prosperity.

We have the most energy stores in the world, and our people will find a way to get it out of the ground regardless who is in power. But with those new found riches there will be redistribution of wealth and more socialism, but the masses will be happy, and yes, Obama will be praised for it, maybe to the point of being reelected again and again...(he will find a way my friends...he will..if the people on the doll want him.)

As I reflect, I'm still the optimist, but something tells me...I can feel it in my shoes...the worst is yet to come, and it will hit us like a tidal wave...

A strong comfort though over these many years, is knowing that there are many many others who feel strongly about this country as I do. I find them each in their postings and comments here.

Thank you, the people of FR, for being here during the good times and the not so good. And let's pray for America...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: america; babyboomers

1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:12:45 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

There many things to say but this one keeps nagging at me: God will not turn us around until we, as a nation, stop sacrificing our children to the god of convenience.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:04 AM PST by GoDuke
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To: nikos1121

Reminds me of our founding fathers words. Hang together or Hang Separately.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 4:24:05 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: nikos1121

“Did Christie affect the results? You bet he did. Why couldn’t he wait until there was clear relief? In a few days it was clear that the gov’t response was weak, and people were still out of power, looting, dying. But to hear Christie, the president saved us. Had he waited, Obama would have looked the inept leader he is. Why couldn’t he have been more like Bobby Jindal? “
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Heck, why couldn’t he have just acted like Bloomberg? It is because he needed to be the drama star.

Nikos, don’t give in and I am with you—I am tired of all the talking heads.

We buy books, products you name it but when it is ball-to-the-wall...they leave us stranded until they can throw out their next product or gimmick.

We need you, let us quit looking to these people that depend on us to depend on them. Let us start depending on our faith and each other.

We must stop giving in to the distractions and do this on our own with God. We can do this. Let’s leave the nest.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 4:26:17 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: nikos1121
Interesting essay. Come take a look at mine.

I don't feel that the quality of actual writing is up to the standards of Freeper Editorial, but the ideas are stellar. I will make you a deal: If you are willing to rework this to improve the actual writing itself, then repost it, it should then go into Freeper Editorial.

I will have limited availability today but I will make time if you are willing to work with me by freepmail.

5 posted on 11/09/2012 4:30:49 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: nikos1121

Maybe if baby boomers on the whole weren’t so damn stupid and keen to chuck the values of this nation overboard over the past 40 years we wouldn’t even have had an Obama to begin with?

The truth is that group has never had real sacrifice or conflict, just stuff they saw on TV or something other person had to go off and die for.

And when it came time for them to take the wheel, they realized they didnt know how to drive the car. So now the car-of-state is going over the side of the bridge with all of us in the back seat.

I just hope Gen X knows how to swim.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 4:32:47 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: nikos1121

I hate to quote BillyBoy, but “I feel your pain.”
The world is going through massive changes, and the USA is about to become the USSA.

I pretty much bailed out in 1999, with a trip to Thailand, and later setting up life in central Europe.
I was back and forth for a while, but left for good in January 2005.
For me, now, I have a happy life on a beach with my Philippine wife and our baby boy, 18 months old, and operating his own laptop.
God only knows what will be in ten years, but I am very thankful that i grew up when I did. It was probably the best years of America.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 4:33:01 AM PST by AlexW
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To: nikos1121

I place the blame squarely on my generation ( the Gen X’ers). We failed to secure the blessings of liberty that were handed to us by our grandparents and scoffed at by our parents.

We make up the largest voting demographic and decided to take the easy road instead of the correct one.

We have set in motion a path to our own destruction, with each subsequent generation will be more dependent on government than the one before.

Nations with more driven citizens, more confident in their country’s greatness will come along and will pick at what remains.

We have traded American Exceptionalism for the illusion of universal equality.

I am truly sorry.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:06 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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To: nikos1121

I place the blame on women. They were the arbiters of right and wrong in society. They shrilled against the double standard - women were sluts while a guy was just sowing his wild oats. The object was, and is, to civilize the men in our lives - first our husbands, then our sons - to create homes where love of God, Country, Family came first with NO compromise.

No matter how we got here, women have decided to show men that they can be even dirtier and badder than guys ever were. Schools have spoiled them, curriculum revamped so girls could do better while sacrificing our sons.

