Skip to comments.How the Faithful Voted: 2012 Preliminary Analysis (Jews voted 69% for Obama)
Posted on 11/07/2012 3:49:11 PM PST by MadIsh32
In his re-election victory, Democrat Barack Obama narrowly defeated Republican Mitt Romney in the national popular vote (50% to 48%)1. Obamas margin of victory was much smaller than in 2008 when he defeated John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin, and he lost ground among white evangelical Protestants and white Catholics.
But the basic religious contours of the 2012 electorate resemble recent elections traditionally Republican groups such as white evangelicals and weekly churchgoers strongly backed Romney, while traditionally Democratic groups such as black Protestants, Hispanic Catholics, Jews and the religiously unaffiliated backed Obama by large margins.
Well if the Jews don’t care about Isreal why should I worry about it any more?
When Israel has been nuked by Iran, at least there will be “peace” in the middle east, “peace and deadly silence over the nuclear blistered battlefield”
I hope those fools who voted for Barry can live with that....
I know I couldn’t....
We love Israel but the LIEberal ‘chosen ones’....uggghhhhh.
Now we understand Dear Lord why you put them out in the desert for 40 long years.
Jews = less than 2% of the country .
I really don’t care who they voted for when 50% of Roman Catholics voted for Obama . They are MUCH larger part of this country now thanks to their churches support of illegal immigration .
CATHOLICS GAVE US OBAMA TWICE AND THEY ARE TO BLAME FOR THE MESS THEY HAVE MADE IN THIS COUNTRY . DON’T EVEN TRY TO PIN IT ON THE JEWS
In 2008, the Jewish vote for Obama was closer to 80%.
Small and large businesses can’t discriminate in hiring based on religion, however they can discriminate based on political affiliation.
Perhaps they should...
Jews = 99% non-hispanic whites
Catholics = 50% non-hispanic whites
Perhaps you should blame the 50% of "Catholics" (most of whom are "hispanic" and/or "non-practicing") for supporting Obama, rather than blaming ALL Catholics when HALF of us DID NOT want Obama -- in 2008 AND in 2012.
Indeed it was. If we do nothing, we must work on the state level to get voter ID and try to get early voting and absentee ballots squashed for all but the military and diplomatic corp. Watching the west Florida totals showed me just how successful the dems were in squashing the military vote. This has to change or we will never win an election again.
There are several things that make me doubt the numbers. The number of Jews supporting him doesn’t surprise me; that number is probably true. Jews are apparently schizophrenic people who support liberals who hate Israel and want to see it destroyed, but as soon as we fail to support Israel they are the biggest whiners.
But, more than that, I don’t believe that zero actually won re-elction. I believe that the vote was rigged and him having a Spanish company tally the vote opens the door wider to fraud.
Before the election, we were told by the DBM about Republican excitement versus Democrat depression. And, the large number of people who went to vote usually mean a Republican victory. So, IMO, there is a rotten stench about these numbers and I don’t really believe that the Chicago thug was legitimately re-elected.
Unfortunately, it is unlikely that we will ever be able to prove fraud.
I agree with both of your points. We need to fix things before 2016 or we may never hold the WH again.
We need to quit blaming any religion except Islam. The youth vote skews the percentages. Hell in 68 I had to be 21 to vote. I say you have to be 21 or be on active duty.
Maybe when Roman Catholics stop trying to pin Obama on the Jews I’ll stop holding all Roman Catholics accountable for their churches support of illegal immigration .
More than half of all Roman Catholics in this country hate this country , support communism , support theft , etc etc etc and have the gall to call themselves Christians.
They aren’t Catholics. Being Catholic isn’t like being Jewish or black. Being Catholic is a function of adhering rigidly to the tenets and hierarchy of the Catholic Church. It is the clear teaching of the church that neither abortion nor socialism are compatible with the faith. Voting for either is self excommunicating. The people you call Catholics are the religious equivalent of zombies.
