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"It’s a world view that goes to basic premises. Conservatives (I am using these terms as they apply within the context of modern American politics – save the comments on how “conservatives” are really “classical liberals”) hold a tragic world view. There are iron laws of human nature that don’t change. In contrast, liberals hold an idealized view, one where man can change his essential nature, where he can be perfected.

But this requires a rejection of the world as it is in favor of a world as it can (they believe) be. This leads to the conservative critique that liberals ignore reality and base their policies on feelings. But that is a natural consequence of an ideology concerned not with how man and the world are, but with what they might be transformed – “fundamentally transformed,” to quote a well-known liberal – into.

Now, let’s apply this to the first two seasons of "The Walking Dead." Most of the problems (both within the plot and with the show itself) were a result of characters denying the reality of their situation. Characters focused energy arguing over their petty emotional conflicts like they were back in the suburbs and not in an entirely changed world. Their denial of reality manifested in their rank stupidity – my favorite example was their deciding to gather around a campfire facing inward with no security, like they were going to toast up some s’mores...."

1 posted on 10/22/2012 3:00:17 PM PDT by djone
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Gotta figure, in a societal collapse, survival doesn’t leave much room for peace, love, and understanding.


2 posted on 10/22/2012 3:05:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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Dale was the liberal conscience of the show, and he was remarkably wrong in season two when it came to the prisoner they had in captivity. It was Shane that took care of that issue. And Shane was often characterized as being in the wrong, or at least the home of dubious strategies.

Walking Dead isn’t going conservative. The indictment of conservatives will come with the Governor storyline.


3 posted on 10/22/2012 3:14:06 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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with the demise of Dale and Shane, there is no longer any moral/ethical diametric opposition or any underlying power struggle undermining Rick’s leadership, there is only Rick’s way and the highway. Given his newly acquired unquestionable unity of command, the group has developed into what they should have been all along, the cure to a disease, a killer T cell in a world of infection. I’m gonna watch last night’s episode in about five minutes. I can’t wait. This show is awesome.


8 posted on 10/22/2012 3:19:30 PM PDT by RC one
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I couldn’t stand all the lefty propaganda and quit watching, but if they have come to their senses, I’ll be back.


9 posted on 10/22/2012 3:20:42 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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I judge the characters on the show by how much their stupid personal issues interfere with the action.

On that scale, Dale, with his whingy moral diatribes, was the absolute worst. I cheered when he died.

The hillbilly hunter guy is the best, though they gave him some annoying touchy-feely moments last year that almost made me dislike him too. And they need to stop with the almost romance between him and the old lesbian haircut chick.

They can get rid of Lori anytime now. Rick is schitzo - but better when he's dark.

I like the black chick with neutralized zombie sidekicks. She's all action! More her, please.

10 posted on 10/22/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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love that show and I think it captures how one in that sort of life has to be.

The tree hugging, anti gun view would be gone in a heartbeat if the world came to sort of an end.

Dog eats dog and you stay with those you trust.

Oh and I think the redneck, forget his name now is brilliant and by far my best charcater, if TSHTF then he is the kind of guy I want beside me not some pansy, tutu fairy girlie boy/man.


12 posted on 10/22/2012 3:26:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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I never saw liberal platitudes. Yes some characters had a liberal bent, but that’s reality, there will be some liberals that survive a crisis, and these characters generally wound up wrong. If they could have negotiated with the zombies that would have been liberal platitudes. In the show though they generally found out being nice didn’t work and the man of God was right.


14 posted on 10/22/2012 3:28:41 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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I have never forgiven AMC for cancelling Rubicon, but I have started watching WD again. Norman Reedus Seriously Rocks. And can I say that Rick is saddled with the dumbest most faithless wife in the zombie world. His kid was also an annoyance last season but seems to have found a sense of self this season to the point where I think even he finds his mother faithless and dumb.


16 posted on 10/22/2012 3:29:46 PM PDT by mancini
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The only episode I saw was the one where there was the cliche Conservative White Supremacist and the self righteous angry black man. Of course they left the white guy to die.

