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SHOCK: 72 Hours After Grid-Down:
SHTF Plan ^ | 11/1/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 11/02/2012 1:55:07 AM PDT by Kartographer

Full Title: SHOCK: 72 Hours After Grid-Down: Starvation, Supply Shortages, Food Lines, No Clean Water, No Gas, Transportation Standstill *Independent Reports, Pics, Video*

A recent study noted that the majority of people have enough food in their pantries to feed their household for about three days and that seemingly stable societies are really just nine meals from anarchy. With most of us dependent on just-in-time transportation systems to always be available, few ever consider the worst case scenario.

For tens of thousands of east coast residents that worst case scenario is now playing out in real-time. No longer are images of starving people waiting for government handouts restricted to just the third-world.

In the midst of crisis, once civilized societies will very rapidly descend into chaos when essential infrastructure systems collapse.

Though the National Guard was deployed before the storm even hit, there is simply no way for the government to coordinate a response requiring millions of servings of food, water and medical supplies

Many east coast residents who failed to evacuate or prepare reserve supplies ahead of the storm are being forced to fend for themselves.

Frustration and anger have taken hold, as residents have no means of acquiring food or gas and thousands of trucks across the region remain stuck in limbo.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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Many of you who follow my post have seen me use this quote to describe what can happen in a grid down SHTF situation:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working." "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon." Quark from: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)" (1998)

I have even gotten complaints I use it to much and that using a quote from a SciFi/Fantasy TV Program lessens the seriousness of the subject of preparedness.

Well read this quote from the AP story- Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC:"You can clearly tell at the office, or even walking down the street, who has power and who doesn't," said Jordan Spiro, who lives in the blackout zone. "New Yorkers may not be known as the friendliest bunch, but take away their ability to shower and communicate and you'll see how disgruntled they can get."

Sound familiar?  
1 posted on 11/02/2012 1:55:10 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Prepper's PING!!

FReeper null and void wrote this version of the quote:
"Let me tell you something about New Yorkers, nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their home theaters are working... but take away their creature comforts deprive them of food, sleep, hot showers... put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same, friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty muslim. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
2 posted on 11/02/2012 1:59:57 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I usually ignore detractors to that quote - yes it is from sci-fi TV show- but is pretty well spot on.
Having read what happened in Bosnia and Argentina - Americans are much less forgiving when the amenities disappear


3 posted on 11/02/2012 2:00:06 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Kartographer

I’ve got no sympathy what soever. It’s not like they didn’t know it was coming. Being unprepared is expected by the entitlement crowd... “government will provide”.

I’m always good for a few weeks just on your average day.


4 posted on 11/02/2012 2:03:10 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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To: Kartographer

Another factor the weather looks like rain moving in next week:

http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/New+York+NY+USNY0996:1:US


5 posted on 11/02/2012 2:03:49 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yeah, but they’ll still vote democrat. Hard to feel sorry for them.


6 posted on 11/02/2012 2:14:23 AM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: Kartographer

No kidding, I live in Niantic Connecticut, in Giants Neck. We were clobbered, and my power will be out for at least 5 more days, if Im lucky.

Am I Cold, no, my heat works due to the wonder of my generators (Thats two one 6.5 KW and One 3 Kw). I started out with 45 gallons of gas 4 days ago (Plus full tanks in the generators, cars, and snow blower.) One I bought generator 6 years ago, and the other after Irene, I wanted a quieter unit for after dark. At the rate I burn gas, I’m set for at least 7 more days, and I could easily stretch it to 10 or 11.

Am I hungry, no, I keep a months supply of canned goods, dry goods, and MREs in the pantry. I have a gas grill and a two burner camping stove that broke the bank at 39.00 from Campmor.

Am I thursty, No I filled my 10, 5 gallon cans on Sunday, A day before the storm. Then filled the bath tubs Monday.

