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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD, VOLUME 39, SEPTEMBER 28, 2012
Free Republic | Sept. 28, 2012 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/28/2012 10:17:11 AM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


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Greetings from Missouri. We got more rain this week, along with hail. Perennials are doing great. Lemons are starting to turn yellow. Finally got one tomato that was a nice blush. Picked it to let it finish ripening indoors away from squirrels. Will eat it today for dinner salad.

Hope you are all doing well. Has anyone heard from JADB? Hope she is OK.

Have a great weekend, God Bless.

1 posted on 09/28/2012 10:17:21 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 09/28/2012 10:20:18 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to your ping list. Thank you!


3 posted on 09/28/2012 10:22:23 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: greeneyes

Our organic garden is winding down a bit with the cooler nights here. We still have some turnip greens, lots of banana peppers, okra, a few tomatoes still hanging in there, a few small watermelons.


4 posted on 09/28/2012 10:22:50 AM PDT by Twinkie (IT'S THE OBAMA ECONOMY, ZIPPY!!)
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To: greeneyes

Please add me to your ping list. Thank you!


5 posted on 09/28/2012 10:27:02 AM PDT by tiger
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To: danamco; Ellendra; JustaDumbBlonde

danamco, You have been added.

Ellendra, and JDAB, FYI update for your lists.


6 posted on 09/28/2012 10:27:06 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Twinkie

OOOH, yah, my little melons are struggling now that cooler nights are here.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 10:28:57 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tiger; Ellendra; JustaDumbBlonde

tiger, you have been added to my list.

Ellendra and JADB, here’s another name to update your lists.


8 posted on 09/28/2012 10:31:25 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

There is much needed rain due this evening.

Just came in from getting the dogs out of the garden. They somehow managed to get in there as the wire was still on the latch but they were after something big time. They tore up the asparagus and everything around it. I don’t know what it was but suspect it was a snake since they had their noses on the ground.... I hate snakes! I guess it’s a good thing I didn’t water this morning. Maybe I shouldn’t be too mad at them.

Something ate all the spinach a couple weeks ago and it’s not coming back. I thought the cooler temps (anything below 100) would help the tomatoes but they still aren’t producing much of anything. It’s been a very disappointing season.


9 posted on 09/28/2012 10:39:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: greeneyes

It is getting cold here in the Colorado Rockies. Got down to 34F last night. Not long before the snow is flying.


10 posted on 09/28/2012 10:46:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: greeneyes

Not much to say about our fall garden except that everything is growing. I am very happy with my ghost pepper sprouts, though. I put them in 4’ pots this week and started feeding them with adult plant food instead of the 1-1-1 fish emulsion.


11 posted on 09/28/2012 10:50:51 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: MtnClimber

We’re coming to your neighborhood on the week of Oct 6 for some R & R. Have the trees already changed colors?


12 posted on 09/28/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: bgill

I agree. Very disappointing crop this year.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

In my yard about 1/2 of the aspens are bright yellow and 1/2 are just starting to change. There should be good fall colors for you!


14 posted on 09/28/2012 11:04:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: MtnClimber

We got down to the 40’s which is kinda cool for our area. You sure have a short season.


15 posted on 09/28/2012 11:04:50 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

We are still winding down on the summer garden. I have some lettuce and herbs ready to harvest for fall. It is really time for the winter lettuce/garden. Winter Wheat will be sometime after mid October.


16 posted on 09/28/2012 11:07:04 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MtnClimber

We were there last year when the aspens were golden. It was a beautiful time to be there. We are low-bucking it this time. We had wanted to rent a Jeep to go more places than a car will go. Maybe in the spring...


17 posted on 09/28/2012 11:11:26 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: greeneyes

The season here sure is short. The time between frosts is 90-120 days. From “The Gilpin County Primer”, which can be found in a web search, is this description of living here: “The elevation ranges from 1 1/3 up to
2 1/2 miles and the 13 days of summer are followed by a long, long winter...forget the three
days of spring or fall. It takes effort, tenacity, a sense of humor and some preparation to enjoy
living in rural Gilpin County. Folks who like it up here often consider city conveniences and
amenities to be nuisances or worse. Some new residents only see a wonderful, idyllic, rural,
summer mountain setting. So, they may be shocked a bit later when a bear destroys the BBQ
grill on the deck, deer munch the marigolds, a coyote lunches on the cat, and the driveway
disappears under 52 inches of snow...then, they become disenchanted and expect someone else
to “do something” about it.” We had a bear on the deck about a week ago.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 11:14:23 AM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: greeneyes

We have never planted a second crop, but we had some squash seeds, so in they went. We may not get anything, but if we do, great. We planted some collards but didn’t have many come up, wife says she will plant more tomorrow. Being transplanted southerners, we love collards, I could have them three time per week.


