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Dark energy may not exist in space, scientists claim
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| Tuesday, June 15, 2010
| Heidi Blake
Posted on 06/22/2010 3:48:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: James C. Bennett; OldDeckHand
What is your point or your agenda there JCB, no one knows how hold the Earth is.
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posted on
06/22/2010 4:48:40 PM PDT
by
valkyry1
To: valkyry1
I believe they do..approx 4.6 billion years, according to carbon dating, I believe.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:02:30 PM PDT
by
brivette
To: OldDeckHand
Somewhere Halton Arp may be grinning right now.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:04:01 PM PDT
by
The Cajun
(Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
To: SunkenCiv
“But scientists now claim that the waves of radiation which were previously measured at about twice the size of the full moon may in fact be less than half that size.”
Does this mean that instead of twice the size of the full moon, it is less than the size of the full moon, or less than half the size of the moon?
If it is the former, that would still seem to only indicate that we can account for 8% of the universe, instead of 4%.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:27:51 PM PDT
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
(Two New Episodes of 'Futurama', this June 24th, on Comedy Central)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
All we can be sure of is, the speed of light is a little less than the speed of dark, because when the lights come on, dark is never seen leaving the room.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:38:25 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: The Cajun
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:39:52 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: brivette
It’s not RC dating, it’s Uranium-series dating that is used.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:41:38 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:43:34 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: Moonman62
As Steve Stills once sang, nobody’s right when everybody’s wrong.
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:47:29 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
As Manfred Man used to sing, There she was just a-walkin’ down the street, singin’ “Do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do”
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posted on
06/22/2010 5:56:56 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: James C. Bennett
The whole expansion of the universe into a void which is somehow not the universe, is a concept thats hard for me to assimilate.This is not implied by a Riemannian ( i.e. curved ) time-space continuum. It can be thought of as "all that there is" just as well as a traditional "flat" time-space continuum.
Conversely, a flat 3-space can be thought of as a slice of a 4-space, and in fact this was a very popular notion in Victorian times as a physical justification of the "spirit world", which shared a universal time measure with familiar 3-space.
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posted on
06/22/2010 6:47:45 PM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: Moonman62
“Shanghai Lil never used the pill, she claimed that it wasn’t natural” — Rod Stewart
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posted on
06/22/2010 7:26:44 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
Wow; pretty cool. I’m a rank outsider when it comes to physics more complicated than falling off a log (I know that one’s due to gravity!), but I’ve always had a sneaking feeling that dark matter and dark energy were just a little too much like the old Aether to really sit well with a modern theory of the universe. Perhaps now we’ll either see that we’ve just re-invented Aether 2.0, or else we’ll get the “dark” components on a more supportable foundation.
Thanks for posting!
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posted on
06/22/2010 7:29:53 PM PDT
by
Oceander
(The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
To: dr_lew
I’ll try to work on that as soon as I’m home. Thanks for the explanation!
To: SunkenCiv
This raises the possibility that the "dark side" of the cosmos does not exist...
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posted on
06/22/2010 8:55:55 PM PDT
by
JRios1968
(The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
To: Moonman62
How will they explain away the High-z Supernova Search Team results? You sure it's not just an anomaly? /Carlo Rubbia pun>
Cheers!
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posted on
06/22/2010 9:29:29 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: SunkenCiv
As Steve Stills once sang, nobodys right when everybodys wrong. Redshift measurements may be right some or even most of the time, but they sure aren't right all of the time. Arp has proved that (IMHO) a number of times despite being ridiculed by his so called learned peers.
Basic questions about his observations need to be answered instead of just ignoring them and whistling past the graveyard.
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posted on
06/22/2010 9:40:27 PM PDT
by
The Cajun
(Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
To: The Cajun
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posted on
06/23/2010 8:56:04 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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