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1 posted on 01/31/2011 3:35:34 PM PST by Swordmaker
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NetGear CEO slams Apple in interview... claims Android will overtake Apple—PING!

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Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
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Apple Ping!

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2 posted on 01/31/2011 3:37:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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MacDailyNews Take: We wouldn't buy a Netgear product if you paid us ten times the asking price. They're just pieces of junk from a company headed by an ungrateful, tactless dimwit.

Wow. Sounds like someone hit a nerve.

Where's your usual "No personal attacks" disclaimer?

I've never had a problem with any Netgear product. In fact it's running most of my home network.

3 posted on 01/31/2011 3:45:09 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Swordmaker
Too bad Android has all that stolen code in it.

They were so lazy they didn't even strip out the headers and obfuscate the variable names.

5 posted on 01/31/2011 3:49:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Swordmaker

lack of editorial objectivity makes this as useless as something from HuffPo or Kos.

Steve Jobs vision HAS been a major competitive factor for Apple, it would have been interesting to read a discussion of THAT.


7 posted on 01/31/2011 3:55:41 PM PST by bigbob
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PFL


8 posted on 01/31/2011 3:55:56 PM PST by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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I have actually had MUCH better luck with Netgear than with D-Link or Linksys products. When Lo says that Apple only has the portable mp3 market with the iPod because they already own it, he is overlooking the fact that mp3 itself is nearly as open as Android is, and that plenty of mp3 compatible products existed long before the iPod (I still have my Lexar, circa 2000, and Creative Labs had the Rio). The Lexar allowed swapping USB memory sticks, still a cool feature. Apple went into a growing market they didn't own, and proceeded to own it with everyone from Microsoft to Lexar and Creative taking a stab (not to mention Sony with their proprietary ATRAC system).

Years ago, Michael Dell stated that it was time for Apple to pack it in and fold up shop. Maybe he was trying to influence buyers and stores. Maybe he was engaged in wishful thinking. Business savvy and smart as he is, he was extremely wrong. The Netgear CEO taking the Lo road was uncharacteristically unAsian. Moreover, speaking like a Grand Mufti chiding others greater (in a business sense) than oneself makes one look like a small minded hypocrite.

Apple survived kicking Steve Jobs out once already. A wiser, mature Jobs returned, and actually improved on his previous performance. He has known about his failing health for some time, and when his time is up in 15 days or 15 years, his successors will be obliged to follow his approach as well as they are able. We won't get any Gil Amelios this time around. Visionary that he is, Jobs could not have turned the company around alone, and it thrived during his previous medical leave of absence. They are ready this time.

I'll likely buy Netgear products in the future, but I sure wouldn't want a business relationship with the likes of Mr Lo anytime soon. He has to mature just as Steve Jobs did.
9 posted on 01/31/2011 4:00:00 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Swordmaker
If that title is an accurate representation: Wow what a freaking degenerate. When did sociopaths start running corporations?

/ rhetorical question.

16 posted on 01/31/2011 4:55:56 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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To: Swordmaker

Meh. My Netgear router works just fine. And we have iPhones, a Mac Book Air, as well as several PC products scattered around the house.

Apple fanbois need to not get so bent out of shape when their living icon is criticized. Argue the points with facts.


18 posted on 01/31/2011 5:04:09 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Swordmaker

Sounds like his business plan is: Wait for Steve Jobs to die. Pathetic


29 posted on 01/31/2011 7:21:04 PM PST by JimSEA
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It’s interesting if not disturbing that so many people’s psychological, personal and sociological identity seems to be built being identified with their possessions and various types of machines and products.

For example, Harley Davidson motorcycles. Many of the Japanese road bikes will simply blow Harleys away on the open road in speed and handling for the same price or less. Depends on how and why you ride. Harley’s are for the image or self image or personal identity factor, the Japanese bikes are for the outrageous speed, handling and function right out of the box.

Apple has a very high personal identity and affinity factor and they are excellent for graphics design and music production. Not many PC owners proudly say “I’ve got a bla de bla desktop computer”, they simply don’t care and may not even know what kind of PC they have (perhaps with the exception of gamers who are pretty much nuts anyway,...just kidding gamers).

Many PC users care about as much about their PC (perhaps LESS)as they do about their toasters, microwaves or coffee makers. I doubt that this is even remotely possible with Apple products users. For many Mac users, their Apple products are their life and ID.

These machines etc. are just things. Their time and popularity will fade and pass like many “necessary” things did in the past. Who knows what computing will be in 10, 20 or 50 years from now. How many DEC’s, Compaq’s Gateway’s, KayPro’s, Amiga’s and God knows how many other brands of computers have come and gone and will be around in the near future? How many are left? How many will be?

Apple makes some great products with very good industrial design, looks and function. I myself use a Windows based PC because my financial trading software is windows based. Most financial traders use PC’s with multiple monitors. A Mac Pro with 4 monitors and extra ram is much more expensive on the Mac platform. I don’t know if you can change out MAC hardware every few months (if you so choose) like you can on your own build PC’s. I don’t know if Apple wants you opening, changing and modifying their machines.

The last Mac I took apart used average ECS mobo’s and generic RAM which they charge higher prices for.

Beautiful, elegant machines with a good OS, but it depends on your use, needs and bank account if the extra expense is worth it to you.


30 posted on 01/31/2011 9:01:12 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of "lberals, Islam and illegal immigration.)
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"Never afraid to speak his mind, Lo also said Netgear had seen a boom in sales of its Wi-Fi network booster product due to the trend of people taking their iPads with them into the bathroom. The extenders are used to boost the wireless signal so it can reach other rooms."

The alternative is to buy a better router so it can reach other rooms...

31 posted on 01/31/2011 11:44:48 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Swordmaker
Netgear tops my list of companies whose products are inferior and whose service is abysmal, so any brickbats coming from their CEO are beneath notice.

Just as an example: I had a Netgear WiFi router which had an annoying habit of going off-line after 24 hours of non-use. So everytime we went away for an overnight trip, we'd come back to find the router had gone away. The thing could not be roused again without power-cycling. There was no notation in the documentation regarding this behavior, and no setting on the device's admin page seemed to influence it. I finally called Netgear and endured 45 minutes on hold until a troll with a thick accent told me it was a "green" feature and could not be disabled.

I bought a new router the next day.

In other installations for friends, again: nothing but trouble with Netgear products, and crap-for-support.

They're not the folks to be schooling Apple on how to do business, IMHO.
33 posted on 02/01/2011 10:33:15 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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