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Settled science?: Could all of the percentages below really be correct?
tomnelson.blogspot.com ^ | August 6, 2010 | Tom Nelson

Posted on 08/07/2010 11:44:04 PM PDT by caveat emptor

Settled science?: Could all of the percentages below really be correct? A huge math problem, and sanity check, for alarmists: If you could ever sort out the top hundred natural and anthropogenic causes of the 20th century warming, the sum of the contributions would have to be about 100%. If you get a number like 1200%, something's wrong.

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TOPICS: Science; Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hogwash
The references are linked to the claims:

AFP: McCartney calls for meat-free day to cut CO2

McCartney, a longtime environmental campaigner, told the EU magazine that there is "clear" evidence that meat production is "major contributor" to climate change. ... "A lower-meat diet could see greenhouse gases reduced by as much as 80 per cent," he said.

6 Things You Should Repair Instead of Replace

...experts estimate that 44% of U.S. global warming emissions are due to products and packaging.

Climate Change - What you can do about climate change and global warming: Tips from a Nature Conservancy Scientist

In the United States, automobiles produce over 20 percent of total carbon emissions...electricity generation produces 40 percent of carbon emissions from the United States.

Global Oceans Show Potentially Devastating Effects of Climate Change

The ocean has absorbed about 30 percent of human-produced carbon dioxide to date

GlobalWarming.House.Gov | Issues | Global Warming

Buildings currently account for 38 percent of carbon emissions in the United States—more than either the transportation or industrial sectors—and consume 70 percent of the electricity.

Deforestation: The Leading Cause of CO2 Emissions

The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) reported in October 2006 that deforestation accounts for 25 to 30 percent of the release of greenhouse gases

Methane – A Ticking Bomb | Global Warming Basics | Allianz Knowledge

Contribution to Human-Induced Climate Change: 23 percent

HowStuffWorks "Do cows pollute as much as cars?"

Agriculture is responsible for an estimated 14 percent of the world's greenhouse gases.

Ordinary Soot a Major Cause of Global Warming : News

Soot, or black carbon, may be responsible for 15 to 30 percent of global warming

There's more.

1 posted on 08/07/2010 11:44:09 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: caveat emptor

“Could all of the percentages below really be correct? A huge math problem, and sanity check,”

Oh not to worry. There is a simple explanation.
It is called Marxist Math.


2 posted on 08/07/2010 11:49:29 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: caveat emptor

First, PROVE that globull warming even exists. Use real data, Beatle boy. Otherwise, STFU McCartney.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 12:00:15 AM PDT by datura (Stop Obamunism.)
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To: AlexW

Million Man Marxist Methane Mega Math!


4 posted on 08/08/2010 12:04:13 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: caveat emptor
He always was the dumbest Beatle.

Greenhouse theory is pure bunkum.

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to 'take back climate science'

It Is Impossible For A 100 ppm Increase In Atmospheric CO2 Concentration To Cause Global Warming

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

5 posted on 08/08/2010 12:11:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: caveat emptor
Let's see what I can do with the doublespeak:

The average level of CO2 is less than half of what is measured at any particular point in time and increases with the levels of CO2 actually measured by several percentage points. Such variation is fully in line with predictions that variation would be produced by the unevenness of contributing factors.

Of course I don't have the training “climate scientists” do.

6 posted on 08/08/2010 12:22:48 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
“Of course I don't have the training “climate scientists” do.”

Just with the crowd I run with, you'll find that the pros in the “hard” sciences question whether climatology is a science at all.

We have a whole sect, that views the majority of their science to be modeling complex systems. Well and good, but the problem is the disturbingly poor performance of their models at describing the actual systems. In a disturbingly high percentage of cases, the models and actual observations are not in accordance.

As for me, I figure the climatology simulators are basing their models on faulty PC premises. But that's just me.

7 posted on 08/08/2010 12:39:28 AM PDT by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: Habibi

I had a long and tiresome ‘discussion’ with a chick from Cnada who claimed that computer modeling was hard science. She also claimed to have advanced degrees, but I doubt she did. I kept demanding proof of her claims, she got totally pissed off and would not respond. LOL!


8 posted on 08/08/2010 2:04:28 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Habibi
In a disturbingly high percentage of cases, the models and actual observations are not in accordance.

That is because they do not even understand what they are modeling. They need to drop the silly metric of temperature without bias for humidity. And then start to use the heat content metric. Then they would at least be using the right metric. Then they would need to start monitoring the heat content of oceans across all depths. The atmosphere heat content is secondary. By monitoring the temperature of the atmosphere and ignoring ocean heat content across all depths, they came up with the incorrect conclusion that El Nino means the Earth is warming. During an El Nino the Earth is simply transferring heat content from the Pacific Ocean to the Atmosphere. Would like to suggest they start thinking outside their ape cages. This planet does not travel around the ape.

9 posted on 08/08/2010 2:11:58 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: caveat emptor

Could it really be guesses by today’s Scientists... Surely not, since Science requires proof...or maybe today it does NOT.

Oh well, they can produce their Theories though and that is fine, just state them as theories. The problems occur when they want us to spend trillions to prevent something that is just theory. Come on folks, you may actually believe these theories but when it bankrupts nations, can’t you be at a least bit skeptical? How about when those that proclaim these problems stand to make millions?

What, no skeptics yet... Just what does it take anyway...


10 posted on 08/08/2010 2:31:46 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Islander7

Typical. I wonder if music boy would like to have a math shootout with Burt Rutan.

http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm

Burt has this nasty habit of getting his number right.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 3:47:29 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: caveat emptor; DollyCali; IrishCatholic; meyer; SteamShovel; Desdemona; grey_whiskers; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 08/08/2010 4:14:37 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: Habibi

Agreed. GIGO. Cheers!


13 posted on 08/08/2010 6:34:29 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: datura

Global warming an Mann-made. Micheal Mann made it up.


14 posted on 08/08/2010 6:50:13 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Islander7
‘discussion’ with a chick from Cnada who claimed that computer modeling was hard science

If so, science has really slid, like Senator Moynihan wrote "Defining deviancy down". What used to be considered less than real science is now considered "real hard science".

Where are the greenhouse experiments, complete with a scale model of the earth, oceans, "greenhouse" atmosphere (including water vapor), and sun equal radiation field, etc.?

Why is Mars cold?

Why is mars warming?

Models (that have not been manipulated for PC outcomes) do nothing more than scientific guesses based on assumptions and a limited variable field...a variable field that can be handled. In reality, the assumptions may be wrong, the variable field may be inadequate and may exclude variables that are important. In other words, the model could and most likely is wrong, especially the farther out in time from t=0 you go.

The other part of the "hard science" of climatology that is a farce is the trending. Any 10th grade student can trend data and make graphs in excel or even on paper. How is trending real science? The answer is the data that goes into the trends. But as we see, they are manipulating the data that goes into the trends to steer the outcome. So the publicly disclosed GW research is not real science, it is a fraudulent 10th grade science fair project, complete with plagiarized information for the purpose of manipulating public policy and obtaining a steady stream of grant money.

In short, it is fraud on a massive scale and should be prosecuted. Instead, the Obama administration is embracing the fraud.

15 posted on 08/08/2010 8:28:59 AM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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