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Domestic Total as of Mar. 25: $62,347,000 ($250 Million Box Office for John Carter by Monday)
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=johncarterofmars.htm ^ | boxofficemojo

Posted on 03/25/2012 1:52:53 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender

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Box office for John Carter will likely go to $250 million by Monday - See Link

In reviewing the numbers, one thing sticks out. There is a huge disparity between the film's domestic box office ($62 million) and its foreign box office ($172 million). I believe a large part of the discrepancy is attributable to a drop off in American young males going to watch movies at movie theatres.

The dirty little secret (which is scaring the hell out of Hollywood) is that it is now very easy to watch recently opened films on the internet without having to pay for them. And young males (risk takers that they are) are much more likely to watch movies this way than young females. As a result, action films that appeal to young males have been having a rough go of it in the past couple of years.

You may have also noticed that the action movies that are being put out often have a female as the lead or in a fighting role (e.g. The Thing, Hunger Games, Columbiana, Hanna). This is no accident. The studios are doing this because that is where the audience is right now.

And until Hollywood can figure out a way to end camcording of films (good luck with that) or begin to release films directly to the internet at reasonable prices, they can expect to continue to lose more and more of their audience to the internet.

1 posted on 03/25/2012 1:53:00 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

You can watch first run movies on the net? I had no idea. Why would anyone go to the rotten theaters if there is another option.


2 posted on 03/25/2012 1:59:02 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
And young males (risk takers that they are) are much more likely to watch movies this way than young females.

That's how I watched it.

3 posted on 03/25/2012 2:01:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

No, it was a poorly marketed film and a poorly chosen title.

I’m told that the movie is kinda good, if you can suspend a little belief.


4 posted on 03/25/2012 2:02:07 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Lazlo in PA

What is happening is that the films get recorded at theatres (often in Russia or the Middle East) and then get uploaded to upload services like megaupload (which recently got shutdown by the feds). The camcorder versions aren’t the greatest quality in the world but they are watchable and the sound is often pretty good because the people recording the movies plug into the jacks that are available at theatres for the hard-of-hearing.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 2:02:28 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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I won’t go to any movie where the waif girl survives huge guys and guns. In real life one on one there’s no contest. I can’t suspend the disbelief enough to buy that crap.


6 posted on 03/25/2012 2:02:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: kidd

It is vintage-era science fiction and frankly, a little outdated in the storyline, if they stayed true to the book.

I mean civil war soldier era (mixing wild west and mars wild creatures - especially given what real science we know about mars) - just can’t get over willful suspension of disbelief of most people now.


7 posted on 03/25/2012 2:05:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

“What is happening is that the films get recorded at theatres (often in Russia or the Middle East) and then get uploaded to upload services like megaupload (which recently got shutdown by the feds).”

Not only that: it’s available on the torrents. I can’t stand Cam versions but there were exceptions.

I had a cam version of Transformers and the uploader got blasted in the forums for not labeling it correctly as CAM. What the majority of the commenters did say was that the uploader fixed and muxed the audio and video that it “passed” the Cam title. I never even knew it was a Cam until a couple of heads right at the bottom of the screen stood up after the movie.


8 posted on 03/25/2012 2:09:27 PM PDT by max americana
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“No, it was a poorly marketed film and a poorly chosen title.....”
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I agree. My first image when hearing the title was one of Jimmy Carter in an Action movie (not an attractive or exciting image).


9 posted on 03/25/2012 2:11:24 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: max americana

There’s a mom/pop grocery on the EBT card side of the tracks in my town where if you know the right person you can buy a bootleg DVD of a first run movie for $5 within a week of it coming out.


10 posted on 03/25/2012 2:13:28 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: kidd

I saw John Carter and Hunger Games recently, and though I liked both, John Carter was a lot better.

Just the worst title in the history of movies is all, and poor marketing overall.


11 posted on 03/25/2012 2:13:51 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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It appears the early accounts of the film's demise were premature. By the time it clears the CD/VOD market, it will make money despite its $350m budget.

Haven't seen it---would like to---but I almost never go to a theater because of the rude people and the endless stream of trailers. I saw "Act of Valor" and there were at least six movie trailers and at least an equal number of TELEVISION trailers (!!)

12 posted on 03/25/2012 2:18:26 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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And until Hollywood can figure out a way to end camcording of films (good luck with that) or begin to release films directly to the internet at reasonable prices, they can expect to continue to lose more and more of their audience to the internet.

Hollywood needs to get up with modern times and restructure their outdated business model. This is 2012. Americans have 60" HDTVs and Dolby surround sound in their homes. Theaters will always be a place for dates and for teenagers to get away from home for a few hours but many of us older film-watchers prefer to wait for the DVD. It's time to get rid of that lag time between the theatrical release and the DVD. Release the film in theaters on a Friday and the following Tuesday release the special-edition, director's cut blu-ray with all the bells and whistles and on pay-per-view for $10.99. Four weeks later, release the bare-bones theatrical edition to Redbox. That way everyone can see the film while there's buzz about it. This might also help prop up the lackluster Academy Awards. As it is, it's hard to get excited about nominated films when most of them haven't been released on DVD prior to the telecast and, as such, viewers haven't had the chance to watch them.

13 posted on 03/25/2012 2:22:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Sssssss comes to mind as the worst movie title in memory.

I'll ditto the market aspect, though.

14 posted on 03/25/2012 2:23:58 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: vbmoneyspender

“the films get recorded at theatres”

The 3D messes that up.
I guess that’s why they did this in 3D.
Distracted from the story IMHO though.

Bad marketing. A Burroughs movie should have been marketed to Burroughs people too, not just the usual slack-jawed movie audience.


15 posted on 03/25/2012 2:27:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: kidd

It is really good and the humans are portrayed heroically too. Unlike Avatar


16 posted on 03/25/2012 2:27:55 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: LS
It is actually a pretty good movie - its got a 7 rating on IMDB from 23,000 users. I find IMDB's ratings to be pretty spot-on, particularly where there is a large sampling.
17 posted on 03/25/2012 2:30:09 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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MadSci Labs Presents: How to record 3D in 3D
18 posted on 03/25/2012 2:34:42 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: mrsmith
The 3D messes that up.
A simple polarizing filter on the camera lens will fix that problem.

Come to think of it, with two camcorders with properly-adjusted polarizing filters, you could capture the 3-D version as well.

19 posted on 03/25/2012 2:38:46 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Lazlo in PA
sure... i just watched part of the Hunger Games but it was so bad i turned it off
20 posted on 03/25/2012 2:40:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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