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1 posted on 10/14/2010 3:19:27 PM PDT by decimon
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To: steelyourfaith

Unchartered ping.

Don’t know if Kathryn Hansen is related to James Hansen. Tried web searches without result.


2 posted on 10/14/2010 3:21:24 PM PDT by decimon
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Yeah! I’m gonna believe this. God screwed up when he put plants and trees that produce C02 in our world.


3 posted on 10/14/2010 3:21:36 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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“a new atmosphere-ocean climate modeling study”

Garbage in, garbage out.


4 posted on 10/14/2010 3:22:37 PM PDT by Omedalus
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Garbage in - garbage out. Findings of a defective computer climate model, from what I’ve seen none have projected a track record that resembles the recent “global warming” history - they’ve so far failed at modeling the earth’s climate, by far.


6 posted on 10/14/2010 3:27:15 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html

7 posted on 10/14/2010 3:29:46 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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This is from the (former) space agency that now exists with the number one mission of making muslims feel good about their contributions to math and science.


8 posted on 10/14/2010 3:31:47 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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I'll give these guys credit for being persistent, but little else. The AGW bandwagon is faltering badly so it's time to pull another study out of their rear-end which will really show’em.

Isn't Hansen and the rest of NASA now pretty much tied up with Islamic outreach? They really do the Muslim thing much better than climate science.

9 posted on 10/14/2010 3:33:59 PM PDT by bereanway
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This is just a scam to get funding to keep busy until he retires.
10 posted on 10/14/2010 3:35:46 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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More lies from the leftists that lie for satan.

LLS


11 posted on 10/14/2010 3:38:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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CO2 level changes FOLLOW temperature changes, not the other way around. That was one of the big farces of AlGore’s movie.


12 posted on 10/14/2010 3:40:53 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6855

CO2 Concentration

“The notion of low pre-industrial CO2 atmospheric level, based on such poor knowledge, became a widely accepted Holy Grail of climate warming models. The modelers ignored the evidence from direct measurements of CO2 in atmospheric air indicating that in 19th century its average concentration was 335 ppmv.”

15 posted on 10/14/2010 3:44:09 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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Anthropogenic Co2 is .1% of greenhouse gas, this “research” is totally preposterous. GG keeps us from freezing to death.


16 posted on 10/14/2010 3:47:03 PM PDT by omega4179 (Rino hunt 2010!)
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Just as soon as the model explains how human activity increased the surface temperature on Mars, I’ll be ready to believe it, or begins to account for the sunspot cycle...


18 posted on 10/14/2010 3:53:29 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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Nonsense. If this were true, we would have had a temperature runaway (freezing or boiling), hundreds of millions of years ago, and the Earth would not be livable now.


20 posted on 10/14/2010 4:20:29 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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None of these models have ever been able to "predict" the past. A model which can "predict" the past may be able to predict the future. One which cannot "predict" the past has no chance of predicting the future.
21 posted on 10/14/2010 4:24:20 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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Yet, the decrease in total CO2 over time is projected to make the Earth unliveable sometime in the next 100 million to one billion years.

from: Science Daily

As the sun has matured over the past 4.5 billion years, it has become both brighter and hotter, increasing the amount of solar radiation received by Earth, along with surface temperatures. Earth has coped by reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, thus reducing the warming effect. (Despite current concerns about rising carbon dioxide levels triggering detrimental climate change, the pressure of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has dropped some 2,000-fold over the past 3.5 billion years; modern, man-made increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide offset a fraction of this overall decrease.)

I would also add to this that the hypothesis of CO2 forced warming has some major flaws that seem to flout the laws of thermodynamics. First, in order to increase the temperature, the Earth system energy must be somehow increasing over and above what it receives from the sun. Second, the "trapping" of infrared by CO2 is a transient event, on the order of nanoseconds, IIRC. That's just not enough to cause a long, slow increase in temperature--or even a short, rapid increase. Nor is the trapping directional--CO2 absorbs IR coming from any direction and re-emits it in all directions, making the net effect null anyway.

22 posted on 10/14/2010 4:42:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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Wait just a darned minute here! I thought this “fact” was already settled science? Why then are we now hearing about a study that shows what was already known?


23 posted on 10/14/2010 4:43:07 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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Note to all:

Earth once had an atmospheric CO2 level some 10 times present levels.

Temperatures were mild.

Where did all the CO2 go? Well, some of it became limestone. South Florida has about 14,000 feet of limerock beneath it.


24 posted on 10/14/2010 4:50:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: decimon

ping GW


26 posted on 10/14/2010 5:07:32 PM PDT by TNoldman (Call 1911 not 911!)
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That is absolutely absurd. Junk science.

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

That article takes Greenhouse Theory at face value and by the criterion set up in the theory itself finds no evidence of warming on the basis of greenhouse effect.

The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to 'take back climate science'

It Is Impossible For A 100 ppm Increase In Atmospheric CO2 Concentration To Cause Global Warming

Those four articles each show that Greenhouse Theory has no basis in reality due to a direct conflict with the known laws of physics. No wonder the smoking gun "hotspot" can't be found.

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

That article pretty much puts the kibosh on any serious trend of planetary warming from any cause. Think about it. If there is absolutely no sign at all of rising sea levels how could the planet be warming? Beyond the centuries long slow warming of the earth and rising of the seas of course. But that is only a few millimeters per century due to the inter-glacial period we are in.

27 posted on 10/14/2010 5:30:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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