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Weekly Gardening Thread (Home Sweet Home) Vol. 8, February 24, 2012
Friday, February 24, 2012 | JustaDumbBlonde

Posted on 02/24/2012 7:48:38 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde

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Greetings from hot and sticky NE Louisiana! We set a record high yesterday at 89 degrees. I miss the mountains of Montana already. It averaged around 15 degrees while we were there and I was walking around in shirt sleeves. Without the extreme dampness, the cold is really comfortable.

I want to extend a big THANK YOU to Red Devil_232 and Ellendra for taking care of the thread in my absence. Y'all did wonderful work and I appreciate your efforts more than you will know. I had expected to be able to post the thread for the past 2 weeks, but things did not go as planned and the only internet access I had -- when I could get a signal -- was my smartphone. Trying to post a thread from that is just beyond my level of patience.

Most of you have healthy and happy plants started indoors by now. I am getting mine started this weekend, about 2 weeks later than I should have, and the anticipation is really exciting.

My short series on soil structure is coming along nicely, and I apologize that it is not ready to publish today. Structure is such an important part of growing a healthy plant. Now that vacation and some health issues are out of the way, I will be able to devote a bit more time to this endeavor that I love so much.

Let us know what you doing! I look forward to hearing from each and every one of you! Happy Gardening!

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The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


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Weekly Gardening Thread (Catalog Fever) Vol. 1 Jan 6, 2012
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Weekly Gardening Thread Vol. 3, January 20, 2012
Weekly Gardening Thread (U.S. Hardiness Zones) Supplemental Vol. 1
Weekly Gardening Thread (Soil Types) Vol. 4, January 27, 2012
Weekly Gardening Thread (Vacation) Vol. 5, February 03, 2012
Weekly Gardening Thread (Vacation) Vol. 6, February 10, 2012
Weekly Gardening Thread (Vacation?) Vol. 7, February 17, 2012

1 posted on 02/24/2012 7:48:48 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I’m already planting in the garden here in Las Vegas. Some Early Girl tomatoes and an egg plant. My tomatoes don’t produce in the hot summers, so I’m trying to get an early and late crop this year. Not a lot, just like twn plants.


2 posted on 02/24/2012 7:54:18 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Home - fun to go on vacation - great to be home!

Two raised beds planted + a trench of purple potatoes.

Eleven to go - waiting for post fear of frost - early March here in Charleston.

Took delivery of eight 55 gallon barrels yesterday - should make for a great rain collection system. $20 each = $15 delivery.

About to order some fruit trees and last orders of seeds.

Thanks for the great weekly gardening thread.

Garden on!


3 posted on 02/24/2012 7:55:12 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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4 posted on 02/24/2012 7:58:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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Mr sneakers got me a cold frame for Christmas. I don’t know if it’s too early or not, but we’re putting it out this weekend and planting a few things. Stuff like lettuce, brussels sprouts and cabbage. It’s February in western Pa and we will probably get some bad weather between now and April, but I can’t wait to get started! I might start some tomatoes indoors!


5 posted on 02/24/2012 7:58:36 AM PST by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Bring Spring on! This Season's Future Crop!
6 posted on 02/24/2012 7:59:21 AM PST by Sparky1776
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7 posted on 02/24/2012 7:59:33 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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8 posted on 02/24/2012 8:05:07 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
We were SUPPOSED to get up to 5 inches of snow today; the most snowfall this winter since the Halloween snowstorm of 2011. Nary a flake so far, and it looks like it will stay that way...precipitation is staying south. Bare ground on February 24th...LOL!

The wrath of G-d isn't always 'fire and brimstone'.

Broccoli, 'colored' cauliflower, and 'colored' peppers chugging right along...tomatoes going in over the next few days. As an experiment, I sowed lettuce seeds into one of those store 'clamshells' filled with 'Pro-Mix'. It is coming up just fine...we'll have fresh lettuce on the table in no time.

9 posted on 02/24/2012 8:05:41 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I have two very enthusiastic Bonnie ‘Tami G’ grape tomatoes in the whiskey barrel on the deck that already have set two fruit in a 10-fruit cluster, and two Bonnie Goliath that are doing the same thing.

Last years’ drought drove the deer to we lakefront people’s yards so I’m not risking ground plantings. It all has to grow in containers in the high winds on the deck. Not going to be a very experimental year, I need yields.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 8:06:11 AM PST by txhurl
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Glad to see that you ahd a great mountain vacation.

