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Veteran pilots killed in plane crash
The Bakersfield Californian ^ | March 17, 2010 | Steve E. Swenson

Posted on 03/18/2010 3:42:32 PM PDT by EveningStar

Two veteran pilots -- one a Bakersfield-based national champion in 2004 at a Reno air show -- were killed Wednesday in a World War II vintage airplane they've flown countless times before, according to friends at the crash scene in a canal and open farm field behind the Frito Lay plant.

Al Goss, 68, the owner of the blue North American AT-6 (Advanced Training) "Texan" that was based in Shafter's Minter Field, and Steven Ballard, 54, a FedEx pilot from Anchorage, Alaska who worked on Goss's "Warlock team" at Minter Field, died at 11:34 a.m. when the AT-6 broke into several pieces, reported friends and the Kern County coroner's staff.

(Excerpt) Read more at bakersfield.com ...


TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: algoss; aviation; bakersfield; obituary; planecrash; renoairraces; t6; warlock; warlock75
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Back in 2007 at the Reno Air Races, Marilyn Dash brought me to Al Goss's Warlock pit and introduced him to me. He was a wonderful guy and he will be missed.

Blue skies, Al.

In Loving Memory.... Al Goss

Pilot was beloved brother, mentor, 'fun-loving flyboy'

1 posted on 03/18/2010 3:42:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Paleo Conservative; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; ...

Aviation ping

I don’t run this ping list. I copied it from Aeronaut’s profile page.


2 posted on 03/18/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: EveningStar; B4Ranch

Prayers for family and FRiends. Thanks for the Ping ES...


3 posted on 03/18/2010 3:47:35 PM PDT by tubebender (Tagline... I don't need no stinkin Tagline)
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To: EveningStar

Al Goss met him once will remember him forever. Mrs. Al baby and I were there the same year and he gave us shade and cold water to watch Dasher Race


4 posted on 03/18/2010 3:51:03 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: EveningStar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNSCxLBUBOw


5 posted on 03/18/2010 3:52:45 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: EveningStar

Blue Skies, Al Goss.

Warlock was always a favorite at Reno.

Prayers and well wishes to Al’s family.


6 posted on 03/18/2010 3:58:06 PM PDT by hattend (The era of John McCain is over, the era of Ronald Reagan is back! Go Sarah Go!)
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To: EveningStar

>> Troy Tenhet: ... the AT-6 broke into several pieces ... the crash made no sense unless something mechanical broke ...Nothing on the plane was old except the frame ... [the pilot] would take no risks.”

>> Witnesses: ... the plane was flying fast and fairly low when it dipped, came back up and then crashed ... it lifted up and it looked like it went up too fast and too quickly ... it just slipped backwards and went into the ground ... the plane went low, back up, then down and up again just before it crashed ...

After 47 years in the cockpit (I started flying at 18), holding an A&P, an ATP with 5 type ratings, having owned two long in the tooth airplanes (a 1946 Cessna 120 and, currently, a 1976 ASW-19 glider), and after having lost 7 friends in crashes, I have grown tired if the likes of Mr. Tenhet’s comments.

Here are my comments:
1/ There are old pilots, and bold pilots, but no old,bold pilots.
2/ Aviation is unforgiving of carelessness and neglect.
3/ These aircraft were designed in the mid ‘30s an built out of ALLOY (read mixed-metal - as in “battery” in the presence of salt and moisture). Whatever happened to “I’m old, please be gentle with me”?


7 posted on 03/18/2010 4:15:08 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: EveningStar

>> Troy Tenhet: ... the AT-6 broke into several pieces ... the crash made no sense unless something mechanical broke ...Nothing on the plane was old except the frame ... [the pilot] would take no risks.”

>> Witnesses: ... the plane was flying fast and fairly low when it dipped, came back up and then crashed ... it lifted up and it looked like it went up too fast and too quickly ... it just slipped backwards and went into the ground ... the plane went low, back up, then down and up again just before it crashed ...

After 47 years in the cockpit (I started flying at 18), holding an A&P, an ATP with 5 type ratings, having owned two long in the tooth airplanes (a 1946 Cessna 120 and, currently, a 1976 ASW-19 glider), and after having lost 7 friends in crashes, I have grown tired if the likes of Mr. Tenhet’s comments.

Here are my comments:
1/ There are old pilots, and bold pilots, but no old,bold pilots.
2/ Aviation is unforgiving of carelessness and neglect.
3/ These aircraft were designed in the mid ‘30s an built out of ALLOY (read mixed-metal - as in “battery” in the presence of salt and moisture). Whatever happened to “I’m old, please be gentle with me”?


8 posted on 03/18/2010 4:15:24 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

I heard from a reliable source that crew chief Steve Ballard was piloting and Al Goss was in the back seat.


9 posted on 03/18/2010 4:22:32 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: QBFimi

Is it possible the oscillations were caused by a pilot who had a stroke, heart attack, or other medical syndrome which caused him to lose control?


10 posted on 03/18/2010 4:29:29 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: EveningStar

Very, very, very sad news for all who knew him. Prayers for Baby Goss...


11 posted on 03/18/2010 4:47:24 PM PDT by teenyelliott (www.thewaterrock.com)
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To: teenyelliott

I agree, and nice to see you, Teeny. :)


12 posted on 03/18/2010 4:56:25 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: QBFimi; stylecouncilor
a 1976 ASW-19 glider ping
13 posted on 03/18/2010 5:54:59 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: GladesGuru

>> Is it possible the oscillations were caused by a pilot who had a stroke, heart attack, or other medical syndrome which caused him to lose control?

Well, it’s hard to speculate - we won’t have the accident report for quite a while - but if I were to hazard a guess, I’d say it would more likely be the result of the dreaded “watch this” syndrome (normally associated with our more Southerly compatriots). If it were a heart attack, I’d say that the other pilot could probably force the stick where he wanted to in that case.


14 posted on 03/18/2010 5:58:20 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: onedoug

>> Se dice: “Es de bien nacido, ser agradecido.”

And so I am - I treasure the years I spent with these aviators, I mourn their passing, and I long for the years we could have spent since their last days on earth.

R.I.P.:
Les Bennett and crew - Santa Cruz, Bolivia
Bruce Balkum - Florida Everglades
Pat Spomer and fiancé - Tenerife
Atlanta Skylarks (Independent Air) crew - Azores,
and two fellow airline pilots in airshow aircraft


15 posted on 03/18/2010 6:13:23 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

I’ll speculate:

The lady witness said the plane crossed the highway headed west at low altitude then turned and came back across the highway to the east.

Al Goss was a crop duster pilot.

Sounds like he was doing some mock dusting didn’t see a power line.

We won’t know for sure for some months


16 posted on 03/18/2010 6:50:06 PM PDT by hattend (The era of John McCain is over, the era of Ronald Reagan is back! Go Sarah Go!)
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To: QBFimi

but if I were to hazard a guess, I’d say it would more likely be the result of the dreaded “watch this” syndrome (normally associated with our more Southerly compatriots).

IIRC, that is “Hold Muh Beer”, followed soon after by “Now, Ya’all Watch This!” syndrome.

The Coroner’s report should be ready much sooner than the FAA’s report.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 7:56:32 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

bookmark


18 posted on 03/18/2010 8:23:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: EveningStar

RIP.


19 posted on 03/19/2010 2:02:16 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: hattend

I went to the site. No powerlines.


20 posted on 03/25/2010 3:38:22 PM PDT by BillyA
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