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SHOCK: 72 Hours After Grid-Down:
SHTF Plan ^ | 11/1/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 11/02/2012 1:55:07 AM PDT by Kartographer

Full Title: SHOCK: 72 Hours After Grid-Down: Starvation, Supply Shortages, Food Lines, No Clean Water, No Gas, Transportation Standstill *Independent Reports, Pics, Video*

A recent study noted that the majority of people have enough food in their pantries to feed their household for about three days and that seemingly stable societies are really just nine meals from anarchy. With most of us dependent on just-in-time transportation systems to always be available, few ever consider the worst case scenario.

For tens of thousands of east coast residents that worst case scenario is now playing out in real-time. No longer are images of starving people waiting for government handouts restricted to just the third-world.

In the midst of crisis, once civilized societies will very rapidly descend into chaos when essential infrastructure systems collapse.

Though the National Guard was deployed before the storm even hit, there is simply no way for the government to coordinate a response requiring millions of servings of food, water and medical supplies

Many east coast residents who failed to evacuate or prepare reserve supplies ahead of the storm are being forced to fend for themselves.

Frustration and anger have taken hold, as residents have no means of acquiring food or gas and thousands of trucks across the region remain stuck in limbo.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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To: MrB
That’s what a lot of people neglect in their preps - CASH.

Cash is KING in the early stages of collapse.
Silver will be for later when the fiat money starts being rejected,
and gold is simple to preserve wealth “through to the other side”.

Hell's bells, man, I don't have cash now!

101 posted on 11/02/2012 8:48:36 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: kevkrom; Nailbiter; camle; Alkhin; Professional Engineer; katana; Mr. Silverback; MadIvan; ...
Nailbiter ~ I usually ignore detractors to that quote - yes it is from sci-fi TV show- but is pretty well spot on.

kevkrom ~ There are many great truths spoken through characters in novels and on screen. Why denigrate the truth because of that? I used to routinely quote from Lord of the Rings because what Tolkien says through his characters applies. (Sometimes Narnia as well, though as they were written for younger audiences, they tend to be less complex.)

Red Dwarf.

If it exists, there is a Red Dwarf of it.

102 posted on 11/02/2012 8:52:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Have plenty of G & A as well.

THAT I have.

103 posted on 11/02/2012 8:53:01 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: metmom

OK, tell me how someone is/was supposed to expect this or prep for this.

25 Incredible Pictures Of Hurricane Sandy’s Destruction In New Jersey
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/incredible-pictures-of-hurricane-sandys-new-jerse

Sandy Devastates NJ
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/sandy-devastates-new-jersey-slideshow/

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The same way we do it on the Gulf Coast.

If you live in a low lying coastal area, and you get ~5 days of notice the storm is headed your way, you leave.

This is not unknown hurricane devastation. This is not the first time storms flooded Manhattan and knocked out power.

Some of us on higher ground may choose to ride out a storm, but you need to either be prepared to be without power in your area, or be ready to accept the conditions.


104 posted on 11/02/2012 8:55:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Lee'sGhost
“friendly, intelligent, wonderful people” New Yorkers?!

Needs more work.

In small doses, yes.

In bulk, not so much...

105 posted on 11/02/2012 8:57:03 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: Morris70

If you have a fireplace, you can use a Rocket Stove in the fireplace and heat/cook food with just wood twigs, small pieces of limbs if there is any tree around you. Pick up small limbs that have fallen from trees. If you have a balcony, use the Rocket Stove. It burns wood to ashes and burns so hot and completely, there is little smoke.


106 posted on 11/02/2012 9:03:04 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Marcella

No fireplace. Gas stove , lighting pilot with match. Working good enough.


107 posted on 11/02/2012 9:12:23 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: metmom

And I’ve been through hurricanes and power outages lasting 5 - 7 days each on three separate occasions including the middle of the winter and I survived. Had plenty of food, water, cooked with camping gear and made it work with my wife, kids and pets. I had blankets, flashlights, radio etc. The neighbors were as well and we cut down trees, opened up the roads in front of us and waited for the utility companies etc. It’s called being prepared. I’ve since bought a whole house generator and I’m good for several days easily with my own power.

If you’re told to evacuate and you don’t then you’re on your own. If you do evacuate you take what you need to survive and get to a safe are. WARNINGS WERE ISSUED:

EXTREMELY DANGEROUS STORM SURGE AND THE TIDE WILL CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE FLOODED BY RISING WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND IF THE PEAK SURGE OCCURS AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE...

LONG ISLAND SOUND...RARITAN BAY...AND NEW YORK HARBOR...6 TO 11 FT....

You live on the coast, you get the above, you pack and leave. No sympathy from me.


