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Are skewed poll numbers a strategy to make massive voter fraud more plausible?
vanity ^ | 9/22/2012 | GunsAndBibles

Posted on 09/22/2012 5:47:05 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles

Naw, couldn't be...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; deadvoters; vanity; voterfraud

1 posted on 09/22/2012 5:47:09 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles
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To: GunsAndBibles

There is that.

But I think the ba$tards really enjoy lying.


2 posted on 09/22/2012 5:51:02 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: GunsAndBibles

What it is is laying the groundwork for later challenging the results and more to the point, providing cover for whipping up dissent and riots.

“How can Romney have won by 1-5-10-15 points? All the polls had him losing for MONTHS?!?!?!?! The Repubs stole the election cuz they are Racists and hate BLACK PEOPLE and THIS PROVES THEY WON BY FRAUD!!!”

Bank on it.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 5:51:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I think you’re right.


4 posted on 09/22/2012 5:52:04 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: reasonisfaith

Why else would the media sacrifice themselves unless they knew what the endgame was?

They know he’s gonna lose and yet they are totally denying it. So they have to set the stage for their continued ‘influence’. If they deligitimize the election and set the country on fire, there is a chance they retain their seats of power. If Romney wins and actually takes the helm, they have a problem.

So they pretty much HAVE to start a riot.

And it is going to get VERY ugly.


5 posted on 09/22/2012 5:57:18 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Not sure. The elite media lives in the urban areas. They do not rate security. If the country goes up in flames, they & their families are going to be right in the middle of it.


6 posted on 09/22/2012 6:00:41 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

The libs doing the reporting on the ground aren’t that smart to realize that when their ideology tells them they are safe. Remember the raped reporttertte in Egypt?

And the power people HAVE security. I’m sure they are willing to break a few eggs to usher in utopia.


7 posted on 09/22/2012 6:03:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GunsAndBibles

When the majority of the polls are skewed for Obama to win and Romney Romney wins big there will be a call to invalidate the election.


8 posted on 09/22/2012 6:04:50 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: reformedliberal
They do not rate security. If the country goes up in flames, they & their families are going to be right in the middle of it.

I'd make a bet that the people that control media decisions DO have security. Their foot soldiers, not so much.

9 posted on 09/22/2012 6:05:33 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: reformedliberal

Side note. Think of all the Germans/Russians who followed the path to hell in the 30/40s.

Modern libs are their twins. Brainwashed ideologues.


10 posted on 09/22/2012 6:06:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mike Darancette

There is no mechanism to do that..........


11 posted on 09/22/2012 6:07:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Norm Lenhart

ya beat me to it!


12 posted on 09/22/2012 6:08:00 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Red Badger

Legally? No. Obamaly? Exec orders, a military filled with his people in/atop the Joint Chiefs/CIA/FBI/NSA and the MSM telling the people its OK is one that will work though.

Not for long...but it will work long enough for hell to start.


13 posted on 09/22/2012 6:09:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GunsAndBibles

Great minds and all that ;)


14 posted on 09/22/2012 6:10:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GunsAndBibles

I think it has far less to do with winning than with delegitimizing Pres Romney.


15 posted on 09/22/2012 6:14:45 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS
I think it has far less to do with winning than with delegitimizing Pres Romney.

I'm thinking that these oversampled Democrat polls will lend weight to Democrats stealing the "close" states, especially if that state has a Democrat Secretary of State. Remember Soros and his Secretary of State Project - "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

16 posted on 09/22/2012 6:22:49 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

I think it has more to do with keeping Republicans away from the polls. They think if they convince enough people that there is no point in voting, that Obama has already won(Which worked for them in 2008) that Obama will win easily. This is all a scam to make people sit at home and not vote. We cannot allow ourselves to fall for this BS. I bet that Romney has enough internal polling to show that he will win this election. The media needs people to sit this one out otherwise Obama will lose and they know it


17 posted on 09/22/2012 6:24:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GunsAndBibles
Elections are controlled by the states. The Florida legislature was prepared to declare the electoral votes to Bush if Gore's efforts to run out the clock would have prevented the Florida electors from casting their votes by the Constitutional deadline.

I cannot think of anything to cause a SHTF event more than Obama having Holder and the DOJ try to stop multiple red states from doing their constitutional duty to elect Romney.