Back here in Teaxs, I had my soils anylasis translated to English for me and I am about to till the patch along with some nitro and calcium. The ext serv said it was luck that anything grew here last year! I had no nitrogen and low PH.

I have about 200 tomato babies about 2 1/2 --3in tall and a few hot chili peppers about an inch tall. I hope to supply all my neighbor gardeners with seedlings this year. I can only use about 10-12 plants myself. I got the tiller running the other day, so now its just me holding up the tilling, scheduled for tomorrow am.

11 posted on 02/24/2012 8:09:29 AM PST by rightly_dividing (You cannot put a gun rack in a Volt !)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

We’re supposedly in zone 6a, but that’s completely inaccurate. We should be listed as 5a. It makes ordering plants very difficult, because I’ve yet to find a company that will ship according to a zone 5a hardiness timetable.


12 posted on 02/24/2012 8:11:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Beautiful!


13 posted on 02/24/2012 8:12:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Welcome back!


14 posted on 02/24/2012 8:13:02 AM PST by left that other site
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Is that Burnt Orange you're wearin?

You NC/SC/VA people keep watch. Looks like wrath is coming your way.


15 posted on 02/24/2012 8:18:33 AM PST by txhurl
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yeaaahhhh...Glad to see this thread this morning!

We had a very warm day here in Middle Tennessee yesterday so I spent the entire day outside. I did some much needed cleaning in the garden and planted lettuce and kale.

I DO have a question. I would like to plant two hazelnut (filburt)bushes. What varieties would be best for Tennessee? Anyone know?


16 posted on 02/24/2012 8:19:17 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I am putting out the arugula, spinach, and kale this weekend. My garlics are starting to sprout. I have some good sized indoor rosemary, flat leaf parsley, and mint that I am going to try and transplant in about six weeks.


17 posted on 02/24/2012 8:20:47 AM PST by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Greetings from southern New Hampshire!

Our ducklings are growing and developing their tail feathers. We had a problem with one of the hens. She appeared to be in distress, unable to eat or drink and was noticably smaller than the other five. I held her while Barb gently massaged her throat. Then she fed her a vinigar/water solution from an eyedropper. Later, she was eating normally, but her crop was distended. Barb did a lookup on the web and then had be hold her again while she used a makeup spatula to put cat hairball medication in her bill. Chased it with the water solution again. The next morning, she was lively and normal. She seems to have caught up with the rest of her brood mates in size. They are now in the X-pen and are about 1/3 grown.

My Sears Craftsman GT5000 garden tractor is here! The mowing deck is enormous, and the Johnny Bucket and Plow is enroute via UPS! I am already thinking about an electric assist sleeve hitch for it to handle a box scraper and cultivator. The garden isn't going to know what hit it!

18 posted on 02/24/2012 8:21:05 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

doesn’t look like L’sianna! LOL

thanks for new thread & the extras you add to inform us. It is always good to see everyone’s input along the way.

Mild winter thus far (KNOCK ON WOOD) here in NE Ohio & I am very happy for that as I am heating only with space heaters this year (long story, but not uncommon)

We have had several mild days & I note the little first bulbs in bloom..snowdrops.. (and in the shade still piles of snow).

Going to simplify even more this year with plants. I have a lot of personnel and will just do some simple(reasonable) annuals & a few container tomatoes. Last year I think I spent more on veggie plants than the produce harvested. Lots of good farmer’s market & roadside stands to give reasonable food.


19 posted on 02/24/2012 8:23:12 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: txhurl
LOL! It is really more of a pumpkin orange, but I will offer a hearty Hook 'Em Horns anyway!!!

Wow, I can't believe that you have maters already. Color me green with envy.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 8:26:39 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: DollyCali

Between Cleveland and Akron. The wild chives are up. Had some on salmon last night. A delight!


21 posted on 02/24/2012 8:29:19 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Planted 40 starts the other day, a little early for my area of Ohio but couldn’t wait. So anxious for spring.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 8:29:47 AM PST by agrace
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I have some of the Clemson okra seeds soaking right now. They are from the package you sent me. Going to get an early indoor start.


23 posted on 02/24/2012 8:30:06 AM PST by MtnClimber (Tim Tebow will never be successful in the NFL - Leftist journalists who have sold their souls)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

We just got our seeds ordered this week and are impatiently awaiting their arrival. We’re fairly new to gardening and are praying we don’t mess this up! I’m in KC and am beginning to panic a bit about not having anything started. This year is going to be trial and error for us.

