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Welcome, My Friends to the Collapse of 2011
The Market Ticker ^ | September 22, 2011 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 09/23/2011 6:04:20 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Remember the mantra that "consumers have delevered" which has been run over the last two years as an incessant bark from the media, attempting to goad you, the consumer, into more spending and more consumption to "lift the economy."

This claim has been a lie and a fraud upon the public and the new Fed Z1 makes this clear. The peak household credit liability was $13.92 trillion. It currently stands at $13.30 trillion, a reduction of a mere 4.6%.

This all came from home mortgages going ka-boom; $10.6 trillion to $9.9 trillion, a reduction of $700 billion. Total net reduction in liability was $620 billion; ex-mortgages consumer leverage has actually increased.

The DAX is now down nearly 10% in two days and the rest of the global markets are reacting in the same sort of fashion. This should not surprise; the same mantra of "we've de-levered" and "cash is at all time highs on the sidelines" has been claimed for years, and it's the worst sort of half-truth.

See, cash is indeed at high levels. But debt has gone higher, and yet nobody mentions the liability side. As an example non-financial business credit stands at $11.02 trillion, just barely down from the 2008 high of $11.15 trillion - and nearly a clean double from the year 2000 level of $6.21 trillion.

There's been no material "de-levering" at all. In fact the World Economic Forum claimed that in order to hit the "expected" GDP growth numbers we would have to double outstanding credit - that is, add $100 trillion in the next ten years.

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1 posted on 09/23/2011 6:04:22 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: blam; Jack Black

Ping for your Morning Coffee...but you and I already knew all this... :)


2 posted on 09/23/2011 6:06:30 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Now recognition of that fact is dawning on people in a convulsive fashion, and markets of all sorts are reacting as one would expect when their entire worldview is exposed as having been a gigantic and intentional pyramid scheme constructed of debt layered upon debt that cannot be paid down. The wrong thing was done in 2008 and there is zero evidence that our government has changed one iota in their singular focus on misdirection and lies in this regard.

Welcome to awareness; I hope you’ve taken the last couple of years to become prepared.


3 posted on 09/23/2011 6:07:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

http://www.villagevoice.com/content/printVersion/541234/


4 posted on 09/23/2011 6:13:30 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Both silver and gold suffered massive selloffs this week. Gold may have further to fall, but turning long on silver may be a good move about now. I personally am long December silver( SLV Calls) and hedged on gold, but YMMV. FWIW.
5 posted on 09/23/2011 6:13:43 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
a gigantic and intentional pyramid scheme constructed of debt layered upon debt that cannot be paid down.

I hold to my belief that there will be, in effect, a jubilee -- people just won't pay. A massive default at all levels, and the world will just give up trying to collect. It will be an awful mess, but it will clear away the debt, and people will rebuild the global economy, hopefully on sounder footing.

6 posted on 09/23/2011 6:13:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

well, I am too stupid to understand this article. But I knew they never should have sunk all that money into the economy in 2008.

That was a fraud and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the current administration was neck deep in causing whatever happened.


7 posted on 09/23/2011 6:17:13 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Diana in Wisconsin.
The peak household credit liability was $13.92 trillion. It currently stands at $13.30 trillion, a reduction of a mere 4.6%. This all came from home mortgages going ka-boom; $10.6 trillion to $9.9 trillion, a reduction of $700 billion.

8 posted on 09/23/2011 6:24:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No amount of preparedness will defeat the zombie horde. Too many people, not enough empty space (that isnt freezing that is).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OZ0mu8Ey6A


9 posted on 09/23/2011 6:30:24 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ClearCase_guy

Man, I hope you’re right.


10 posted on 09/23/2011 6:32:07 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Gee, I guess I'm not the only person in the world that has been steadfast in the belief we were headed toward a Great Debt Deflation...in spite of the spasm in commodities and stocks.

Yes, this is going to be ugly folks.

1934 is a good model of where we are headed. The central banks cannot push enough money...because money is debt and there is no more room for debt in the USA or elsewhere.

Buy and hold cash.

11 posted on 09/23/2011 6:32:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The for sale sign is going out on the front lawn tomorrow morning.
Nice single level ranch for sale in a nice, quiet neighborhood, $419,000

I owe 200,000 to the BOA A-holes and have 219,000 in supposed equity, .
Hopefully some sucker buys it quick before the S REALLY HTF.

after the realtor, feds, state and local anally rape me and after i pay off my other debts i may have half of the equity left over for some dumpy apartment somewhere.
What a frigging waste of my life, never missed a payment in 20 years and now it’s over.
ugh

House for sale to all you interested freepers!!

Oh yea, it’s in MA though.
sorry bout that.


12 posted on 09/23/2011 6:35:54 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

bump for reference


13 posted on 09/23/2011 6:39:50 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve had a similar question running through my mind recently. What would happen if you lined up every dollar of debt held by other nations and started doing cancellations of one against another. I have 2K in italian debt italy you have 2k in my debt lets cancel them out. poof we both just improved our balance sheet by 2k....if govts had balance sheets..as though they practiced GAAP lol haha lol oh it’s so funny it hurts...maybe I just answered my own question, but at the least it would simplify the situation.


14 posted on 09/23/2011 6:43:24 PM PDT by reed13
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To: Soothesayer9

That looks like a really cool show.


15 posted on 09/23/2011 6:49:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

What is pretty funny is people here on FR pimping for Herman Cain who worked for your overlords - The Federal Reserve.


16 posted on 09/23/2011 6:49:47 PM PDT by John334
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To: hinckley buzzard

Me, too. Short on gold, long on silver. But Hells Bells! I was GOING to sell at $1200.00/oz.

Looks like I may have a chance to revisit that again, LOL!


17 posted on 09/23/2011 6:50:14 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: mowowie

On the positive side, you will be unhitching yourself from an obligation that limits your mobility. Without annual appreciation, many of the arguments for buying fall by the wayside. The equity you have right now is likely the most you’ll have for several years to come.

I bought my first house in 1993 and still have it, intended to keep it as a rental after I built my dream house on a lake. Long story short, I was forced to sell that one a year after it was finished, actually made a little profit, only due to having bought the land well before cheap money drove it up.

I paid $92,500 for it, 3/2 ranch, acre and a half, 1500 sf. Could have sold it in 07 for 155k, would be lucky to get 135 for it now. Mostly paid for though, but even that doesn’t approach your 219k, so count your blessings.


18 posted on 09/23/2011 6:53:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: ClearCase_guy

I don’t really see any other way out of it.

This hole is so deep and so black, it’s unfathomable by the average brain.

However, I’m still willing to let people pay me a wheelbarrow full of bullion for a dozen eggs or a loaf of homemade bread.

*SMIRK* :)


19 posted on 09/23/2011 6:53:39 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Mariner

Buy and hold cash?

Can you sell me some at discount prices?...Or I could trade you for some dehydrated water.


20 posted on 09/23/2011 7:03:48 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (A closed mouth eats no cheese.)
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