18 posted on 09/22/2012 6:25:19 PM PDT by AU72
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To: GunsAndBibles

Well OH, FL, and VA all have GOP governors and while I don’t know about the others, OH has a Republican Sec of State.


19 posted on 09/22/2012 6:28:09 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: GunsAndBibles

No.


20 posted on 09/22/2012 6:29:54 PM PDT by CAconservitive
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To: bigheadfred

Also, when Romney wins, they can cry voter fraud since the polls had shown BO had been ahead all this time and force another election until they get the results they want.


21 posted on 09/22/2012 6:32:38 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yup, that’s the obvious strategy. However, I tend to think a little more darkly. BTW, Reynolds absolutely makes the best aluminum foil. :-)


22 posted on 09/22/2012 6:32:45 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Norm Lenhart; GunsAndBibles

Sure, the bosses have security or are carrying, I agree. Likely have sent their families to the country for the duration. Also agree they don’t care about anything/anyone else.

How far do they get putting out a show if the staff, the techs, and assorted smaller fry can’t even get to work? Do the ferals spare the network buildings and the power grid because the bosses are willing to see sacrifices? I just saw where NYC is contemplating a $15 bridge toll. How many of the essential crafts for a TV production live in New Jersey?

It is all just unbelievable, to me. 60% have no faith in the media. Print media is in huge financial trouble. People are cancelling paid TV because they cannot afford it or simply cannot stand it. People that still have TV mute the ads, fast-forward them on DVR or leave the room. Movies are doing really badly for the first time in 50 years. And the geniuses that run the media are cool with further alienating the already alienated audience?

So their ideology forces them to ignore reality and they are then targets/victims, but they keep on promoting the ideology. I am not smart enough to understand this dynamic.


23 posted on 09/22/2012 6:32:49 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: GunsAndBibles
Are skewed poll numbers a strategy to make massive voter fraud more plausible?"

Does a bear $&!t in the woods?

24 posted on 09/22/2012 6:33:14 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: reformedliberal

All I can say is look to history. When Germany and the Soviets were getting hammered, the ideologues were right there Baghdad Bob style.

They braved the bombs and violence to spread the Gospel of their masters.

WHY should this be any different when the threat of evil GOP rule hangs over their heads and all the progress of the Obamian Utopia is on the line?

They have been programmed from kindergarten to bring in the Brave New World.


25 posted on 09/22/2012 6:37:01 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: reformedliberal

The statistic I saw, I believe it was today, was that ONLY 8% of the population implicitly trusts the media. You make some good points and raise a good question.


26 posted on 09/22/2012 6:38:02 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: LS

Janet Vestal Kelly is a GOPer (VA Sec of the Commonwealth)


27 posted on 09/22/2012 6:39:59 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I think Romney has a 10 point lead. Be pretty hard for them to do anything but cry.


28 posted on 09/22/2012 6:40:26 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: GunsAndBibles

Polls are close to make a Rodney win seam unfair... Voter is laws will ne blamed and the usual racist charges will be levied.... This will be the foundation for unseating Rodney in 2012 when the economy should begin to turn according to the cyclical nature of the markets.. this will hive the winner of the 2016 elections the bragging rights that they built the economy...

And don’t think that Rodney will be able to fix the economy because he won’t... The fed has baked in continued malaise with inflation for the next 4 years min.... And don’t think that the now government owned banks and industry will help.... The nationalized banks will play there stock of foreclosed homes to further suffocate and consolidate the markets... (With help from the fed). Etc.


29 posted on 09/22/2012 6:40:52 PM PDT by Vlaxo
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To: Norm Lenhart

“What it is is laying the groundwork for later challenging the results and more to the point, providing cover for whipping up dissent and riots.”

Yes, and they will use the polls to justify “Poll Tax Law” law suits because as of everyone knows (sarc) asking voters for ID is racist!


30 posted on 09/22/2012 6:41:20 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: Perdogg

Tomorrow’s Gallup is tied @ 47%.


31 posted on 09/22/2012 6:41:52 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: CAconservitive

So you’re a journalist? BTW, it’s spelled CONSERVATIVE


32 posted on 09/22/2012 6:42:21 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: reformedliberal

“The elite media lives in the urban areas. They do not rate security. If the country goes up in flames, they & their families are going to be right in the middle of it.”

There really is a silver lining behind every dark cloud.