So here we are. Until this generation of sluts dies off and the young men & women who were raised properly take back society, there’s no making it better. A band-aid won’t do when surgery is called for.

I’m making my economic footprint as tiny as possible, getting ready for the fiscal cliff that is inevitable, and putting a ‘NO DEMOCRATS WELCOME’ mat outside my house.

Time to shun the pigs.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 4:51:32 AM PST by oldmomster
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To: nikos1121

Maybe it’s because of the hardships we never experienced that failure of our country possible. After all, the Romans didn’t wake up one morning and decide to be ruled by perverse tyrants or invaded by the Visigoths or to abandon prosperity. These things all came to pass because the Romans had an unshakable belief that they couldn’t. It’s in our genes-there’s nothing more destructive to human character that prosperity.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 4:52:46 AM PST by Spok
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To: VanDeKoik
Maybe if baby boomers on the whole weren’t so damn stupid and keen to chuck the values of this nation overboard over the past 40 years we wouldn’t even have had an Obama to begin with? The truth is that group has never had real sacrifice or conflict, just stuff they saw on TV or something other person had to go off and die for. And when it came time for them to take the wheel, they realized they didnt know how to drive the car. So now the car-of-state is going over the side of the bridge with all of us in the back seat.

Baby boomers never had real sacrifice or conflict? Tell that to all my fellow baby boomers and brother Marines who names are on The Wall. It wasn't baby boomers who voted for LBJ who started this mess with his "Great Society." It wasn't baby boomers who re-elected 0bama. It was the moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites. So take your rant against baby boomers and put it where the sun don't shine.

11 posted on 11/09/2012 4:53:49 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Lazamataz

I thru this together very quickly of course but I’ll see what I can do


12 posted on 11/09/2012 5:06:00 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Irenic

While I totally agree that Christie acted like a jerk with Obama (what else is new with this windbag?), he did promise to have power restored to our area by Thursday, Nov. 9th. This was when local governments were saying we had to wait until Sunday. Bingo! Thursday night I had heat and electricity - several hours after my elderly dog began to suffer the early stages of hypothermia.

Meanwhile, that even bigger jackass and windbag, Mayor Bloomberg, refused to let the National Guard into the city (because these nasty, mean members of the Armed Forces carry guns!) and the boroughs are still in shambles.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 5:10:17 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: nikos1121

I agree and while things are indeed dark and getting radically darker here’s what I think.
We lost America because we lost America’s soul. The only way to get it back is one person at a time. A revival of our faith in the hearts of our countrymen is the only cure. While I love my country and mourn for her, if I’m honest I have to admit that one soul turning to Jesus Christ is of more lasting significance than anything America does in the next 50 years. Our true mission is for the hearts and souls of the lost neighbors and countrymen and if we stay on that mission we’re doing all we should be.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 5:15:55 AM PST by StevMeister
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To: VanDeKoik

You need to go to Washington, D.C. to check out one of the most moving memorials to our armed forces - The Wall - and look at the birth dates of our dead. Then look at some of the dates on memorials to the first Gulf War. Then tell me, a baby boomer, that we made no sacrifices.

Either that, or grow up.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 5:16:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: nikos1121

I also think the worst is yet to come, so I continue to pray.

Romney refused to embrace our Tea Party. In fact, he ran away from us, but I voted for him anyway.

You’re right when you stated that he should have gone after the Marxist in the exact manner he went after Newt, but he didn’t. He ran too decent a campaign...aiming for the so-called moderate independents and women’s vote, when in fact, the independents are mostly Right leaning former Republicans!

I think men and a lot of women, were looking for a fighter and strong CIC, and they didn’t get one. Romney let the issue of Benghazi go. Yes, Candy Crowley stopped him cold when he was going for the Marxist’s throat, but in the next debate, he could have and should have smacked down the Marxist, in the same manner Krauthammer had done on Fox News almost every night of the week. Easy-peasy.

The GOP-E will never learn and until the first two primaries are held in Republican red states, I don’t see us nominating a Conservative of OUR CHOICE, who’s not hijacked by an “open” caucus in the midwest and n “open” New England primary, where both states went for the Marxist. How stupid can the GOP remain?

Be well, dearest nikos1121 and keep praying.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:23 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: miss marmelstein

I am sorry but I hold resentments. I donated to the relief effort but I don’t have much sympathy after that.