What part of “This is going to be a historic storm” that was being sung from the rooftops for almost 5 full days didn’t they get. Even Monday morning it was still not that bad yet, the worst around here was after dark on Monday night.


7 posted on 11/02/2012 2:18:50 AM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: Kartographer
From the article, twitter responses: Via Twitter:

I was in chaos tonite tryin to get groceries…lines for shuttle buses, only to get to the no food left & closing early (link)

I’m not sure what has shocked me more, all the communities around me destroyed, or the 5 hour lines for gas and food. (link)

Haven’t slept or ate well in a few days. Hope things start getting better around here soon (link)

These days a lot of people are impatient because they’re used to fast things. Fast food, fast internet, fast lines and fast shipping etc. (link)

Glad Obama is off to Vegas after his 90 minute visit. Gas lines are miles long.. Running out of food and water. Great Job (link)

Went to the Grocery store and lines were crazy but nail salon was empty so I’ve got a new gel manicure and some Korean junk food (link)

So f*cking devastated right now. Smell burning houses. People fighting for food. Pitch darkness. I may spend the night in rockaway to help (link)

8 posted on 11/02/2012 2:19:41 AM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: gotribe

Good news though, Romney is still going to win the election. There will be more red-leaning states, fewer blue-leaning states.


9 posted on 11/02/2012 2:20:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: blondee123

Take Obama out of the toaster, he is NOW TOAST.


10 posted on 11/02/2012 2:22:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: maddog55

Thanks man. Sitting in the cold and dark w a flashlight I’m feeling the love.


11 posted on 11/02/2012 2:28:12 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Kartographer

This has become Obama’s Katrina. This will help defeat him.


12 posted on 11/02/2012 2:31:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Had to deal with a week of no electric power last year, freak snow storm in October. Was better prepared this time around.


13 posted on 11/02/2012 2:33:25 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MrNeutron1962

“Am I thirsty, No I filled my 10, 5 gallon cans on Sunday, A day before the storm. Then filled the bath tubs Monday.”

You bring up an excellent point that I think a lot of folks overlook. That is, having a sufficient supply of water for drinking and bathing. I keep several sealed water jugs in my “emergency closet” at all times, so that I have at least a week’s worth of drinking water if things go south. A couple times a year, I rotate in fresh stock and keep the old ones in the garage for an emergency supply of bath and wash water.


14 posted on 11/02/2012 2:37:09 AM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Biggirl

I am prepared , but the gas situation beyond my control. Some of the posts on this site are downright stupid


15 posted on 11/02/2012 2:37:32 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Biggirl

This has become Obama’s Katrina. ....But it is STILL Bush’s fault. He could’ve stopped Global warming, shored up the East Coast and stocked the electricity in lithium batteries. Sheesh!


16 posted on 11/02/2012 2:39:29 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: MrNeutron1962

Live in CT, but in the greater Hartford area, which last year took the brunt of that freak October storm, while the southern part did better. This time it is the southern part that got hit bad and the northern part was better off. Just came home from a spiritual retreat when I had to get to the store and prepare fast. Only lost my power for one day. Back on now.


17 posted on 11/02/2012 2:41:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Safetgiver

Even the old charge “it’s Bush’s fault” is NOT going to work NOW. You own it now Obama. SARC.


18 posted on 11/02/2012 2:42:32 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DemforBush

“You bring up an excellent point that I think a lot of folks overlook. That is, having a sufficient supply of water for drinking and bathing. I keep several sealed water jugs in my “emergency closet” at all times, so that I have at least a week’s worth of drinking water if things go south. A couple times a year, I rotate in fresh stock and keep the old ones in the garage for an emergency supply of bath and wash water.”

My former landlord asked me why I used to keep 10 buckets full of water in my room. One, it helps regulate heat. Two - water is by far the greatest need.