Does anyone here have any knowledge/advice on the 4-in-1 fruit trees? We were considering purchasing an apple tree that grows four different kinds of apples but are a bit leery. We’re here for a limited time so do want to purchase an older tree that is already producing fruit.


24 posted on 02/24/2012 8:31:32 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

We just got our seeds ordered this week and are impatiently awaiting their arrival. We’re fairly new to gardening and are praying we don’t mess this up! I’m in KC and am beginning to panic a bit about not having anything started. This year is going to be trial and error for us.

Does anyone here have any knowledge/advice on the 4-in-1 fruit trees? We were considering purchasing an apple tree that grows four different kinds of apples but are a bit leery. We’re here for a limited time so do want to purchase an older tree that is already producing fruit.


25 posted on 02/24/2012 8:33:49 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; Arrowhead1952

I am watching said ‘maters get pummelled by 30mph+ gusts out of the North. You, too, J?


26 posted on 02/24/2012 8:39:21 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Redleg Duke

Best part of all...it appears that you will be able to get all your work done without enduring the ‘traditional’ New Hampshire MUD season...no snow; it’s a BEAUTIFUL thing (for some of us)...


27 posted on 02/24/2012 8:43:31 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Welcome home!!!!

The weather on my tiny finger of the Virginia Eastern Shore is absolutely WHACKED. It’s unbelievable. It is actually warmer outside than it is in the house. It was 70 degrees at 10am and there is a strong probability for tornadoes this afternoon. It’s no wonder so many people I know are sick. There is no rhyme nor reason to this weather.


28 posted on 02/24/2012 8:46:39 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Got my second garden plot cleaned and tilled yesterday. I had already started some turnips and onions in part of it and they are doing great. I still have three parsley plants from last year.

My other garden has lettuce, shallots, spinach that are producing well, I need to cut the lettuce soon. I have several garlic plants that are going strong.

The three inch rain sure helped ground moisture but not the lakes. Lake Travis - our main water source - is over 50 feet low and has less than 35% capacity.


29 posted on 02/24/2012 8:53:47 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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Hi txhurl, but what does that map mean for me? I’m in the green section in Massachusetts.


30 posted on 02/24/2012 8:57:12 AM PST by Sparky1776
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31 posted on 02/24/2012 8:58:32 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Gabz

Tornadoes this afternoon! Isn’t this rather early for that? Holy cow.


32 posted on 02/24/2012 8:59:22 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sparky1776

Looks to me as though you might be in for some thunderstorms.


33 posted on 02/24/2012 9:00:06 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

OK, what I’m doing - fist time gardener here though I did work on a vegetable farm as a teenager for a couple of summers. I picked up a bunch of seeds this week to start indoors mid / late March for mid May planting.

We’re located on the South Shore south of Boston, newly zoned 6B but will stick to the 6A schedule. I’ll be ordering deer & orchard fencing tomorrow and might even start putting up some posts this weekend to keep the deer out.


34 posted on 02/24/2012 9:05:41 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Lovely sunshine but windy and very cold yesterday and today my cold has moved to my chest and my enthusiasm has gone south. Humboldt Bay NW Calif 100 miles south of Oregon.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 9:09:40 AM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Haha - I’m not used to the NOAA maps, thought it was a seasonal map, duh!

We really could use some rain / snow, it’s getting dry here!


36 posted on 02/24/2012 9:10:50 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: txhurl

I have several pots with tomato and cucumber seedlings. Just waiting for a little warmer weather before they go into the garden. I have four foot fence around the garden areas and the deer will eat anything that grows through the wire.


37 posted on 02/24/2012 9:10:50 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Do you know a source for soil testing strips? (PH N P K)


38 posted on 02/24/2012 9:14:51 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: txhurl

Yes, the wind is terrible today. I tool the dog for a walk and cut it short today. There are all sorts of things getting blown around the streets. I heard there were some 40 mph gusts earlier.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 9:16:53 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: rightly_dividing
Glad you had your soil analyzed. It is really the first and most important step in garden planning. Seeds and ferts are too darn expensive to be shooting in the dark!

BTW, your okra seeds are on the way. I apologize profusely that I forgot to send them before now. Five different varieties to try. Good luck! (they will need phosphorus)

40 posted on 02/24/2012 9:19:36 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Glad you had your soil analyzed. It is really the first and most important step in garden planning”

Are DIY test kits ok?


