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Peruvian Desert Once a Breadbasket

1 posted on 08/16/2011 7:25:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Throughout human history unsustainable agricultural practices have turned fragile ecosystems into wastelands and left people starving

how can this be true ? I was guran-damn-teed it was SUVs.
3 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:14 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama..."Fredo-Smart")
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To: SunkenCiv
How is this possible? The sacred, all-knowing Incas lived in harmony and peace with Nature in Paradise.
4 posted on 08/16/2011 7:37:32 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: SunkenCiv

Of course this had nothing at all to do with natural climate variability, like when the “wet band” shifted North and South of the equator, making the lands closest to the equator dry (Sahara Desert and The Land of Milk And Honey are pretty parched now when they once were fertile). This MUST be caused by the hand of Man.


6 posted on 08/16/2011 7:47:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: SunkenCiv
Providence at work:

Pisco is a natural product originating from distilled fermented grape juice from selected grapes grown in the rich wine region of the Ica Valley - around the Pisco and Ica rivers - located three hundred kilometers south of Lima, the capital city of Peru. The favorable conditions of the soil and the semi-arid climate make of the Ica Valley the perfect setting for the growth of a unique variety of grapes.

Aficianados of Pisco will understand that a so-called "man-made natural disaster" may be God's way of permitting Evil in the attainment of a greater Good!

8 posted on 08/16/2011 8:09:00 PM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: SunkenCiv
...huarango...

I thought that a Korean martial art.

9 posted on 08/16/2011 8:20:42 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv
"750 B.C. to 1000 A.D."

Say, that's the same rough time frame for the collapse of the Anasazi and the classic Mayan civilizations too. Were they all bad farmers then? /s

13 posted on 08/16/2011 8:55:51 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I found some other stories about this place and history.

Scientists write that the place was really agriculturally rich between 100BC and 400AD (especially after 100AD), but an El Nino event trashed the place with a massive flood at or before 500AD, ruining irrigation systems and forests.

They write that human deforestation made the place much more vulnerable to flood damage (but obviously didn’t cause the flood).


15 posted on 08/16/2011 10:29:54 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did American farmers cause the Dust Bowl?


19 posted on 08/17/2011 12:05:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s not just Peru, the Mayans in Copan, Honduras, and elsewhere throughout Central America, eventually died out due to poor agricultural practices and over population.


32 posted on 08/17/2011 3:24:21 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: SunkenCiv

New Orleans, LA, Matagorda and Sergents Beach, TX learned the hard way about the dangers of hurricanes when marsh, grass lands were destroyed with development. Both Matagorda and Sergents are restoring the marsh and grass lands...and I’ve read NO’s is doing the same.


36 posted on 08/17/2011 4:19:31 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Ica Valley, near the coast of southern Peru and the famous Nazca lines, is now a barren desert, but was once a fertile floodplain, anchored by the roots of the huarango tree.

The Nile valley is a fertile floodplain even today.

That doesn't mean it gets much rain.

Farming the Ica Valley was possible because of the huarango tree woodland, which literally held the floodplain together. The roots of the tree physically anchored the soils and protected the ground from erosion. The trees also maintained fertility by fixing nitrogen from the air and keeping moisture in the soil.

But as more land was cleared for crop production, so much of the woodland was cleared that the huarango's benefits were lost. The land was then exposed to floods from El Niño events and strong winds parched the land when it wasn't flooded.

This was a river valley in a dry area that got its moisture from melting snow in the distant mountains. It was at risk for desertification for a long, long time.

38 posted on 08/17/2011 5:29:28 PM PDT by x
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