Posted on 01/31/2011 3:35:33 PM PST by Swordmaker
"The global chairman and CEO of home networking giant Netgear has launched into a scathing attack on Apple and its founder Steve Jobs, criticising Jobs's 'ego' and Apple's closed up products," Asher Moses reports for The Sydney Morning Herald. "At a lunch in Sydney today, Patrick Lo said Apple's success was centred on closed and proprietary products that would soon be overtaken by open platforms like Google's Android."
MacDailyNews Take: Patrick Lo is dead wrong. Here's why from someone who predicted the iPhone over 4 years before Steve Jobs unveiled it. What was the Patrick Lo doing in 2002? Making some of the world's crappiest routers. As usual.
Moses continues, "Lo said Apple's closed model only worked because, in many product categories like MP3 players, 'they own the market.'"
MacDailyNews Take: Why do they own the market, dummy? Hello?
Moses continues, "However, he said this was only a temporary state of affairs and pointed to the fact that Google's open-source Android platform for smartphones - which any manufacturer can use for free - recently overtook iPhone in market share in the US."
MacDailyNews Take: "A temporary state of affairs" that's going on a decade now, genius.
Moses continues, "'Once Steve Jobs goes away, which is probably not far away, then Apple will have to make a strategic decision on whether to open up the platform,' said Lo."
MacDailyNews Take: Anyone who remotely understands what Steve Jobs means to the world, which, oh-by-the-way, includes delivering WiFi to the masses, without which there would likely be no Netgear, should have at least a bit of respect. Especially a dime-a-dozen CEO of a dime-a-dozen company that specializes in buggy routers. What's our standard response whenever we run into WiFi connection issues? "Netgear. Pure crap." It ought to be their company slogan.
Moses continues, "[Lo said] 'Ultimately a closed system just can't go that far ... If they continue to close it and let Android continue to creep up then it's pretty difficult as I see it.'"
MacDailyNews Take: That's the problem, you don't see it. Oh, for a natural inhibition that would give the visionless pause before critiquing the visionary.
Moses continues, "Lo also criticised Jobs's public thrashing of the Adobe Flash format, attributing it to his 'ego.' 'What's the reason for him to trash Flash? There's no reason other than ego,' he said. Asked if he had relayed any of his concerns about Apple's closed platform to Jobs, Lo said: 'Steve Jobs doesn't give me a minute!'"
MacDailyNews Take: Steve Jobs doesn't suffer fools and he's already explained quite clearly why he's sparing iOS users from Adobe's Flash.
Moses continues, "Never afraid to speak his mind, Lo also said Netgear had seen a boom in sales of its Wi-Fi network booster product due to the trend of people taking their iPads with them into the bathroom. The extenders are used to boost the wireless signal so it can reach other rooms."
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: We wouldn't buy a Netgear product if you paid us ten times the asking price. They're just pieces of junk from a company headed by an ungrateful, tactless dimwit.
I see you always get in the first punch!
I get the sense that iPad is being compared to vaporware specs as far as Android tablets are concerned. I’ve yet to see one in the wild.
Neither have I... and we have three of them here at my office which replaced three crappy Linksys routers that kept bombing out on us. Occasionally, we have to restart the Netgear stuff... they just suddenly decide to lose all connections. That happens about once per quarter. We can live with that. That was much less than the once per week loss of connection we were getting with the Linksys stuff.
I don't know how well the Linksys stuff is since Cisco bought them.
That's what I said in my first comment about Netgear on this thread. I really think that ALL routers have some issues that eventually cause them to have to be rebooted from time to time.
The 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab is available... Radio Shack carries them... and Verizon and Sprint. You can try them there. You can purchase them with a two year contract for around $350, IIRC... $549 without.
Freeper Truthfreedom will tell you all about a generic 8" MID816 tablet with Android2.2 that retails for $229 (plus $40 each for 32GB flash memory card drives to increase the 4GB native drive it comes with) that he says is every way as good as an iPad... ignoring the extremely short battery life (>five hours), resistive, non-multi-touch, 40º angle of view 800x600 screen, non-working apps, jerky responsiveness, and generally plasticky feel... because it sort of runs Flash... but not YouTube... BUT it really is just as good as an iPad... really, truly... honest... if you screw your eyes just right and squint... and look at it with only one eye so you don't get the color distortion caused by the 40º angle of view from the cheap screen when you try to use two eyes at normal viewing distances...