108 posted on 11/02/2012 9:13:35 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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To: Kartographer
"I have even gotten complaints I use it to much and that using a quote from a SciFi/Fantasy TV Program lessens the seriousness of the subject of preparedness."

And Aesop's Fables should be casually dismissed because everybody knows animals can't really talk ;-)

109 posted on 11/02/2012 9:16:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GlockThe Vote

People forget that if you live in an apartment building (because you can’t afford a single-family house) you can’t use a generator indoors.

Let’s have some compassion, folks. Not everybody damaged by this disaster is a liberal. Some Freepers were caught in it, too. A lot of us can hunt, raise our own food, etc., but the sick and elderly can’t.


110 posted on 11/02/2012 9:35:08 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Balaam’s ass...


111 posted on 11/02/2012 9:36:56 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: metmom
“OK, tell me how someone is/was supposed to expect this or prep for this.”

One preps for emergencies, such as a hurricane here in Texas. We know the closer one is to the coast, the more likely hood the house could be completely destroyed or swept out to sea, or destroyed by fire from natural gas lines being ruptured. People that close to the water, know to leave and there are mandatory evacuations in those areas. Some people refuse to go, and they are more than likely, killed. After Ike, some people were never found as their bodies were taken out to sea.

Our state and the Red Cross and FEMA house those who lose everything. If they had insurance, they will recover faster and their insurance usually pays for them to stay in a hotel until their house is repaired or replaced.

Water won't get me, but a tornado spawned by a hurricane, could. I am aware my house could be destroyed by a tornado or trees falling in my house, which is the more likely to happen. I still prep. and have a safe room in my house to hunker if a tornado is in the area. If the house falls down and that safe room is still there, I am still there with preps with me in the safe room.

All we can do is prep and protect ourselves. I also have a 3 day supply backpack in my car. To not prep because the house MIGHT be destroyed, is foolish.

112 posted on 11/02/2012 9:50:54 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Word to the wise - have cash on hand!”

Yes, that cannot be stressed too much. If you have to bug out in a hurry and can only take what you can grab on the way out, a handful of spendable cash is one of the most important things. [In a Zombie Apocalypse situation, a good assault rifle and combat load of ammo is important, too.]


113 posted on 11/02/2012 10:00:09 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: null and void

I don’t live there.

Just sayin: some of this misery is BECAUSE of the very government that media like the NYT is claiming we need more of, such as the gas restriction, the no grills stuff.

They kept on voting for it, not fighting it etc until now it takes some beneviolent action by a government lackey to ALLOW them to survive.

And we are ALL guilty of the same. The erosion of our individual liberties is being accomplished in every boro town and hamlet. Every tree ordinance, every lunch bag inspection in your school...

Short of absolutely refusing to be governed this way, which would take a ground swell to be effective[one person or so would simply be fined jailed or otherwise coerced], I don’t know where you go to live.


114 posted on 11/02/2012 10:02:31 AM PDT by Adder (Sha Nah Nah Nah Hey Hey Hey Goodbye!)
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To: PLMerite

I had to slip in and out of a gas station on the QT this am and can only have done so w cash on hand to grease the guy a little bit.

Well worth it.


115 posted on 11/02/2012 10:05:47 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Kartographer

but but but they have a marathon and a concert, doesn’t that make them feel better?

//sarcasm


116 posted on 11/02/2012 10:12:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Adder

*sigh* perfectly stated.


117 posted on 11/02/2012 10:29:19 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1382 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
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To: Kartographer
I have a curiosity question: In a major SHTF event as the east coast is now experiencing the electrical grid is the first casualty, but what happens to the natural gas supply? Does it get shut down to prevent fires spreading through wide areas or is is left up to provide energy to homes w/ gas appliances?

The reason I ask is I have a 17Kw NG powered alternator which can carry all my 120 volt loads plus the 220 volt deep well pump. I'm good unless NG distribution is interrupted. The genset has LPG capability and if necessary I could run on that but I'd have to get set up first with a tank and more plumbing. I'd prefer the NG as a fuel source as I don't have any storage issues and I get a bit more power from the engine, with LPG you reach a point where you run out in a protracted situation and resupply may be difficult to impossible.

Your thoughts will be appreciated.

Regards,
GtG

PS I'm on two rural acres off a county road. We have a years supply of freeze-dried food for me and mine as well as other amenities.

118 posted on 11/02/2012 10:36:38 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Depends in the gas compressors lose power as well. We Had that problem a couple winters ago in NM and whole town lost their natural gas service.


119 posted on 11/02/2012 10:44:33 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ottbmare; Marcella
but the sick and elderly can’t.

You might be suprised at what some old fogies can do.

/johnny

120 posted on 11/02/2012 10:45:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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