Come on,...that is the weakest crap I've heard since the last time the Catholic vote put Obama in. I have been posting here for years now complaining that the church puts Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, and all the Kennedy's into office every election. Then Obama gets 54%-60%( that seems to be in dispute) of catholics as he craps on the church and covers the Cross at a Catholic paid for university so he can talk about murdering babies. The Church.....excuse me, I may have to speak louder....THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS RUN BY, AND IS FULL OF LIBERALS, AND HAS SUPPORTED PERVERTS AND BABY KILLERS SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE FOOD STAMPS! I'm sick of Catholics making excuses like, "you should see my Parish cause we have red neck conservatives in every pew." Or "I don't know any Dems in my church." when the Catholic vote puts these creeps in office all over the US. I have some in my church and The church government, at all levels, won't say a PEEP, when they find out they support abortion, gay marriage, women priests, et al because they don't want to lose the money or they don't want confrontation in the church. I don't know why they are never confronted. I figure it must be money, or they agree with the libs. What makes me tired now is the church covers it up and says, "they aren't "real" Catholics", or "You're just a basher." You can only turn your head from this absurdity for so long.
I've found that the truth seems to be the liberals are running the church and we are in the minority, as "intolerant".
Now go back and re read what you wrote. You stated that 50% of the Catholics don't count because thay are Hispanic or they don't regularly attend. They still claim to be Catholics. Now, if the church finds them in sin, do they deny them Sacrements? Do they even call them aside to talk to them? Do they talk about these issues in Mass? Just recently, I read where a Bishop sent a letter to his people explaining that we should vote for religious freedom issues. That is the first PEEP I've heard of in 4 years. If you don't remind them that a baby's life is more important than gubmint housing, they will follow the free lunch. Some priests even preach Jesus would be in favor of food stamps and free housing. Where is that in Scripture? I've done my best to shut up for several months now, but then you wrote that 50% of the Catholics didn't vote for Obama, as if that were some sort of acomplishment that 50% DID vote for Obama. There is a measurable amount of Hispanic Catholics that kill chickens for religious reasons. What are they being taught?
It's time for church disipline or the church will go the way of the Anglicans, Lutheran's, and others that now marry homosexuals and believe abortion is fine and approved by Jesus. To believe that everything is fine is to have your head in the sand, or somewhere else. It is my concern for the church that I write these things. It is not to "bash" the church.
Being Jewish and pro-America, I’d like to say that too many of my religious brethren are like the Jews of Germany, educated, comfortable in life, disbelieving of the threats around, and dumb as dogshit on a hot summer night.
They learned nothing from Germany and Nazism of the 1930’s. They bury their heads up their liberal leaders’ asses and hope that they don’t fart.
Almost all Jewish combat veterans I know were against Obama (with a couple decent exceptions). Almost all the non-veterans were for Obama. This is a sad dichotomy.
The poison of appeasement has flowed, again, through the Jewish liberals in the US while common sense is taking over in Israel where the threat to their very existence is very real and ever present. This is a sad dichotomy.
The only good thing I can say regarding the liberal Jews of Florida and New York is that most of the older generation will be dead in the next few years so they can’t continue to wreck what is left of American society. They are like passengers on the Titanic yelling at the ship’s Captain, “Go faster, go faster” into the night.
They have exhibited the grossest stupidity of free Jews anywhere in the world, and I, for one, won’t miss them, even if they are my relatives.
You don’t vote to destroy your country (and youself), not if you are sane. And not my life or that of my family and friends who love America, have fought for America, and will die to protect America.
If you want to live in Stupidville, led by a Marxist delusional Third-World authoritarian, go to No. Korea, or even better, go to Iran. They’d love you there, for target practice. But just get the hell out of America so that we can take it back and make it the greatest country in the world that it recently was.
And the 95% of blacks that vote for Obama still claim to be Protestants, when Obama's hate whitey Rev. Wrighty congregation isn't even remotely Christian. So let know when the United Church of Christ officials are going to denounce them, and when you start typing vanity posts about "Protestants elected Obama" and we should all blame the white Protestants too who DIDN'T support him since blacks are almost uniformly "protestant" and overwhelmingly vote Obama.
