Dancing with Horses
Posted on 10/17/2009 5:22:27 PM PDT by jazusamo
RENO, Nev. - A new federal proposal to manage wild horses is rekindling debate over another fixture of the Western range: cattle.
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar last week proposed moving thousands of mustangs to preserves in the Midwest and East to protect horse herds and the rangelands that support them.
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Many horse defenders and others who had been working to save the romantic symbols of the American West and might have been expected to welcome Salazar's solution instead stampeded the other way. They want Salazar to remove livestock to make room for the mustangs and argue that cows are the real threat to the range and native wildlife.
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AR Nazis Ping!
Right envirowackos?
That’d be fine but being we don’t eat horsemeat they should reopen the horse slaughterhouses and start shipping frozen horsemeat to Europe again.
Having a cow, or maybe not having a cow is a better way to put it.
that would make them illegal aliens - er, undocumented workers.
You’re absolutely right and you’re in a better position to see it than most. Like you say, it’s not just the feral horses but the domestic ones people can no longer afford to take care of, there just isn’t a market for the number of horses being bred.
Several reservations here in the West have talked of starting a slaughterhouse to take care of too many horses running on their lands.
Presumably, the government is doing so in order to give the wackos on both sides something to scream about, and to kick the can down the road until the government is the only one left to solve the problems it's created.
Oh, btw, beef producers . . . check the price of beef, lately? You don't need the land, either.
Got a link?
LOL!
We’ve been through this before and you presume a lot. A link about Pickens and the govt blowing her off.
Or are you calling me a liar? In that case, please be specific so I can knock your ass back to Facebook.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean about exploiting animals. The majority of people eat meat in this country, do you consider growing and slaughtering beef for human consumption exploiting them?
Tough guy aren’t you. LOL!
No, not really. I’m up for a challenge, whenever it comes (still waiting).
Yes, what a dirty business it is to raise cows for slaughtering is!!!! I live on a highway but it is in a very affluent area and I pay top buck to live here. Everyday, I see slaughter truck after slaughter truck after slaughter truck drive by. The poor cows are so pathetic looking! I can't take it anymore, I want to get out of here to where I never have to see a poor cow going to the slaughter again! God help the poor cows that have been used for milk and then sent the slaughter. God help them!
You gotta be kiddin’ me. :)
If not, you better move.
BLM livestock grazing has declined by about 50 percent since 1941.
USFS likely even worse.
Owning remote farm land with good water rights seems like a good idea.
The AR , PETA , city liberals who want to subdivide the former range will fuss when their food prices go up.
It’s probably dairy farmers ditching their stock (as they have the right to do) . . . but don’t mind, someone will be by shortly to explain that a couple thousand wild horses are interfering with their God-given right to use public land to graze even more stock that we don’t need.
PETA’s Pet Killing Program Set a New Record in 2008.
Animal lovers worldwide now have access to more than a decade’s worth of proof that PETA kills thousands of defenseless pets at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. Since 1998, PETA has opted to “put down” 21,339 adoptable dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens instead of finding homes for them.
PETA killed 95 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2008, PETA found adoptive homes for just seven pets.
Just seven animals — out of the 2,216 it took in. PETA just broke its own record.
Why would an animal rights group secretly kill animals at its headquarters?
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
I am not kidding. I pray that I never see another slaughter truck in my life. Where I live must be slaughter HELL! The poor cows look like dogs going to be killed. Farmers are so callous that they do not even care about the animals that they have used for milk for years. Actually, they do care to a degree because they dump the slow milking cows at a halfway station and then some scumbag delivers the cows to the slaughter. Unfortunately, my brother used to be friends with 2 slaughterers and they said that all of the farmers used to beg them not to "hurt" their cows as they were dropping them off to be slaughtered. Now the "farmers" have a half way station to drop the cows at. Then the slaughter truck driving a**holes bring the pathetic cows to the slaughter.
I'm not kidding. I am in slaughter hell! Ofcourse, it doesn't help to know all of the slaughter stories that I have heard from the poor scum riders that have to work at "the slaughter." I never want to have to live near a slaughter house again.
Check out FCS/FBS. It is what every cancer cell is grown in for cancer research. I own a lab that makes the stuff. If people like you had your way about things there would be no research.
You don’t understand the program, pilgrim. First, we round these animals up, then we pass a law forbidding their (humane) slaughter, then we keep them alive at your expense, then we forbid them shelter, then we propose a government program to provide them shelter.
I like wild horses, myself. But I can only look in abject horror about the way this whole issue is being managed.
Research on animals? I also used to work at a nursing home which was attached to a "world renowned research center" and everyday I would hear the poor dogs that they were experimenting on; crying and crying. I remember seeing a poor old man resident who looked very sad at hearing the dogs crying, "What are they doing to the poor dogs?" and the poor old ma said, "they do everything to them. Mostly, they drug them up terribly."
