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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 (Vol. 42) November 19
Free Republic | 11-19-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 11/19/2010 5:13:31 AM PST by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. Thanksgiving is next week and I hope all Freepers enjoy a bountiful feast with family and friends. Don’t forget to give thanks, it can turn a meal into a feast.

A reminder for those of you who have a frozen turkey, for every 4 pounds of turkey it will take a day to thaw in the refrigerator. A 20-pound turkey will take 5 days so you need to start defrosting it tomorrow. If your turkey will not fit into your fridge defrost it in an ice chest with ice.

If the turkey is allowed to thaw at a temperature above 40 ºF, any harmful bacteria that may have been present before freezing can begin to grow again unless proper thawing methods are used.

You can also thaw it in a cold-water bath. Allow about 30 minutes per pound when thawing a turkey in cold water. A 20-pound turkey will take 10 hours using this method. Be sure to change the water often. Turkeys thawed by the cold-water method should be cooked immediately because conditions were not temperature controlled.

Ok Freepers this means no thawing of the turkey on the back porch or in the trunk of your car!


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1 posted on 11/19/2010 5:13:36 AM PST by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 11/19/2010 5:14:38 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I'm spittin' mad. Did you see this?

S510 passes Senate

Keep calling, folks.

3 posted on 11/19/2010 5:21:12 AM PST by lysie (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left- Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: lysie

Yes We saw it, it Passed with the help of these Republicans

Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Johanns (R-NE)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lugar (R-IN)
Snowe (R-ME)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)


4 posted on 11/19/2010 5:30:22 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning.

Our turkey went in the brine today for frying next week. MMM.

Garden goes to bed tomorrow. I have some chard and mustard to pick and then we till in some compost and plant clover for the season.


5 posted on 11/19/2010 5:36:14 AM PST by doodad
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning RD. I unloaded my compost bin on Monday and started another batch. I keep lawn clippings in plastic bags from the spring and summer for future composting.

We had another fried squash yesterday evening. I brought the leftovers for lunch today and looking forward to having that for lunch.

I know there are more peppers to pick this weekend. The jalapenos are not as hot as expected this year, and I have plenty of them this year. I will be pulling more radishes again and extras to take to church this weekend.


6 posted on 11/19/2010 5:37:05 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (De fund the TSA.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

it will be “undone” by the new gang, of this I am pretty sure


7 posted on 11/19/2010 5:38:00 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: lysie

I think we are in a freefall in this country and it’s only going to get a whole lot worse. It is going to be one hell of a rough ride folks.


8 posted on 11/19/2010 5:42:10 AM PST by spitter
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To: lysie

I have heard all sorts of rumors and short of actually reading the bill (which I won’t understand)can someone clear up the SB510 Food Safety bill rumors?

I thought it passed cloture in the senate recently - has it been put to a total senate vote?

Does it in fact control what you grow in your own garden?

Will I go to jail if I give someone a jar of homemade pickles?

Will there be veggie speakeasys?

I just looked on Senate.gov under s510 and I see that the vote was on the Motion to Proceed. This isn’t a final vote is it?


9 posted on 11/19/2010 5:51:38 AM PST by 30Moves
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning! It’s another frosty one in the Ohio Valley! I’m adding other layer to my lasagna garden just because of this deal: Aldi has 10 lb. bags of russet potatoes for 1.49 each. I didn’t grow potatoes this year, so I got three bags of them. The peels will go into the garden, I’ll chop, blanch, and freeze the potatoes tonight, and then food vac tomorrow.


10 posted on 11/19/2010 5:52:09 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning Red Devil, Just being the 2 of us old fogies we eat out. We might take in a movie or even wet a hook if the weather is nice afterwards. Hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving.


11 posted on 11/19/2010 5:53:15 AM PST by spitter
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To: DollyCali
it will be “undone” by the new gang, of this I am pretty sure

From your keyboard to God's ears.....

Does this have to pass the House as well? Or did it already?

12 posted on 11/19/2010 5:57:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

bump to read later.


13 posted on 11/19/2010 6:09:20 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Does anyone here have experience with fall/winter gardening in Florida? I have some questions that I may need answering.

The main one is garden location. Mine is on the north side of the house and in the winter half of it does not get very much sunlight. In this half, I planted the lettuce, spinach, carrots, beets, radishes, and a broccoli plant. the other half gets more light, but is pretty well shaded in the morning. I have pine/scrub on the lot east of my house so that blocks the sun in the morning until about 11am (a guess as I am never home in the morning.) My main concern with siting it was overcoming my laziness to go out and water it along with keeping my plants from getting scorched by the sun like they did in the spring garden.

Should I move it slightly further to the north so that I can get some of the sun blocked by the house? I have a sq ft garden, so it shouldn’t be too difficult to move it when the winter gardening season is over. Perhaps I should build a second 4x4 box to the north of the one I have already so that I can plant more sun-lo0ving plants in the winter?

Aside from that, the plants seem to be growing quite well. The beans I planted are leafing out quite nicely. The tomato plant I bought from Homie D has some flowers forming on it as we speak, the tomato seeds I planted have sprouted and have some nice little seedlings coming up. All the broccoli I planted has come up - unlike in spring. Same goes for the lettuce and spinach. All three got burned out by the April and May sun I believe. The bush beans are thriving (Blue Lake are a family favorite for gardening in WI and at my grandad’s winter home here.) I tried sowing the radishes and carrots together this time and all of them seem to have come up - the radishes even have some fruit forming. My biggest worry as far as light is concerned is the red beets. They look to my untrained eyes like they are starved for light, but I am not sure.

All advice is greatly appreciated!


14 posted on 11/19/2010 6:14:50 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: metmom

This bill passed in the House in 2009.


15 posted on 11/19/2010 6:14:57 AM PST by 30Moves
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To: 30Moves

Oh, dirty word.......


16 posted on 11/19/2010 6:15:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: goodwithagun

We had a heavy frost last night here in Massachusetts. I was up at 6:45, and it was 28 degrees. Our new puppy didn’t know what to make of it.


17 posted on 11/19/2010 6:21:31 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metmom

Glenn is talking about that food bill now.


18 posted on 11/19/2010 6:25:29 AM PST by lysie (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left- Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: 30Moves

Democratic Senator Jon Tester of Montana has put forth an amendment that would allow farmers who make less than $500,000 a year in revenue and sell directly to consumers, restaurants, or grocery stores within 275 miles of their farms to avoid the expensive food safety plans required of the larger operations. State and local authorities would still have oversight over the farms. The Senate will finalize the vote on the bill after Congress’ Thanksgiving recess.


19 posted on 11/19/2010 6:25:51 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Frozen meat sucks. No excuse for not cooking fresh turkey this time of year.


20 posted on 11/19/2010 6:28:20 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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