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Chamberlain's Secret Bid to Reach a Deal With Hitler, Revealed in Newly Released Documents
Daily Mail ^
| 4th September 2011
| ABUL TAHER
Posted on 09/03/2011 11:20:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Our current GOP leadership seems to come to mind when reading this story.
To: SoConPubbie
Our current GOP leadership seems to come to mind when reading this story. People on this list seem to miss few opportunities to express GOP self hatred.
To: SoConPubbie
Our current Dems - lying to make radical Muslims look safe come to mind ...
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posted on
09/03/2011 11:52:31 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
To: SoConPubbie
Explain, please - Just curious.
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posted on
09/03/2011 11:54:31 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
To: Mike Darancette; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...
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posted on
09/03/2011 11:55:06 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: nickcarraway
Thank God we fought Hitler when we were still a nation of men. Can you imagine Hitler vs. Obama? Heil no.
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:03:17 AM PDT
by
Defiant
(Calling all citizens from all over the world, this is Captain America calling.)
To: SoConPubbie
In 1938, Britain did not have the capability to successfully wage war against Germany. In that situation, it's hardly surprising that Chamberlain tried everything he could to avoid war.
Over the next year, a lot of things changed.
Standard British Bomber of 1938.
Standard British Bomber of 1939.
Standard British Fighter of 1938.
Standard British Fighter of 1939.
That one year made a lot of difference. Two more battleships were commissioned in 1939 (HMS King George V, and HMS Prince of Wales) with three more nearing completion. Britain's first 'modern' Aircraft Carrier by the standards of the day, was only commissioned near the end of 1938, and the next four were still building through 1939. That one year that Chamberlain gained made a huge difference.
Yes, he hoped to avoid war. But he also helped put in place a vastly improved mechanism to fight it.
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:05:38 AM PDT
by
naturalman1975
("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
To: Defiant
>Can you imagine Hitler vs. Obama?<
Is there a difference?
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:10:46 AM PDT
by
max americana
(FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
To: max americana
No, but socialists can, which is why Hitler and Stalin had their fight. It’s like 2 species of snake that to us are just snakes, but who only like their own kind.
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:26:22 AM PDT
by
Defiant
(Calling all citizens from all over the world, this is Captain America calling.)
To: naturalman1975
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:35:30 AM PDT
by
RitchieAprile
(breaking wind to the East..)
To: naturalman1975
I have read speculation that Chamberlain was trying to, at the least, stall as much as he could.
I've never read concrete development of that thesis though.
Know of any good info on it?
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:49:35 AM PDT
by
El Sordo
(The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
To: naturalman1975
Very interesting comments. I always thought poorly of his actions, but appreciate your logic that he played the cards he was dealt while his nation prepared.
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:53:31 AM PDT
by
catbertz
To: RitchieAprile
Shuttleworth’s was the only airworthy Gladiator, but Duxford’s was restored to flyable status a couple of years ago and is the one that appears in the photograph I posted.
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posted on
09/04/2011 12:54:48 AM PDT
by
naturalman1975
("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
To: El Sordo
I like A.J.P. Taylor's
The Origins of the Second World War for its discussion of Chamberlain, but Dutton's more recent
Neville Chamberlain is fairly sympathetic as well.
Chamberlain was naive, I think, when it came to Hitler. He wasn't just stalling - he genuinely hoped Hitler would prove to be willing to turn away from aggression. But he wasn't so naive as to put all his hopes into that. He hoped to avoid war, but knew he might not be able to - and so he supported preparations to deal with that eventuality. To me, the most compelling evidence in his favour is that when he was forced to retire on the grounds of ill health in mid 1940 (he had cancer and he wouldn't survive the year), Winston Churchill tried to persuade him to accept Britain's highest order of Chivalry - as a Knight of the Garter. Churchill felt that Chamberlain was worthy of that. In his writings, Churchill condemned many of the choices Chamberlain made, and with justification at times - but he still saw a man who had given his best and his all for his country. And had done well enough.
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posted on
09/04/2011 1:21:44 AM PDT
by
naturalman1975
("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Ping for possible discussion in your WW2 threads.
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posted on
09/04/2011 1:28:13 AM PDT
by
abb
("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
To: naturalman1975
As kind of a self taught arm chair aero guy I have seen a lot of craft, but this one is hidious, oh my so many sins....
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posted on
09/04/2011 1:29:26 AM PDT
by
taildragger
(( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
To: Mike Darancette
People on this list seem to miss few opportunities to express GOP self hatred.
Ditto. Foggy bottom was the first thing that came to mind.
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posted on
09/04/2011 1:31:29 AM PDT
by
PA Engineer
(SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom. Freddd is Gay)
To: GOPJ
Child Molesting Party (CMP) and Mohammedans both hate America and want to destroy her.
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posted on
09/04/2011 2:16:35 AM PDT
by
NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
To: SoConPubbie
Our current GOP leadership seems to come to mind when reading this story.How do they measure up compared to our current Democrats?
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posted on
09/04/2011 2:22:39 AM PDT
by
trebb
("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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