It's called the "For Sale" sign.
I like beef and I'm going to keep eating it until the day I day. I just finished a fine piece of Filet Mignon covered with mushrooms sauteed in garlic, butter, (from cows)and olive oil with a side of creamy Parmesan (from cows) polenta.
Tomorrow I'm going to grill the leftover polenta and serve that with some home made breakfast sausage (from pigs), and some fried eggs (from chickens). Some fresh mango and strawberries on the side sounds good, too.
Apparently you've never seen what a rotary plow does to wildlife. For every single bite of food you put in your mouth somewhere there's a gut pile.
That's the fact.
Now I think I'll have a nice bowl of ice cream before bed.
Best,
L
Yep, the price will go up. Of course if PETA and their followers have their way we won’t have any beef raised in the country and those horses will have the range and all the city people can go on vacation once a year to gaze at the romantic symbols of the West. *shaking head*
Most Americans don't eat horse but I have heard it is good. Lots of cultures around the world eat it with relish. Some people eat dogs. I don't, but that is my decision. Our state also has too many sealions, and they also need to be culled. The natives used to eat them. After they were protected they have become way overpopulated.
Not long ago, these horse herds were managed. The BLM rounded them up and utilized them. Some were sold to people as pets and others were slaughter's and the meat was sold, and the herds still thrived.
Now our government wants to spend 3/4 of a billion dollars to round up an feed these animals in areas where the herds are too large. I don't think we need to do this, as the money should not be spent, and a new solution does not need to be utilized.
Good post and you’re right. I hunted a good many years in Eastern OR where there used to be wild horses but they disappeared some years back. Don’t know if BLM rounded them up or if ranchers shot them but they aren’t there now.
The calves used to produce FCS don’t make any noise, they don’t survive the process. When someone you love has cancer you are going to be very glad that people like me believe in science and research.
That is so true. The other day I was feeling so bad about the poor animals and then I went into WalMart. I am not kidding, I saw a woman from Burma with Food stamps and she and her extended family were buying what looked like an entire slaughtered animal laying on the check out counter. I never saw so much bloody meat in my life! It looked like at least a half of a poor pig and the best cuts of a poor cow. I thought to myself, I am fighting a loosing battle because here I am trying to cut down and not even eat any meat in goulash and these foreigners are being given food stamps to come in here and feed their entire 25 person family every cut of meat under the sun. I really feel like I am fighting a loosing battle. I am paying taxes so that these foreigners can gorge on slaugtered animals while I am eating pasta. The food stamp immigrants are living LARGE on the US taxpayer.
On that you and I can agree. I'm sick and tired of slackers living off my labors.
L
You are simply not getting it: we have forbidden the consumption of horse meat, and we have forbidden the slaughter of horses, therefore, we must warehouse them . . . but we can’t give them away to someone who wants them . . . therefore, again, the government must solve this intractable problem.
I agree. I’m not for getting rid of all the horses on public land but there’s way too many.
IMO, Congress should repeal the laws they’ve recently passed and allow horses to be slaughtered for human consumption and the meat sold in Europe. If people here want to eat it, all the better and it’ll be another market for it.
The BLM are corraling and feeding those horses with our tax dollars and it’s ridiculous, there’s too many horses.
I sighted in my rifle today for our elk hunt in the Murderers Creek unit that starts on the 26th. I bet I see my first wolf footprint this year.
Unmanaged wild horses are basically range maggots.
Pro horse nuts are intellectual maggots.
‘Nuff said.
Oh, I forgot - “EAT MORE HORSE”.
“Oh, btw, beef producers . . . check the price of beef, lately? You don’t need the land, either.”
Wrong - WE need the beef producers.
Whacko types produce no food, in case you haven’t noticed.
PS Given the price of arm length rubber gloves, it would be cost prohibitive to even try to dress and clean one of those things.
;-)
“God help the poor cows that have been used for milk and then sent the slaughter. God help them!”
Gina - call on the Holy Cow.
;-)
I absolutely agree. There are far too many emotional animal lovers getting involved in the management of wildlife, I believe they’re even some in higher positions in state game depts now and that’s pathetic.
The reintroduction of the wolf is a huge mistake, IMO. It’s going to hurt deer and elk herds a lot. Our wildlife did fine for the better part of a century without wolves but the furry animal lovers and econuts think we need them for the ecosystem, I say wrong.
I haven’t hunted in a few years due to health . I have never hunted the Murderers Creek unit, we always hunted the Silvies unit which abuts it. Good buck hunting and about 25 or 30 years ago the elk showed up so we didn’t want them to overpopulate and started hunting them also. :-)
It wouldn’t surprise me if you do see your first wolf print and good luck to you on your elk hunt.
LOL! I've never had the occasion to try it or I would have and you're right, unmanaged wild horses are good for nothing.
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