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Haitian Monument unveiled in Franklin Square[GA]
WTOC ^ | 13 Oct 2009 | Justin Burrows

Posted on 10/17/2009 6:03:50 AM PDT by BGHater

It took 9 years to complete the Haitian monument in Franklin Square, but it took 230 years for the people of Haiti to receive the proper recognition for their role in the Revolutionary War.

"The best moment in my life!" shouted Daniel Fils-Aime, who has seen this project through for those 9 years.

"This recognition is a reward for all Haitians whether they are in the U.S. or Haiti," said Ralph Latortue, the Haiti consulate general in Miami.

The monument was originally unveiled unfinished with only four statues in 2007, but thanks to a single-donor, the sculpture was recently completed, and presented on Saturday, with all six bronze statues.

"You're not going to find a monument dedicated to the Haitians anywhere else in the U.S. Now they're talking about doing some others, but this is it, this is #1, and that's a credit to our city," said city alderman Clifton Jones.

The monument represents the role that more than 500 Haitian volunteers played in the 1779 Battle of Savannah. A significant moment in the Revolutionary War, that according to Fils-Aime, has gone unnoticed.

"Was it not for the Haitians that came to Savannah, there would be no America today," said Fils-Aime.

"They were so important in the revolution of this country. I mean, we could be speaking with an English accent if it wasn't for the Haitians, quite frankly," said sculptor James Mastin.

And according to Alderman Jones, we should all be proud of the sacrifices represented by this monument.

"They volunteered and came here and shed their blood and died for the freedom of the United States," said Jones.

"I think it's a moment of pride. It's a moment of pride for all of us and every Haitian I know, are proud to be a part of U.S. History," said Latortue.

And now that history stands tall, for all to see.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: georgia; haiti; memorials; revolutionarywar; savannah
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'"I think it's a moment of pride. It's a moment of pride for all of us and every Haitian I know, are proud to be a part of U.S. History," said Latortue.'

Haitian Monument


1 posted on 10/17/2009 6:03:51 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: Pharmboy

I didn’t know, ping.


2 posted on 10/17/2009 6:04:16 AM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: BGHater

What the monument, and the article, fail to say is that the French-American siege of Savannah was a spectacular failure, with the British repulsing the main attack. The Haitian contribution meant little to the cause of Independence.


3 posted on 10/17/2009 6:29:03 AM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: CivilWarguy

The early parts of the War, is not noted for wide success. I only posted as a recognition of fighting tyranny; not all causes or incidents result in success.


4 posted on 10/17/2009 6:36:29 AM PDT by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: CivilWarguy

It’s not very “touchy feely” for you to say that.


5 posted on 10/17/2009 6:43:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BGHater

The statement on the monument is fairly accurate. The crap in the article is just that, crap.

The Siege of Savannah was more significant for Haiti than it was for America.


6 posted on 10/17/2009 6:51:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BGHater
"Was it not for the Haitians that came to Savannah, there would be no America today," said Fils-Aime.

Its not enough that they fought at all. They have to have won the revolution single handed.

Fils-Aime must be a product of US public schools..

7 posted on 10/17/2009 7:34:23 AM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: BGHater
second oldest after America, and it's still uncivilized
8 posted on 10/17/2009 7:34:54 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: BGHater

Haiti played a far more significant role in US history 25 years later.

During the Peace of Amiens Napoleon planned to take firm military control of Louisiana (Mississippi basin west of the river), with possible eventual invasion of the weak new Unites States east of the river.

To do so he needed a strong base of operations in Haiti, which had been engulfed in a multi-sided revolution/civil war for well over a decade. He moved in a massive army to conquer and re-enslave the Haitians.

Due to the effective resistance of the Haitian people and mosquitoes (yellow fever and malaria) the French army was nearly wiped out.

Without a Haitian base, control of Louisiana was impractical, plus war with UK was looming again and he’d be cut off from the Western Hemisphere by the Royal Navy anyway. So Boney sold the whole shebang to the USA to cut his losses.

Given the realities of trans-oceanic invasion, when that ocean was controlled by the RN, French invasion of the USA was never a serious threat. But had Haiti collapsed quickly and Boney moved into LA, there is a good chance the USA would have been forced into an alliance with UK and entanglement in the rest of the Napoleonic Wars.


9 posted on 10/17/2009 8:26:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: BGHater
Those who might be interested in simulating the siege of Savannah might be interested in GMTs "The Siege of Savannah"; combat Sim board game. Look it up on the internet.

Entertaining and informative.

We should remember that these men were free men at the time. They came to help in the cause just like all the other French Citizens that were with D'Estaing, just like the European French.

While they should not get any more honor than, say, Count Pulaski (who is WELL remember in Savannah), they should not get any less than him.

Just being here, even if they didn't fight (which they did), those people should get our undying gratitude for their sacrifice. The British certainly respected the fact that they were outside the works. They were a part of the whole that finally gave America its freedom.

Ok, the text was a little over the top. I don't think that it will hurt anything to give them this after what they gave America.

10 posted on 10/17/2009 8:27:07 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: BGHater; indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...
Thanks for posting, BGHater, and thanks for the ping. I knew that Haitians had volunteered and fought with the Patriots, but I was unaware of the extent.


Henry Christophe, who later led the Haitian
Revolution, was a drummer boy in the
Battle of Savannah

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list

11 posted on 10/17/2009 9:23:28 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

They need to get one up in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, Springfield Gardens, Queens, and North Miami, FL, three large centers of the Haitian diaspora.


12 posted on 10/17/2009 9:25:19 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: CivilWarguy

Careful, you’re revealing yourself.


13 posted on 10/17/2009 9:28:51 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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To: skeeter
"Was it not for the Haitians that came to Savannah, there would be no America today," said Fils-Aime.

That part I agree is a bit overblown.

14 posted on 10/17/2009 9:32:05 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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To: CivilWarguy

Talk about spectacular failures, if it weren’t for the incredible bravery and sacrifice of the Maryland 400, the Battle of Brooklyn might have ended the Revolution with the capture of Gen. Washington.


15 posted on 10/17/2009 9:33:46 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Clemenza

I had not realized Haitians were living near Empire Blvd. in Brooklyn...I always thought that was Jamaican. Thanks for the info.


16 posted on 10/17/2009 9:35:12 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Chode
second oldest after America, and it's still uncivilized

Very sad indeed. They need those 500 men back so they can do a clean sweep of the filth they have as leaders and start over.

17 posted on 10/17/2009 9:37:00 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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To: Pharmboy
The area around Empire Boulevard is heavily Jamaican, but you will find Haitians scattered in the streets off Eastern Parkway in Crown Heights. There is a sizeable population of Haitians in Canarsie as well (the formerly Italian parish there now has masses in Creole), but they are again outnumbered by folks from the Anglophone Caribbean.

The only places I can think of where Haitians truly are the dominant ethnic group are all in South Florida (North Miami, Lauderhill, North Lauderdale, etc.), but I believe that NYC still has more Haitians in terms of total numbers than SoFla.

18 posted on 10/17/2009 9:41:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: quesera
yup... their best and brightest are gone
19 posted on 10/17/2009 9:41:24 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: quesera

Its alot overblown. The Savannah campaign was a huge failure for the colonies, as another poster pointed out.


20 posted on 10/17/2009 9:43:23 AM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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