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Fact-based climate debate
L.J.World ^ | December 16, 2009 | Lee C. Gerhard

Posted on 12/17/2009 3:12:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is crucial that scientists are factually accurate when they do speak out, that they ignore media hype and maintain a clinical detachment from social or other agendas. There are facts and data that are ignored in the maelstrom of social and economic agendas swirling about Copenhagen.

Greenhouse gases and their effects are well-known. Here are some of things we know:

• The most effective greenhouse gas is water vapor, comprising approximately 95 percent of the total greenhouse effect.

• Carbon dioxide concentration has been continually rising for nearly 100 years. It continues to rise, but carbon dioxide concentrations at present are near the lowest in geologic history.

• Temperature change correlation with carbon dioxide levels is not statistically significant.

• There are no data that definitively relate carbon dioxide levels to temperature changes.

• The greenhouse effect of carbon dioxide logarithmically declines with increasing concentration. At present levels, any additional carbon dioxide can have very little effect.

We also know a lot about Earth temperature changes:

• Global temperature changes naturally all of the time, in both directions and at many scales of intensity.

• The warmest year in the U.S. in the last century was 1934, not 1998. The U.S. has the best and most extensive temperature records in the world.

• Global temperature peaked in 1998 on the current 60-80 year cycle, and has been episodically declining ever since. This cooling absolutely falsifies claims that human carbon dioxide emissions are a controlling factor in Earth temperature.

• Voluminous historic records demonstrate the Medieval Climate Optimum (MCO) was real and that the “hockey stick” graphic that attempted to deny that fact was at best bad science. The MCO was considerably warmer than the end of the 20th century.

• During the last 100 years, temperature has both risen and fallen, including the present cooling. All the changes in temperature of the last 100 years are in normal historic ranges, both in absolute value and, most importantly, rate of change.

Contrary to many public statements:

• Effects of temperature change are absolutely independent of the cause of the temperature change.

• Global hurricane, cyclonic and major storm activity is near 30-year lows. Any increase in cost of damages by storms is a product of increasing population density in vulnerable areas such as along the shores and property value inflation, not due to any increase in frequency or severity of storms.

• Polar bears have survived and thrived over periods of extreme cold and extreme warmth over hundreds of thousands of years — extremes far in excess of modern temperature changes.

• The 2009 minimum Arctic ice extent was significantly larger than the previous two years. The 2009 Antarctic maximum ice extent was significantly above the 30-year average. There are only 30 years of records.

• Rate and magnitude of sea level changes observed during the last 100 years are within normal historical ranges. Current sea level rise is tiny and, at most, justifies a prediction of perhaps ten centimeters rise in this century.

The present climate debate is a classic conflict between data and computer programs. The computer programs are the source of concern over climate change and global warming, not the data. Data are measurements. Computer programs are artificial constructs.

Public announcements use a great deal of hyperbole and inflammatory language. For instance, the word “ever” is misused by media and in public pronouncements alike. It does not mean “in the last 20 years,“ or “the last 70 years.” “Ever” means the last 4.5 billion years.

For example, some argue that the Arctic is melting, with the warmest-ever temperatures. One should ask, “How long is ever?” The answer is since 1979. And then ask, “Is it still warming?” The answer is unequivocally “No.” Earth temperatures are cooling. Similarly, the word “unprecedented” cannot be legitimately used to describe any climate change in the last 8,000 years.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: carbonhagen; climatechange; climatechangedata; climatechangefraud; climategate; copenhagen; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; gorebullhagen
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1 posted on 12/17/2009 3:12:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I just wanted to capture this....


2 posted on 12/17/2009 3:13:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here....this is a reply from PSU when I emailed them to fire Michael E. Mann.....look at how they addressed me.... I want everyone to 'capture' how OUR academic institutions are treating the Climate debacle....

I should add that the title she gave me was not mine...... Dear "Citizen of the Globe,"

Penn State is taking action, in accordance with University policy. For details, go to http://live.psu.edu/story/43356 online.

Annemarie > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 A Citizen of the Globe wrote:

> > >> Fire him! As long as he remains at PSU untouched by his deceit, your institution remains forever tarnished and rendered irrelevant, period!

>> >> Note: The question to webmaster@psu.edu was submitted via the web form at http://ask.psu.edu/psu.html by A Citizen of the Globe at XXX@XXXXXX.com. The topic selected was "General Information."

*** Annemarie Mountz Assistant Director of Public Information The Pennsylvania State University Department of Public Information 312 Old Main University Park, Pa. 16802 Ph: (814) 865-7517 Fax: (814) 863-3428 e-mail: AMountz@psu.edu

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3 posted on 12/17/2009 3:30:23 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I don’t want any facts.

Al Gore said the debate is over.

He said the polar bears are drowning as the ice caps melt.

Would Al Goreleone lie???????


4 posted on 12/17/2009 3:47:02 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Carbon dioxide concentration has been continually rising for nearly 100 years. It continues to rise, but carbon dioxide concentrations at present are near the lowest in geologic history.

Isn't this a self contradictory statement? What are they trying to say?

5 posted on 12/17/2009 3:50:46 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Scientific facts don’t matter...they never did...The agenda is about control, and that will NOT change!


6 posted on 12/17/2009 3:59:39 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think I see now. He is saying that CO2 levels at some periods over 100 years ago have been much higher.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 4:00:15 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We are at the far right side of this graph:
See what comes next?




One hell of a lot of shivering, that's what!!
8 posted on 12/17/2009 4:15:43 PM PST by djf (Islam is NOT a religion. Religion is about man and God. Islam is man vs. man, a political theory!)
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To: Gaffer

nice post


9 posted on 12/17/2009 4:25:41 PM PST by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; IrishCatholic; Darnright; Entrepreneur; livius; DollyCali; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 12/17/2009 4:30:06 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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