Posted on 10/30/2011 3:34:51 PM PDT by Kevmo
1MW eCat Post Mortem
admin on October 30, 2011 — 99 Comments
The 1MW test is complete. When you cut through the clutter, we are told that the device ran for around five and a half hours in self-sustain mode at a rate approaching half a megawatt. On the surface, it appears to have been highly successful .
As expected, we do not know the identity of the customer and much rests on this. According to Dr Rossi, they have accepted the machine and he will now be paid. It appears that the customer was in charge; its own engineers selecting the location of thermocouples, the test criteria and how long the run should last to satisfy them. They had free access and appeared to be more than happy at the end of the day. Since the requirements of science and business do not always meet, it will be some time before sceptics believe this is true. For business, the financial markets and governments to take notice, all we need to know is that this customer was competent and independent of the eCat team .
eCatNews followed the event throughout the day. That post and those that followed provide a good snapshot and will link you to the parts of the Net important to the 28 Oct test .
My confidence has been raised – but until we know the identity of the customer, I am not ready to jump with both feet. Rossi had the following to say about that:
Andrea Rossi
October 29th, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Dear Max: The Customer is of a category that usually maintains secret all they do. I do not know if and when they will want to make public statements and I am bound to a strict non disclosure agreement. Warm Regards, A.R .
This is not suspicious but neatly skirts the hope of nailing this thing down so that it continually frustrates our grasp at certainty .
A genuine company, having taken delivery of such a thing, now belongs to the rare club that knows for a fact if this is real or not. If it is real then that knowledge on its own is extraordinarily valuable – either as a means to invest in the tech while confusion confounds potential competitors or as intelligence to inform playing the markets (assuming it is not a Government body or NGO). Shorting (for instance) a sector dominated by high-risk energy projects like the Canadian Tar Sands (or any other project where the value depends on high oil prices well into the future) would not be considered insider trading because all of this information is out there on the Net and because that information is about potentially competing technology and not the target companies themselves .
Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .
[If you wish to put some flesh on the outline above, eCatNews Brief 1 summarises the cold fusion story, while eCatNews Brief 2 looks at Andrea Rossi's eCat
Interesting... just now catching up on all this. How are they getting financing? Is this a public company that is developing this?
Seriously?
If this were viable technology the test would run for months and it would actually power something and prove there was more energy going out than coming in.
Something is rotten in Denmark.
As far as the legitimacy of the process goes, I fail to see how the customer’s identity adds much.
Personally, I have an idea who a logical customer would be. But I’m not saying.
If the US government was not involved in this somewhere, behind a cut-out or whatever, that would seem to be a potentially lethal omission.
It seems to me that one would not want to be locked out of the technology that could possibly eventually make fossil fuels obsolete as an energy source.
Yeah, and the Wright Brothers should have given up on aviation since their first flight only lasted 12 seconds.
He probably grew up to become a stockbroker or something. Or maybe a scientist...
Yeah, but the Wright Brothers didn’t have their biplane suspended by wires.
African Press International will be reporting on it, presently.
You bet it is. The Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed; as it passes from one for to another energy is reduced (not increased.)
All these energy scams that violate the Law of Thermodynamics are just that - SCAMS.
Fusing elements heavier than iron absorb energy.
Maybe API is too smart to report on this one?
Agreed. This story has more crap piled on top of it than the Orbo BS Steorn tried to pull off...
The odds of this not being a hoax are extremely small, I think. But boy oh boy if it is real, we are looking at the next industrial revolution.
right, and that’s why a nuclear power plant doesn’t work.
It certainly was the last time I saw it.
One of 3 things going on here.
1. Fraud.
2. He’s Delusional.
3. It’s real.
The Fraud seems the least likely to me. Spending over a year trying to perpetuate a world wide scam? For what? It would all be taken away anyway and he would end up in jail.
So it comes down really to 2 or 3. I hope to God its 3, but its more likely #2. Time will tell.
That particular law was repealed the day the Curie’s discovered radium.
Been a couple of years since I was over at Air and Space but you’re right, it’s suspended by wires from the ceiling.
Good, succinct analysis.
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