19 posted on 11/02/2012 2:44:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: DemforBush
Heck, I dropped about 40 bucks for two kits that let me fill, for lack of a better word, a bathtub-sized bag with water, seal it, and then install a hand-pump on top (comes with the kit).

Called a WaterBob, each one stores ~100 gallons.

CheaperThanDirt still has them at the price I bought: 19.95 each plus shipping. . .

20 posted on 11/02/2012 2:44:32 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: MrNeutron1962

We can’t have generators or gas grills at NJ apartments so pardon me for not having any sympathy for your situation.
Just saying.


21 posted on 11/02/2012 3:04:12 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: GlockThe Vote
G'morning GV .. hope you're warm enough and not hungry.
I'm not much for prayers anymore, but if that word can be used for keeping folks in mind with best wishes for 'em, then consider yourself prayed for  :-)
Here's hoping today brings you and our other FReeps in that mess some good news and relief.
22 posted on 11/02/2012 3:05:00 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

Scavenging for gas as I type.


23 posted on 11/02/2012 3:25:14 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Morris70

It strikes me that government actions are exacerbating the problems.

Kinda hard to cook with no fuel source.

Kinda hard to buy gas when the purchase of it is restricted and regulated by some law.

Certainly sympathize....


24 posted on 11/02/2012 3:30:20 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: Biggirl

I’m hearing noises that the whole area is very, very short on gasoline and diesel because the refinery in NJ got taken out, and will be out for 6-8 weeks. It’s not over for you guys yet. Conserve fuel, have a plan.


25 posted on 11/02/2012 3:31:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Kartographer
I heard a women on Fox News this morning from Jersey on a screed about the Stimulus Money wasn't used for Grid Infrastructure. If more are thinking like her, how do they vote if they have the fuel to get their...
26 posted on 11/02/2012 3:37:52 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Adder

Just pay someone who doesn’t need gas to buy some.
Capitalism. It’s a good thing.


27 posted on 11/02/2012 3:43:40 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: GlockThe Vote
Scavenging for gas as I type.

If you're from NJ, blame the unions, they turned away non-union electrical repair crews from Alabama, wouldn't let them work.

Where is the removal of "red tape" when help comes, the union rules, and the average citizen gets screwed.

28 posted on 11/02/2012 3:44:07 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Adder

Just pay someone who doesn’t need gas to buy some.
Capitalism. It’s a good thing.


29 posted on 11/02/2012 3:44:40 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: Kartographer

Within 3 days after Katrina, Bush’s admin had rescued 20,000 people from flooded neighborhoods

Within 5 days, they evacuated 40,000 people from New Orleans

Just sayin.


30 posted on 11/02/2012 3:45:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Kartographer
New Jersey Is Running Out Of Gasoline And Police Are On Hand
31 posted on 11/02/2012 3:46:29 AM PDT by blam
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To: Nailbiter

This is not a politically corect post, but it needs to be said.

I was out of power for 3 weeks after Hurricane Isabel. It wasn’t much fun, but workers were going around the clock and everyone understood. What I can’t seem to wrap my arms around is why New Yorkers just can’t seem to handle it. I thought they were suppose to be tough.


32 posted on 11/02/2012 3:49:48 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Kartographer
Shortages of food and fuel? This is an emergency. The government had better swing into action fast, before gougers and profiteers take over.

We need to deploy a minimum of 10,000 government inspectors backed by a similar number number of government lawyers to make sure prices are rolled back to a baseline level, as established by a new, comprehensive federal regulation that will developed over the weekend and published Monday, setting maximum allowable prices, profit levels, hours of operations, Davis Bacon and Buy American standards for all products going into the affected regions, and delivery preferences for majority minority and socially disadvantaged areas.

We would not want to impede ongoing relief efforts, but all businesses should be on notice that the new regulations will be retroactive to the week before the storm. All records must be kept and submitted to the Emergency Relief Price Board, and all businesses must be prepared justify their decisions or face treble damanges.

Only then can we be confident that the recovery will be fair.