Texas suffered fires (yeah, ol’ r-tard Perry, you know—the one with a rock on lease property)—I am not going to look up precise numbers but I will get in the ballpark.

Over 4,000 home burned, 2,700 plus structures, 4 million plus acres. Burnt to the ground. Perry started asking in April for disaster relief and a partial came in July.

Many had fun teasing about the trailers and cow pastures and ol’ r-tard Perry.

So excuse me while I don’t feel a whole lot of sympathy.

Christie served Christie, not y’all. He knew Obama couldn’t deny his cordial advances, not at election time, but Christie wanted that hero photo-op as much as Obama did.

Nope. The man served himself and I am so happy it was good for y’all. Because Christie helped usher in FOUR MORE YEARS of this partisan crud for the rest of us.

Yeah, my grammar sucks.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 5:30:34 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: miss marmelstein

I am grateful that you and your pup got some warm air! I may argue but I love my fellow freepers and I adore dogs!


18 posted on 11/09/2012 5:34:03 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SVTCobra03
"So take your rant against baby boomers and put it where the sun don't shine."

Or maybe some of you can practice your reading and comprehension skills?

The truth is that group has never had real sacrifice or conflict, just stuff they saw on TV or something (some)...

other person had to go off and die for.

Now are you part of that group? Or does it need to be written in 100 point Times New Roman to be understood?
19 posted on 11/09/2012 5:37:00 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: nikos1121

A Humble Prognostication

Economic catastrophe starting about 2015
We have only seen a whisper of this
Entrepreneurs cease to Build Businesses, Jobs disappear
Distribution Channels Collapse
Health Care drops to level of Frontier Medicine

Government responds by Killing Self Love
and replacing it with Fear

About 20,000,000 deaths in US alone
possible as much as 1/3 population
Widespread suffering, starvation, pestilence
Cities will be death traps

The only thing to prevent it was to
permit a lesser catastrophe
But the cards are dealt now

Be Kind One to Another
Tenderhearted, Forgiving One Another

Do Justly, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly

Live in Christ


20 posted on 11/09/2012 5:45:24 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: miss marmelstein

Or maybe you can take a breath and see that those guys were not part of what I wrote.

Out of the millions of Baby Boomers, only a relative few were ever in the armed forces during that time.

Most were firmly here and part of the counter-culture, learning to fine art of LSD, Che, and Maoism.

Like I said, and will repeat CONFLICT AND SACRIFICE WAS NOT PART OF THEIR IMMEDIATE LIVES. It was something the saw on TV or something someone else went a died for. Guess which group is running the nation now? Is it the veterans of Vietnam or the Gulf War or is it the losers of Berkeley and NYU?

Which group became the teachers of Gen X and Y?

Which group created the culture of cheap and quick sex?

Which group dumbed-down our arts and entertainment?

Which ones produced Clinton (both) and Obama or Eric Holder?

Was it the veterans (the minority) or the ones that I mentioned above (the vast majority)?


21 posted on 11/09/2012 5:49:11 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
Stop being so hysterical in your hatred of baby boomers. What generation were people like Bill Ayres, Jane Fonda, Pete Seeger, Abbie Hoffman, Timothy Leary, the Berrigan Brothers, Jimmy Carter, etc?

Speaking of LSD, it was the late, very great Cary Grant who spoke of the wonders of LSD - perhaps encouraging his younger fans to use the stuff. Who knows?

Do you really think the Baby Boomers created the filth that started coming out of Hollywood in the late 60s? That stuff started in the 1950s when the studio system fell apart and the Hayes office was extinguished. Baby boomers along with their parents simply bought the tickets. You can condemn them for that but they didn't create the pollution. (In fact, Hollywood has been filled with dope addicts and sex nuts since its founding - and I speak as a fan! Check out the “pre code” movies of the 1920s & early 30s.) Of course, Baby Boomers and the next generation, continued the trend. But it wasn't my theatrical generation who created the vile “Book of Mormon.”

59,000 Americans died in Viet Nam. I'm not a statistician. Maybe you can give the figures of which Baby Boomers slogged through the rice paddies and which ones sung Kumbaya. Certainly the Kumbaya-types got more press and tv time.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 6:49:01 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Irenic

Of course, Christie served himself. In my original post, I called him a jerk and a windbag. But after Obama flew off on Air Force One, Christie apparently literally sat on NJP&L and, voila, the heat came on.