I won’t be watching another episode anytime soon.


17 posted on 10/22/2012 3:31:07 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I call BS. If the author thought the 1st 2 seasons were sooo bad why’s he sticking around for a third?

Also I’m glad I can enjoy a zombie flic without seeing politics in ever frame. Sheeesh it’s a show about the Zombie Apocalypse. not Meet the Press.


21 posted on 10/22/2012 3:38:03 PM PDT by Blackirish
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Great show. The only one I watch with any regularity. A reminder that - and I’m sure it’s a draw to people who understand that - It’s up to us to make our way. Life can seem unfair. Get it done, anyways.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 3:38:53 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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In the season 3 webisode sequence “cold storage” they made a flag mounted conservative out to be an evil rapist backstabber. The writers may be forced to have their characters follow a conservative philosophy for now but I’m sure a liberal wrapper will be put around it in later episodes.

The propagandists of today are adept at co-opting conservative wisdom and making the sheeple think it is what the left stands for and the right is against.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 3:44:21 PM PDT by Teflonic
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I don’t understand the criticism of the second season, though, to be fair, I watched it uninterrupted on Netflix, so I didn’t mind the “zombie breaks.” One scene in particular at the end of “Nebraska” (the one in the bar at the end—you know what I’m talking about) was one of the best scenes I’ve seen in a show in a long time. The writers were obviously channeling Quentin Tarantino and everyone involved did a fantastic job.

As to Dale...I don’t know. He wasn’t without a point regarding their prisoner, but the “let him go” folks did keep conveniently forgetting that his buddies would all over them in no time. It kinda sucked when he died; I liked him for the most part.

If Shane had been a bit more controlled, then he would’ve been a great “dirty jobs” kind of guy to have around. A real waste.


28 posted on 10/22/2012 3:50:05 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Daryl is my favorite character....living in reality and self sufficient.

Lori has got to go...it will be interesting to see if her fears about her baby come true. :)

The Walking Dead is one of my guilty pleasures


29 posted on 10/22/2012 3:51:38 PM PDT by free-n-TX
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What I find amusing about the whole Zombie thing going on now.
Liberals I know are always the ones going to Zombie walks, dressing up and acting like zombies (all in good fun).
Conservatives are the ones always playing out the Zombie Apocalypse game playing the survivors.

Seems kind of fitting.


30 posted on 10/22/2012 3:52:33 PM PDT by mnehring
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Oh Lordy...you hit the zing button!
Love, love, love WD...and yes, the issues contemplated in the show: survival, misplaced compassion, life, ethics, principal, leadership, decision making when not popular, use of weapons even by a kid who deserves to learn how to protect himself, wife beating,etc. This show is a thinking person’s show, kind of like “Lost”, that really makes you wonder what you would do to survive. Along with great characters and a machete to the head of a bad guy every now and then...great TV and I don’t watch much.


32 posted on 10/22/2012 3:53:43 PM PDT by matginzac
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There was a nine point buck in my yard that had a good chance of being a walking dead chunk of meat and onto the BBQ pit today. If ONLY we did not live in the city limits...... Bow season is open here. To heck with movies, I intend to stay alive.


34 posted on 10/22/2012 3:55:34 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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Yeah. Last night, scumbag inmate throws walker on Rick. Rick says “Sh*t happens” then throws machete in Scumbag’s brainpan.

Yeah. No long discussions.


40 posted on 10/22/2012 4:10:57 PM PDT by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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It’s ironic that the show would have had a liberal leaning to it, since, the “good guys”, meaning, the undead, spent most of the show killing the dead, who, as we all know, tend to be liberal voters. That would make the show very politically incorrect towards that major liberal constituency.


41 posted on 10/22/2012 4:12:34 PM PDT by adorno
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liberals see man and the world from the ideology in their own minds.

conservatives see man and the world as they actually exist.


44 posted on 10/22/2012 4:18:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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