Maybe if all the leading protestant churches were anti-illegal immigration, your post bashing and singling out Catholic Churches would make sense. Last time I checked, most of the leading protestant denominations love illegal aliens as well.
I disagree. I bet if you surveyed Jewish voters over 65, the vast majority of them voted for Obama as well.
I broke it down my percentages, and the data shows that white Catholics supported Romney & McCain, whereas Hispanic Catholics strongly supported Obama. Yet freepers want to bash "Catholics" in general. If could find data showing that white Jews of European ancestry were for Romney, or that Jews over 35 voted Romney, then it would be foolish to lump in all Jews together.
However, the data shows that Jews are overwhelmingly Democrat, REGARDLESS of their age, ethnic group, or whether they are practicing Jews or not. That is simply not the case with the "Catholic vote".
As much as you understandably want to disown them, and can invoke “self excommunication, the reality is that Rome treats them as members in life and in death, as no less an example then Ted Kennedy illustrates.
And what is conveyed by this expresses what she really effectually teaches, as the hearers of words tend to look for its interpretation by how the preachers of it apply it.
And overall Catholics and like institutionalized Protestants are much more liberal than their evangelical counterparts, even in our compromise state, including in voting for Presidents: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html
It's hard to argue that.
Israel won't be nuked by Iran. Divine intervention will see to that.
That said, I do NOT understand how American Jews can turn their backs on their own people.
For crying out loud, Evangelical Christians show more support for Israel than American Jews do judging by voting patterns.
other than their overwhelming influence in our media and popular culture I could really give a damn about Jews vote
At the other end of the political spectrum, nearly eight-in-ten white evangelical Protestants voted for Romney (79%), compared with 20% who backed Obama. Romney received as much support from evangelical voters as George W. Bush did in 2004 (79%) and more support from evangelicals than McCain did in 2008 (73%). Mormon voters were also firmly in Romneys corner; nearly eight-in-ten Mormons (78%) voted for Romney, while 21% voted for Obama. Romney received about the same amount of support from Mormons that Bush received in 2004. (Exit poll data on Mormons was unavailable for 2000 and 2008.)
Compared with religiously unaffiliated and Jewish voters on the left and white evangelicals and Mormons on the right, Catholics and white mainline Protestants were more evenly divided. Among white mainline Protestants in the exit poll, 54% voted for Romney, while 44% supported Obama. This is virtually identical to the 2008 election, when 55% of white mainline Protestants voted for McCain and 44% backed Obama.
White Catholics, by contrast, swung strongly in the Republican direction relative to 2008. Nearly six-in-ten white Catholics (59%) voted for Romney, up from 52% who voted for McCain in 2008. Three-quarters of Hispanic Catholics voted for Obama, and Catholics as a whole were evenly divided in 2012 (50% voted for Obama, while 48% backed Romney) - http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
Catholics can claim that all they want, but until a year ago, every Catholic I knew, ie, was related to and worked with, voted dem, and they are what you all would call faithfully practicing Catholics. Very active in their parishes, attending mass EVERY Sunday, without fail, and then some besides for the holy days.
When asked why they voted dem when the democratic party was pro-abortion, the answer was the same, both thirty years ago and today with the Catholic neighbor I talked with, it's because the dems are *for the poor*. Almost word for word the same answer, decades apart and in a different locale.
Somehow catholics fail to see that the mandate to care for the poor is for the CHURCH, given to followers of Christ. It's not something to be foisted off on to the government. That does not fulfill the individual Christian's obligation to feed the hungry and clothe the naked, and care for the poor.
You can't vote or legislate away your responsibility.
Conservative Catholics can claim all they want that anyone calling themselves Catholic who votes liberal isn't REALLY a Catholic, but their argument isn't with those of us who point out the error in that claim, it's with the practicing Catholics who vote liberal.