19 posted on 09/28/2012 11:18:02 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: MtnClimber
LOL. I'll never forget our first trip to Yellow Stone Park when I was 13. It was June and the roads were banked by several feet of snow.

Right out side Cody Wyoming we encountered golf ball size hail about a foot deep, and had to pull into a roadside park for overnight.

20 posted on 09/28/2012 11:38:21 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

I do intend to plant that winter garden, but other issues keep intruding on my best intentions.LOL


21 posted on 09/28/2012 11:40:51 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
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Our ghost pepper babies. Thanks again to Oshkalaboomboom.

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A hot banana pepper.

22 posted on 09/28/2012 11:56:09 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: greeneyes

I just had to try out my “new” pawn shop camera.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 11:58:20 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

Love the pictures, but I am jealous. The few peppers I have are about the size of a pewee marble.


24 posted on 09/28/2012 11:58:27 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

This is the first time that we have had any luck with peppers. A soil test and the resulting amendments really made a difference in the peppers this year. We even had some green and red bell peppers, but not many.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 12:04:39 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: greeneyes

Got the garden dug up and tilled this week. I planted turnips, broccoli, cauliflower, onions, garlic, shallots and two types of leaf lettuce. May get heavy rains here later tonight and tomorrow.

I actually tilled the garden after I dug it with a fork and noticed a lack of earthworms. I have my compost piles from mowing the yard getting ready to bring back to the garden in nearby vacant lots.


26 posted on 09/28/2012 12:17:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: greeneyes
Greetings from my organic garden in the San Joaquin Valley, CA, where the motto is " Everything grows, when the water flows". Lots of warm dry weather here. Here is a photo I took of this morning's harvest. Lots of fab eggplant, tomatoes, jalapenoes and other hot peppers, herbs, limesand lots of baby spring lettuce. I'm done canning all the elberta peaches and white nectarines. Oranges, lemons and tangelos come in next month.>p>
27 posted on 09/28/2012 1:34:09 PM PDT by BigFinn (BigHat wisdom: Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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To: greeneyes
I'll be digging up sweet potatoes soon.

Pretty much all, like six or seven, of my bananas decided to bear at the same time. That was certainly not the plan.

Some of my winter tomatoes, which should hang down and cover the dock rail in a couple weeks, are just starting to produce.

Last year I tried a lot of stuff over the winter. This year, I'm going to stick to the stuff I like best, like broccoli

and cauliflower

and lettuce

and spinach. Maybe I should plant some.

28 posted on 09/28/2012 2:06:34 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Yeh, that dry weather we had this summer resulted in the same thing here. Not an earth worm to be found so far guess they are really really deep down.


29 posted on 09/28/2012 2:07:20 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: BigFinn

Gosh, those pics all look beautiful. You do have a great climate as long as you have the water.


30 posted on 09/28/2012 2:10:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: BigFinn

I lived in western FResno county from 1933 to 1954 and wells were shallow enough to bring up water with old pitcher pump. I like your photo very much...


31 posted on 09/28/2012 4:33:31 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Darth Reardon

Thanks for posting your photos. Please excuse my ignorance re: container gardening. Do the tomato plants remain at a size commensurate w/the containers? How many heads of cabbage can you get from one container (e.g., do you have multiple cabbage plant containers?). Same way for lettuce?

We planted a flat of tomatoes from the FFA plant sale in late May, and they’re huge now. How long are your winter tomato plants viable?


32 posted on 09/28/2012 5:46:12 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: greeneyes

JADB’s last post was a while ago. Does she usually tell anyone when she’ll be gone for a while? I PM’d her a note of appreciation re: her information on the Excalibur dehydrator (we got one about a week and a half ago and have used it constantly—we made watermelon leather and canteloupe chips as well as lots of other garden experiments.) I hope she’s OK, too.


33 posted on 09/28/2012 5:52:35 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: BigFinn

Beautiful photo! How do you plan to preserve the citrus? What’s the plant at the 12 o’clock position? I’m lusting after your eggplants.


34 posted on 09/28/2012 5:59:40 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve sliced up some of the banana peppers, seeds and all; put them in the dehydrator and dried them to go in soups and stews this winter. Froze some of them whole; also fixed a few in vinegar. I have to use as many shortcuts as possible, because I’m not really able to do a lot of canning and pickling now.