The guy said Steve won't be around forever, and he has an ego, and his opinion is that Android will overtake iOS. That hardly calls for a " rattlesnake in the mailbox" response.
Argue the points with facts.
OK. When was the last product innovation from this president of Netgear? What product has his company introduced in the router industry that changed anything? NONE.
As for Google and Apple’s other competition, I ask the same question. What innovation’s have come from them? None!
They simply create their own version of Apple’s innovative products.
Those are the “facts”.
If you don’t think Google itself wasn’t an innovation in its day, you haven’t been on the Internet very long.
Sounds like his business plan is: Wait for Steve Jobs to die. Pathetic
It’s interesting if not disturbing that so many people’s psychological, personal and sociological identity seems to be built being identified with their possessions and various types of machines and products.
For example, Harley Davidson motorcycles. Many of the Japanese road bikes will simply blow Harleys away on the open road in speed and handling for the same price or less. Depends on how and why you ride. Harley’s are for the image or self image or personal identity factor, the Japanese bikes are for the outrageous speed, handling and function right out of the box.
Apple has a very high personal identity and affinity factor and they are excellent for graphics design and music production. Not many PC owners proudly say “I’ve got a bla de bla desktop computer”, they simply don’t care and may not even know what kind of PC they have (perhaps with the exception of gamers who are pretty much nuts anyway,...just kidding gamers).
Many PC users care about as much about their PC (perhaps LESS)as they do about their toasters, microwaves or coffee makers. I doubt that this is even remotely possible with Apple products users. For many Mac users, their Apple products are their life and ID.
These machines etc. are just things. Their time and popularity will fade and pass like many “necessary” things did in the past. Who knows what computing will be in 10, 20 or 50 years from now. How many DEC’s, Compaq’s Gateway’s, KayPro’s, Amiga’s and God knows how many other brands of computers have come and gone and will be around in the near future? How many are left? How many will be?
Apple makes some great products with very good industrial design, looks and function. I myself use a Windows based PC because my financial trading software is windows based. Most financial traders use PC’s with multiple monitors. A Mac Pro with 4 monitors and extra ram is much more expensive on the Mac platform. I don’t know if you can change out MAC hardware every few months (if you so choose) like you can on your own build PC’s. I don’t know if Apple wants you opening, changing and modifying their machines.
The last Mac I took apart used average ECS mobo’s and generic RAM which they charge higher prices for.
Beautiful, elegant machines with a good OS, but it depends on your use, needs and bank account if the extra expense is worth it to you.
The alternative is to buy a better router so it can reach other rooms...
Probably one of the best-balanced comments I’ve seen on these threads.
ME? “one of the best-balanced comments”? That’s not usually what a lot of my FaceBook “friends” and other friends and relatives say about me. I’m usually filed under the obnoxious, cranky, fanatic lunatic section for a lot of these people.
But I “Thank you,....Thank you vurry much”.
Yes, can’t we PC and Apple people “just get along”?.
The Apple people must be rejoiced over the Intel Sandy Bridge chip set screw up.
Funny, I seem to have good luck with my NetGear routers and wireless adapters. I’ve also had LinkSys routers etc and had OK luck with them too.
I buy lots of various computer and electronic equipment from newegg.com and it’s always interesting to read the feedback comments on various CPU’s, MOBO’s, RAM and HDD’s. There are usually some people who get great stuff that always works and they love it and then there are always the unlucky people who get faulty products that are “DOA” and crap with lousy customer service from the XYZ corp who will never buy from newegg or “that” company again.
I must be living right or have lucked out computer equipment wise. I’ve had one hard drive fail on me and it was the circuit board controller on it that went wacky.
PC’s fail sometimes and even Apple products fail too sometimes.
I was all hot to buy a new Sandy Bridge CPU and MOBO and do a new build when they just suddenly disappeared from vendors sites overnight becauser of a mobo chipset and CPU fault (some SATA ports).
So, for now, I’ll just buy some more RAM, a bigger, faster HDD and Windows 7 HP or Pro 64bit for a cheap, temporary upgrade. Must be the ghoasts in the machines.
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