33 posted on 09/22/2012 6:44:43 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Vlaxo

I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how good of a turnaround artist Romney is. I know that toward the end of Reagan’s first term there was a lot of political pressure on him to intervene in the economy for perceived short term benefits, yet he resisted and continued with non-interventionist economic policy. I hope Romney is at least as good as Reagan. He certainly should understand the markets. One can hope.


34 posted on 09/22/2012 6:51:22 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Salamander

LOL!!!


35 posted on 09/22/2012 6:52:32 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Does a bear **it in the woods?


36 posted on 09/22/2012 6:56:26 PM PDT by SFRigger (It may be about time to water the tree of liberty again.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

what’s all that ammunition they’ve been buying for?


37 posted on 09/22/2012 7:06:33 PM PDT by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: Red Badger

There is no mechanism to legalize millions of illegal aliens either. If DOJ says we want to investigate they will.


38 posted on 09/22/2012 7:58:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: SFRigger

Yes, and..
Yes

The winner will be determined not by the number of votes cast, or the electoral votes, but by the electronic voting machines (that leave no paper trail) tabulated by the Geroge Soros company.

Enough said !


39 posted on 09/22/2012 8:10:47 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: Norm Lenhart

But there against Voter ID. Go figure.

Modern Liberalism is so full of contradictions, it should be like hitting the side of a barn...


40 posted on 09/22/2012 8:15:42 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: desertfreedom765

They were thinking ahead when they stopped teaching critical thinking and logic classes years ago in schools.

If one does not understand HOW to think critically/logically or analytically, one cannot be expected to do so. And that, point for point, explains what we see in the world today. Every major issue we face is caused by a person or people who think Gandalf will appear any day now, cast a spell and solve the problem.

My favorite example was an ex-coworker who argued with me that 1+1 could equal something other than 2 depending on the situation. He now works for a Dem state pol in Penn.


41 posted on 09/22/2012 8:27:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Regarding Electronic Voting Machines:

Nobody really uses them.

The winner is more likely to be determined by the appearance of tens of thousands of absentee and early ballots. In selected counties the "voter participation rate" will exceed 120 percent. Those places will see Democrat victories.

This is what already happened in Madison and Milwaulkee Wisconsin. Of course the Democrat "Get-out-the-fraudulent-vote" effort was insufficient there to win statewide. Part of the reason was that Democrats tended to believe their own propaganda and ignored the very much larger group of people that they were antagonizing.

They will double their efforts next time. If that does not work the lawsuits will start on the day after the election.

Living in a bubble of protection from the media, the entertainment industry, and the academic sector allows the Democrats to make potentially decisive mistakes from which they cannot recover.

42 posted on 09/22/2012 8:58:32 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I think the main reason is TEA is continuing to lie to the pollsters (and we should revise the 10 Commandments to include that exception) ... I think the RATS really WERE caught by surprise in Nov. 2010.


43 posted on 09/22/2012 9:30:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

I’m sure there’s some of that going on. I think they are out of ways to skew. If we are at the point (and obviusly we are) that the MSM has to go +15 weighting on pols to keep Obama in the lead, they are so far beyond deep poop that there is simply nowhere left to go.

By election day I fully expect to see +25 weighting and a media blitz excoriating anyone’s patriotism who questions it and Obama. This was their last non-violent chance and they blew it. Had they waited another decade pushing their liberal/socialism, enough old people who still think critically would have died off and the brainwashed youth from the 60s onward would have been totally coopted into the hive mentality.

But as many have said, they always overreach and they did...big time. They wanted too much too fast, elected an out and out communist who then ramrodded crap that the sheep couldn’t digest fast enough.

Which brings us to today.


44 posted on 09/22/2012 9:39:36 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: txhurl

YEP


45 posted on 09/22/2012 9:40:35 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

No, it’s not about voter fraud, primarily, it is about creating an impression of who’s the winner ahead of time, so those wanting to go with the winner will vote for the presumed winner, and some of those others will just give up and not vote at all.


46 posted on 09/22/2012 9:43:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: GunsAndBibles

yes


47 posted on 09/22/2012 10:20:23 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: GunsAndBibles

Do you feel the same about Rasmussen polls? I agree about Msnbc,CBS,NBC,ABC,But Rasmussen? He has the Liar in Chief ahead in PA by 51 to 39 ! What the Hell is in the water down there?


48 posted on 09/23/2012 5:40:49 AM PDT by ballplayer
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