Take it up with THEM. THEY'RE the ones practicing their religion and considering themselves *good Catholics* because they are *helping* the poor by assigning the job to the government.
>>Well if the Jews dont care about Isreal why should I worry about it any more?<<
>It’s hard to argue that.<
It is true that most Jews are liberal, yet we should care because,
“As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. “ (Romans 11:28)
And thus they have a future (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/israel-chosenorforgotten.html), while even apart from any faith connection, we should see them as the victims of Islamic persecution, and are among the best allies America has.
Preach it, sister.
Jews voting for Obama is like chickens voting for Tyson.
Yeah, I do know that.
God will bless those who bless Israel.
I pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and know that Israel is safe, not because the US supports it, but because God is going to protect it.
Amen! And I know you care, unlike so many .
How disgusting was it to watch Clinton commit perjury about fornicating in the WH and the Catholic members of Congress supported him? Just a little sex, don't ya know. If Catholics are going to set themselves apart, shouldn't they at least be different? I don't compare myself to prots, are the "black church", or Mormons, or Jews. But Catholics should stand for something.
The purpose of my rants are to try to get the church to WAKE UP. The church defenders shift into high gear and try to cover obvious problems. I know there is trouble everywhere, but as I keep pointing out, the problems are at the top. It just seems a cardinal or even the pope would say something about Massachusetts or New Jersey and clean them out. As it is, it looks as if the church sanctions the mob and baby killers. Don't even get me started on Kennedy's funeral.
Amen to post #28! That is the biggest problem with the church, IMHO, that they teach that the rich are evil and the government needs to steal their money and give to the poor. Christ taught that WE are supposed to feed and clothe the poor. Pointing the way to the welfare office is not doing God’s work. I think the Jesuits are responsible for this travesty. Any commie country that you hear about priests and nuns dieing is usually Jesuits running guns to the commie rebels and getting caught. It seems they want to be activists for the left more than they want to serve Christ.
More than 98% I'm sure
Christians like Catholics or Baptists or Presbyterians, numbers for 0 went down
i'm sure that more than 98% of Moslems voted for Obama
well, Pew says that 45% of "Protestants/Other Christians" voted for 0 -- that's about 38% of the votes
so, the "Protestants/Other Christians" who voted for 0 put 0 in... without that 38%, he couldn't have won....
42% of “protestants/other christians” and probably 98% of Moslems (as I asked you above) voted for Obama twice. This is a large % of the electorate.
Moslems will keep bashing Catholics....
that's not fair, TPF -- these are just the Jews in America. Nearly all liberals. This is not the Jews in the US and DEFINITELY not our fellow freepers here on FR
you metmom are saying "Take it up with them" -- you can bet we ARE, at the same time you can "Take it up with them on DU or Huff or NYtimes" -- here on FR you'll find no Obama supporters among the Catholics, so all of your posts saying "Catholics this and that" are being read by conservative Freeper Catholics who didn't vote O
Or even openly discuss it or accuse them of it. The screeching and recriminations would be monumental.
as expected, now the standard brigade will come out...
Canadian Catholic high school sending 52 students to help Obama campaign in Ohio
The question is — why did 20% of white evangelicals vote for Obama? There is no historical reasoning for the vote (which some Catholic idiots who voted for Obama can use as an excuse) — why would evangelicals vote Democrat?
we can eliminate the Latino evangelicals from that 20% (as even among evangelicals Latinos, more voted for Obama than for Romney), but still a significant percentage of white evangelicals voted for Obama. What could be the reason?
Jew-hate never gets a rest.
If Jews had voted 80% for Romney based on support for Israel, the usual gang on FR would be accusing them of putting Israel first.
I'm still praying for you and you to be converted to Christianity -- whether Baptist, Catholic, Evangelical or whatever.
finally one gets fed up and tells Lera and other non-Christians
I will ", shake off the dust of my feet." -- Matt 10:14
For you to read, the Moslem Taliban supporting Obama’s re-election
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