41 posted on 02/24/2012 9:24:40 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; tubebender

After being assured yesterday that the big winter storm was passing well to the south of us, we awoke this AM to 6 inches of fluffy snow. I had to wait for the plowman to clear my driveway before I could go to work.

Last week I was treated to the sight of a ground hog running around in a surprise snow storm. The temps have not been too cold and the snow melts right away, so I’m sure that the indigenous animals are totally confused.

My new front windows are in with a coat of primer on the outside (too cold for exterior paint yet). THey’ll be finished later in the year. But, they look gorgeous.

I’ve hired the carpenter independently to put up aluminum soffits on the underside of the roof, so I won’t have to worry about peeling paint there any more and it will also improve the air circulation in the attic. Yay!

I hope all this work improves the heating and cooling costs of the house. It’s costing enough! I think we’ve spent a sum equal to the cost of my first home, just on these improvements.


42 posted on 02/24/2012 9:28:48 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; Sparky1776

Sparky1776 requested to be added to the ping list last week.


43 posted on 02/24/2012 9:35:36 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Cleaned up gardening pots yesterday. Sowed lettuce, parsley, rosemary, lobelia and candy-tuft seeds. Hyacinths blooming, daffys poking up out of the soil, leaves coming out on rose bushes. New growth coming up on perennials. Have an eye on local weather reports as severe thunderstorms coming this way as well as dropping temperatures. Gotta stow away some stuff which could become flying missals.
44 posted on 02/24/2012 9:38:50 AM PST by tob2 (November can't come soon enough for me.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Never mind I see you added Sparky earlier!


45 posted on 02/24/2012 9:53:20 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Last weekend I noticed that some of my celery were drooping, which is usually a sign that it's time to fill the reservoir for the hydroponics. Nope. Upon closer inspection, the stalks are all really thin, the leaves growing all over the place and shading out all the plants below, and the roots and/or stalks have grown so thick they are starting to crack the pot. Looks like they need to come out.

As soon as I started cutting I knew something was terribly wrong. Those &*^#&^%#^& neighbor kids must have come over in the middle of the night and planted parsley! The stuff grew like a weed.

Fortunately, I had freezer space and I can use parsley in the dogs' food. So, after spending quite some time prying and carving the roots out of the pot and replacing the growing medium, I chopped some parsley. And then I chopped some more. This was followed by, yes, more chopping. At this point, I thought about using the food processor, but figured I'd end up spending as much or more time emptying the bowl and I'd have one more item to clean. What else could I do? Maybe a couple passes with the lawn mower?

Okay, I mentioned I had freezer space. Past tense. Between several gallon bags of chopped parsley and the broccoli and cauliflower coming in strong lately I'm pretty well full up. I would have some space left except a couple days ago I noticed that some of my celery was starting to droop. And boy, was it leafy. Oh, "no" [not the word I actually used]. Not again.

A picture of Monday's trip to the garden for those up north who can't wait to get planting.

46 posted on 02/24/2012 10:07:01 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: All

I’ve got a fencing issue that needs to be addressed immediately ... I’ll be back ASAP to get in the conversation!


47 posted on 02/24/2012 10:15:04 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Sparky1776
The chart is a servre weather probability chart. In plain terms...

Green = might get some thunderstorms today.
Yellow = You'll probably have some bad weather today.
Red = You're going to have bad weather today, just not sure how bad.
Magenta = Get in the basement and stay there until the storms pass.

48 posted on 02/24/2012 10:24:10 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Checking in from the Chicago suburbs . . .

Overnight we had 4” of very wet, heavy snow. Third snow of the so called winter. Most of the winter has been temps in the low to mid 30s and bare ground. Too cold to grow anything and too warm to go ice fishing. The only happy thing is my heating bill. This weird weather is making it vary hard to guess last frost date.


49 posted on 02/24/2012 10:29:12 AM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Our garden is still in hibernation with all the snow we have been getting here in N. MN. It’s been warmer than usual this year with few below zero days, which means we will won’t have to wait too long for the soil to warm up enough to plow!

We DO have a large harvest of Bald Eagles right now! They are cleaning up a road kill whitetail just down the road and are hanging around our place between bites... We just love those beautiful birds! There are about a dozen of them here at one time...


50 posted on 02/24/2012 11:12:39 AM PST by JDoutrider
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