Thanks for donating to the relief efforts. I contributed to Katrina. We all - as Americans - do what we must do. And sometimes we need to set aside for a short while our regional differences.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 6:55:19 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

“Stop being so hysterical in your hatred of baby boomers.”

It isn’t hysterical, and I’m not anything that hasn’t been said before.

“What generation were people like Bill Ayres, Jane Fonda, Pete Seeger, Abbie Hoffman, Timothy Leary, the Berrigan Brothers, Jimmy Carter, etc?”

Didnt say the radical nature of the 60’s and 70’s didnt affect older people no less. The cementing of the mentality of the times in the minds of impressionable baby boomers guaranteed that it would be shoved down the throats of Gen-X and Y. Which it was.

“Do you really think the Baby Boomers created the filth that started coming out of Hollywood in the late 60s?”

Create? They didnt have to create it. They just had to absorb it, and echo it. Which they did.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 7:01:10 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: nikos1121

nikos, I hope this wasn’t an opus for you, we all need to stick together through this unimaginable future we are about to experience (especially those of you that have to deal with it firsthand, in the states, unlike some of us that are overseas and can avoid most of the damage).


25 posted on 11/09/2012 7:32:21 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: VanDeKoik

The breakdown in society which started in the 50s and took off in the 60s was CREATED by an older generation of Americans; it wasn’t retroactive! Surely, you know the history of the communist party in America which dates back to at least the 1930s. These older people pushed an agenda of free sex and non-workable and cruel left-wing ideas that twisted the minds of some of the Baby Boomers. You guys simply carried on the tradition.

I’m still waiting for stats on who fought the Vietnam War.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 7:44:10 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: nikos1121
"Some are still making some sense, like Rush and Charles K"

Charles K usually makes sense, but he totally lost me the other night when he came right out and said Republicans must embrace amnesty.

27 posted on 11/09/2012 7:57:14 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Considering that some of the guys in country while I was there 69-70 also fought in the Korean war it might be a toss up!


28 posted on 11/09/2012 8:12:39 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: VanDeKoik

You’re absolutely right about the Boomers.

Of course the Left has always been lurking in the background, as far back as the 1930s, a tiny minority... but it was the Boomers with their huge numbers who turned MAINSTREAM America solidly left.

They are in charge of everything now: government, academia, business, and the media. They own America.

Sure there are a few Boomers — the ones on Free Republic — who think differently — but what good does it do to deny that their leftist mainstream brethren are the ones who’ve wrecked the country?


29 posted on 11/09/2012 8:24:58 AM PST by Blue Ink
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To: VanDeKoik

Of the millions of baby boomers a relatively few were Berkley types and protesters. And who raised the baby boomers? Why, the “Greatest Generation” did. After the war we had pent up demand for “fun” in that group. At a young age they had been sent off to war, the women home doing the work and parenting alone and being terrified probably every day that their loved ones would die...brothers, husbands. So, when the guys came home after victory, things had changed. Women had changed because they had been on their own and felt their independence. Men had changed because they had stared down death and had a great adventure.Child rearing practices changed as women were told to use “demand feeding” for their babies (when they cry, feed them...not on some schedule) and Dr. Spock was the parenting Bible. Boomers were raised to be consumers. They were given everything and on some level the protesting was about their deep down resentment of being spoiled. Give any beast everything they demand and they will become aggressive, hostile.

But, what it all comes down to is this: I don’t think that Conservatives tend to traffic too much in blaming. That is what the Left does. We just get it done. It doesn’t help to blame. Also dealing with people as “groups” who are responsible for things seems more like a Liberal thing, as opposed to individuals being responsible for what they do. It won’t help if we pit ourselves against one another. Unless you set about to solve things, the generation after yours, whatever cute name it is given, will be saying this: “THAT generation just blamed what came before instead of standing up and solving problems.” Not what others did do, what you will do counts more. Your parents may have made you what you are but you keep yourself there.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 8:40:53 AM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: Lees Swrd

Yes, I’m sure plenty of vets of the Korean War fought in Viet Nam. Makes sense.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 10:31:27 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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