Posted on 07/18/2010 11:54:11 AM PDT by Errant
Video of Hickok45 shooting, showing, & discussing the history of this handy little piece of history.
Not a bad 15 min video if you're a fan of the M1 carbine or a military firearm enthusiast.
My dad earned his AF expert marksman badge with the M1 carbine and he loved shooting it. He killed several deer with his universal built model and I've taken several running wild hogs with it. I like to shoot it now and then just to bring back old memories.
I have a Winchester M1 Carbine original with early sight, early type 1 band (no bayonet mount) high-wood I-hole stock. It is the second best example of my Carbine collections (the first is an all-original Inland paratrooper model).
Regardless, the weapon he had was very nice.
That Sig dot prolly set you back as much as the gun. Sweet.
Hunting deer or hogs in those days consisted of flushing them out of brush along streams and you had to be fast on the draw to even get a shot. He shot a standing large 8-point buck he had surprised in the neck with a hollow point and the deer fell in place. Most of the neck was destroyed.
Nice gun in the picture....The only accessories I have with the Winchester are the sling and a later applied stock mag pouch....there weren’t many accessories added to these early on. The getup in the picture looks like a Vietnam era night vision setup on a much newer version of stock (low wood with 4 rivet top piece and a bayonet mount....
I remember when you can buy them at Sears for less than $100.
Remember Chuck Heston taking out Brotherhood mutants from the rooftop with that rifle (M3 Carbine?) in “The Omega Man”?
I had to go online and view a video of how to dissasemble it. It's not easy unless you've been shown how to do it.
I’ve been building and collecting them for years. Have 6 very nice ones. A couple of great books are “War Baby” and “War Baby Comes Home”.....I use them constantly in checking what, where, when as I come across various opportunities....It allows me to see deals that are real at gun shows and those that are just BS put-togethers from unscrupulous vendors.
I do the same thing for Garands and have as many, but they are a little more complicated in terms of variants and options.
He was an F-84, F-86 & F-100 crew chief in the AF during the Korean War and after, but spent most of his time at Luke helping to keep training aircraft flying.
I love that movie; guess I’ll have to go see for myself... ;)
If I were a millionaire, the first thing I would do is to find out how to build up a kit of an F-86 jet RC plane......I saw one once...it was just outright awesome flying...
;)
Plenty of them out there, especially with functioning RC jet engines.
However, look for videos of the scale B-52 (RIP) that made both a dramatic entrance upon and EXIT FROM the RC scene.
It was a thing of beauty, while it lasted.
There was a video I saw of a larger scale B-17 RC at a field in England, I think...it was truly neat...
I have a Marlin Levermatic chambered in this round, and I like it.
My dad was issued an M-1 carbine as a 2nd looey leading a rifle platoon during the Korean war. He discovered quickly that it would stop working if it got dirty (for example, with dirt thrown up by an artillery strike). He threw it away, and took an M-1 Garand and ammo from a dead soldier, and carried that thereafter.
He spoke poorly of the carbine, and highly of the Garand and BAR the rest of his life.
That looks like the night scope used in the film, but it was mounted on a BAR.
The United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1 is a funny weapon. GI’s either loved it or hated it. My father, a WWII ETO vet with the 28th ID, didn’t have much use for them, as he found a Garand or BAR better at penetrating cover in the forests and urban areas of France and Belgium.
Others, especially in the Pacific, thought it was just the ticket. They made six million of the little buggers, so somebody liked them.
It’s odd that the Korean war functioning issues seem so prevalent when you don’t here much about this during WWII. I suspect that it’s a combination of cold weather and the condition of the little rifles when pulled out of mothballs.
A gunked up gas piston (not something a soldier in the field was expected to maintain), weak recoil spring, or any application of grease instead of oil will hurt reliability, and I think the WWII fifteen round mags were probably more reliable than the Korean era thirty rounders. I don’t think the NK or Chinese soldier were any tougher than German or Japanese soldiers of WWII, and some modern testing on ball ammo vs. frozen clothing has pretty much dispelled the winter clothing stops the Carbine round myth
I also think a lot of the reports of NK soldiers taking hits from carbines and shrugging them off have to do with full auto M3 carbines simply not putting rounds on target, or GIs using the rifle beyond the practical effective range of 200 yards or less.
Somebody will probably chime in and claim the round won’t stop grandma if she’s cranky, but accounts from the likes of Jeff George and Jim Cirrilo seem to indicate otherwise, and from a logical standpoint, the ballistics at short range are a better than a .357 Magnum.
It’s a fun rifle to shoot as a plinker, and with 110 grain HP rounds, I’d not sneer at it as personal defense weapon.
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