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Too Religious to Home-School?
FOXNews.com ^ | January 27, 2011 - 7:41 AM | by: Douglas Kennedy

Posted on 01/27/2011 5:20:12 PM PST by metmom

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To: ixtl
I doubt that she is Muslim, otherwise they wouldn't have included the line: "she says as she looks up at the painting of Jesus holding a child."
41 posted on 01/27/2011 6:33:26 PM PST by SelmaLee
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To: ixtl

This stuff happens in a divorce and judges are most likely to side with what is the more standard practice.


42 posted on 01/27/2011 6:45:46 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: metmom

No, I do not home school. My children are grown and are all successful adults. They attended public school, and also went to church and Sunday School. k

i was a practicing lawyer for 30 plus years, until health issues forced my retirement. At one time I did some family law, but couldn’t stomach the “she got the gold mine, I got the shaft” mentality of too many of our judges.

I just wonder if you think the Yearning for Zion ranch in Texas is a great example of home schooling?


43 posted on 01/27/2011 7:04:39 PM PST by ixtl (You live and learn; or you don't live long.)
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To: ixtl

With a picture of Jesus holding a child?


44 posted on 01/27/2011 7:18:35 PM PST by Twinkie (LEFTIST FREE SPEECH GOOD. - CONSERVATIVE FREE SPEECH BAD.)
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To: metmom
I read the whole story....so far, and up to post 31.

Frankly, I am siding with the father.

I have nothing against “homeschooling” as an option for the education of children in the USA.

Some home schooled students have been proved to be excelling academically over some publicly schooled children.
Some home schooled students have proved to be victims of abusive parents.
Hense the government mandate regarding a basic education,as both a right for the child, and the duty of a parent, for all the children born in the USA.

This is a case of a family divided, via a legal divorce, with a child involved.

I find your comments particularly offensive, as you seem to think the fathers only function is to provide monetary support to his former wife.

45 posted on 01/27/2011 7:21:02 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: metmom

*I* am not a feminist, but I’m not married anymore, and I don’t need it either, you are right.


46 posted on 01/27/2011 7:32:19 PM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt.)
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To: sarasmom
I find your comments particularly offensive, as you seem to think the fathers only function is to provide monetary support to his former wife.

Then read again, because that's NOT what I was saying.

47 posted on 01/27/2011 7:39:31 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You got it, its Money not the Kids or Religion.


48 posted on 01/27/2011 9:36:11 PM PST by easternsky
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To: I still care
I've been wondering what happened to that former lesbian (hasbian) with the little girl. The last I heard she disappeared — don't know if that was true or not.
49 posted on 01/27/2011 9:42:42 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: easternsky

The minute religion was mentioned, you just have to know that that’s what it was all about.

And social life? Really?

His arguments have no merit.


50 posted on 01/27/2011 9:44:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: scripter; I still care
A quick search says the girls biological mother is Lisa Miller and the lesbian ex-partner trying to get custody is Janet Jenkins. A story dated February 23, 2010 stated Lisa Miller and child (Isabella) disappeared and there is an arrest warrant out for Miller. Isabella will turn 9 in April.

A June 4, 2010 article says Miller flew to El Salvador. That's the latest I could find.

51 posted on 01/27/2011 10:05:12 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Thanks for looking. I guess she is in El Salvador. I had just heard she disappeared, and figured they would find her. But not in El Salvador.

To give an adoptive lesbian expartner custody over the natural mother - you know the judge has an agenda. During these things you don’t know who to believe, but the natural mother said the lesbian mother made the girl take baths with her and the child didn’t like it. If that is true, I’d take the child to El Salvador too.


52 posted on 01/28/2011 2:26:39 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Shimmer1; metmom

Interesting how this thread became a debate over marriage. But I think it’s a good tangent to go down.

Pointing out the problems with legal marriage in the U.S. is germane and relevant here. This is a custody/parenting battle and the courts are getting dragged into it to make a value judgement. It’s not a Constitutional issue: there is no agreement between the two parties who would have the right to assert it. The court is getting asked to decide between the father’s and the mother’s approach to education and they’ve done so. We shouldn’t be surprised that they selected the government schools.

And it’s not misogyny to point out some obvious problems with state licensed marriage. While I think that everyone realizes that licensed marriage is an arrangement that primarily benefits women and children, the legal relationship has become so skewed in favor of women that men are basically avoiding it like the plague and recommending that other men do so as well. Which probably goes a long way toward explaining why over half of children born these days are illegitimate. Men have to say YES to licensed marriage at least once, and it would appear that large numbers have received the memo.

We can rail on about how this indicates the low quality of men, etc., etc., ad nauseum. But I would point out that we shouldn’t expect any rational person, male or female, to voluntarily enter into a legal arrangement that is profoundly skewed against their legal and economic interests should things head south.

While I personally don’t think that the death of licensed marriage is good for society, I would point out that there is a third way of avoiding a lot of the legal and economic disadvatages of licensed marriage: getting married in the religious sense but not bothering to get a marriage license from the state in the first place.


53 posted on 01/28/2011 4:55:37 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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To: ixtl

I just wonder if you think the AZ shooter (and myriad other like examples) are a great example of government schooling?


54 posted on 01/28/2011 4:58:29 AM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt.)
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To: sarasmom; metmom

“I find your comments particularly offensive, as you seem to think the fathers only function is to provide monetary support to his former wife.”

Tht’s a fairly common point of view these days, and one that the courts have eagerly embraced. It also goes a long way in explaining why so many children are born out of wedlock. Men have received the memo, and they just aren’t entering into licensed marriage.

I guess the silver lining here is that we will have fewer and fewer of these nasty divorce battles happening in the future. Because marriage is becoming increasingly rare.


55 posted on 01/28/2011 5:03:09 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Palin 2012: Renew, Revive, and Restore)
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To: BobL

If folks would only follow the wisdom of the Bible...


2 Cor 6:14
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

It would be better to not be married than “unequally yoked”.
DON’T MARRY A FEMINIST.

I am blessed. I married one (STUPID ME!), and she got born again, and we’re happier than we ever thought we could be.


56 posted on 01/28/2011 5:31:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: metmom

But you’re not raising feminists,
so you don’t have to worry about men “like him” rejecting your daughters.

I’m serious. I’m not raising feminists, and I will train my sons to spot them and dismiss them as potential wives.


57 posted on 01/28/2011 5:33:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: scripter

That poor biological mother.


58 posted on 01/28/2011 5:42:45 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: scripter

Basically, the other woman kidnapped her daughter, aided and abetted by the courts.


59 posted on 01/28/2011 5:43:34 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MrB

And they’re how old???

;)


60 posted on 01/28/2011 5:45:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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