33 posted on 11/02/2012 3:51:00 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: USS Alaska
"If you're from NJ, blame the unions, they turned away non-union electrical repair crews from Alabama, wouldn't let them work. "

No kidding.

These crews from the Gulf south know how to fix these problems in their sleep.

Roll Tide.

34 posted on 11/02/2012 3:51:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: FreedomPoster

I’ve seen a number of the smaller, heating oil home delivery trucks
running south on 301 in Southern Md. and Virginia. They are from
New York and Connecticut. Guessing none available in bulk in
Baltimore or Philly. Probably going all the way to Norfolk.


35 posted on 11/02/2012 3:52:04 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: FreedomPoster

Hopefully the refinery is just without power or slight damage. The power crews will go there first. Not for you per se but because they must have fuel to get their restoration work done. Based on all the crews that left here in the south, I am betting power will be restored within a week.


36 posted on 11/02/2012 3:54:10 AM PDT by rlbedfor
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To: USS Alaska
Nonunion Alabama (Electric Utility) crews turned away from Sandy recovery
37 posted on 11/02/2012 3:56:40 AM PDT by blam
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To: sphinx

The lack of government intervention is purposeful. Why? So they have an excuse to swoop in last minute and postpone the election.


38 posted on 11/02/2012 3:59:44 AM PDT by rintense
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To: USS Alaska

Do you have details on that? Is it in any linkable news reports?

That needs to be here on FR and to be trumpeted far and wide, but we need something more than “some guy told me”.

The Southern crews know their stuff, they do this all the time after hurricanes.


39 posted on 11/02/2012 4:05:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: rintense

No, that will not happen. Even post disater-wise, polling places have voting machines that do run on batteries or that the places will be move.


40 posted on 11/02/2012 4:07:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: wolfman23601

The thing of it is that, it is more talk than not. Northeasterners are more or less not as used to handling “weather issues” than those from other parts of the country.


41 posted on 11/02/2012 4:11:25 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: FreedomPoster

Could it be because of the issue of “right to work states?”

At least in CT, their help is very, very much appriciated.


42 posted on 11/02/2012 4:13:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: blam

From AL?

You got a winning college football team. I watch their games as much as possible. Roll tide.


43 posted on 11/02/2012 4:16:33 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: USS Alaska; blam

Ignore that request in #39; blam has me covered.


44 posted on 11/02/2012 4:19:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Biggirl
"From AL?"

Yes, on the coast.

45 posted on 11/02/2012 4:25:25 AM PDT by blam
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To: FreedomPoster

Crews are on their way, problem will be solved much, much more quickly.


46 posted on 11/02/2012 4:32:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
This Depressing NBC Segment On Staten Island Could Change The Way The World Sees Hurricane Sandy
47 posted on 11/02/2012 4:34:17 AM PDT by blam
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To: Morris70

Good idea. Provided your contract employee doesn’t take your money and run...

I was referring to the post that said apartment dwellers in NJ can’t have grills...

I also heard that it was illegal to buy gas from an out of state supplier...that had to be waived by Christie.

IOW, big gummint is in the way of folks working stuff out...


48 posted on 11/02/2012 4:42:02 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: Kartographer
Drudge states that people are eating out of dumpsters on Staten Island. Were is Shep Smith's round the clock coverage as he cried and his mascara was running?
49 posted on 11/02/2012 4:45:36 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Biggirl

What? Are you serious? We get it all here in the northeast. I’ve seen tornadoes, blizzards, hurricanes, multi-year droughts, ice storms even an earthquake. You know not of what you speak. Until very recently, the highest non-tornadic winds on earth were recorded here in New England. In 2010 I had ten foot snow drifts in my driveway with sub zero temperatures. I’ve seen high temps exceed 105 degrees in the summer.

Don’t confuse the northeast with five boroughs in south east New York.


50 posted on 11/02/2012 4:46:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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