35 posted on 09/28/2012 6:39:15 PM PDT by Twinkie (IT'S THE OBAMA ECONOMY, ZIPPY!!)
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To: greeneyes
The last picking of this years Strawberry crop and this 1 1/2 gallon was turned into pulp and frozen for jam later…

Now we remove the 2 year old plants and renovate the area for the new Garlic crop going in soon…

This bed is 12' X 12' and produced almost 15 gallons of berries this year alone.

36 posted on 09/28/2012 9:03:10 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: greeneyes
Diva salad cucumbers are in full production…


37 posted on 09/28/2012 9:15:00 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender; Darth Reardon; BigFinn; rightly_dividing
Thanks for all the pictures! It's great to see what folks are doing and the pictures surely brighten up the thread! :-)
38 posted on 09/29/2012 5:28:45 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Silentgypsy
Those tomatoes in containers are an offshoot of my hydroponic system. I suspect if they were growing in soil, they'd probably be limited in size, but with the hydroponics I'm pretty much just limited by how much room there is for the roots.

These tomatoes, in the main "stacker" hydroponic system, are about two weeks older.

Each of those square pots sits at a 45 degree offset from the pots above and below, so each level has four exposed corners you can grow stuff in. Nutrient rich water is pumped into the top pot three times per day, and filters down through the growing medium and then through the holes in the bottom of each pot.

Cabbage is one of the things I tried last winter and didn't have much luck with.

My winter tomatoes will go until the cold gets them, or more likely until it is time to plant new ones in the spring (Feb). Last "winter" was really mild and I brought them inside a couple times, though I probably didn't really need to.

39 posted on 09/29/2012 6:09:00 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Darth Reardon

Wow! I’d love to try hydroponics.


40 posted on 09/29/2012 8:29:58 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: greeneyes

I picked up some leaves that had blown into a corner and there were several earthworms in the pile. I put them into the garden. I guess the rain brought them back close to the surface.


41 posted on 09/29/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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Hyacinth Bean Vine growing on the fence


Bloom detail


Seed pods forming

The vines will be good until the first frost and then that will be the end of them :-(

42 posted on 09/29/2012 11:01:29 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Darth Reardon
How do you test and add nutrients to the water?
I tried aquaponics this year, and all I managed to do was grow long and leggy tomato plants, and kill the goldfish in the pond. Mine are nowhere as full as yours.

Also, what do you use to fertilize the banana plants in your picture upthread?

43 posted on 09/29/2012 2:11:33 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: greeneyes
The second season garden is planted with cool weather plants (collard, cabbage, carrot, radish, beets, pumpkin) and they are sprouting and growing like crazy. The okra, peppers and peanut plants from this summers' planting are still growing and producing. I expect to harvest the peanuts soon though.

We had a welcome respite from the heat in the form of about 3" of rain last night in the Hill Country. Today's temps are in the lower 80's and humid. It'll be time to gas up the mower and mow again. All this rain causes the grass to grow.

44 posted on 09/29/2012 2:18:22 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Those are beautiful! Do they produce edible beans too boot?


45 posted on 09/29/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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There are mixed opinions on whether edible or not. Mostly I’ve seen you can eat them if you cook the beans well - here’s another take on it:

“Practically all parts of the plant are edible, although the seeds are slightly toxic and need to be cooked well in two washes of water before they should be considered edible.”

http://www.easybloom.com/plantlibrary/plant/ornamental-hyacinth-bean-vine-1


46 posted on 09/29/2012 3:01:32 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Sarajevo

The hydroponics is not a closed system, so I don’t have to do any testing. I have about a 30 gallon reservoir that I fill about once a week from my rain water capture. Nutrients I keep pre-mixed in two 5 gallon buckets. I add about 3 cups of each of the nutrients when I fill the reservoir.

I’m playing with aquaponics in an aquarium, but I need more fish. The ammonia levels have never gotten high enough to measure.

The bananas just get like a 10-10-10 once a month. I have no idea what they actually need. Oh, and a good bit of compost.


47 posted on 09/29/2012 3:05:11 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: MissMagnolia

Interesting. Some people of Mediterranean decent have to be careful with Fava Beans and must follow the same regimen when cooking them...


48 posted on 09/29/2012 5:17:00 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Darth Reardon

Great info. Thank you!


49 posted on 09/29/2012 8:12:18 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Well, No she doesn’t, but it seems to me it has been longer than usual this time, but it is also harvest time in many ways - so I don’t know what to think.


50 posted on 09/30/2012 5:55:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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