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CHAMBERLAIN BARS HITLER PLEDGES (10/4/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/4/39 | Raymond Daniell, Frank M. Garcia, Hugh Byas, P.J. Philip

Posted on 10/04/2009 6:01:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/04/2009 6:01:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm

2 posted on 10/04/2009 6:02:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Incidents in European Conflict – 2
Clash in Commons – 2-4
Janusz Radziwill is Reported Killed – 4
Nazis in Truck Interned On Wild Ride to Belgium – 4
Sea Raider Called ‘Pocketbattleship’ – 6-7
British Ships Defy South Atlantic Peril – 8
Tokyo Admits Defeat by Soviet; Calls Mongol Battle ‘Disastrous’ – 9
Army Buys 329 Speedy Tanks at $6,000,000; First Step in Mechanizing of Ground Forces – 9
War in the West Found Leisurely – 10-11
French Repulse German Raids on Saar; Gun Duel Reveals New Fort in Westwall - 12
3 posted on 10/04/2009 6:04:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/oct39/f04oct39.htm

Wednesday, October 4, 1939

Soviets to Communize eastern Poland

In Occupied Poland... Nikita Krushchev (Secretary of the Ukrainian Communist Party) announces the “Communisation” of eastern Poland.

In Germany... The Reichstag is summoned to meet on Friday, October 6th.
In Ireland... U-35 lands the 28-man crew of the torpedoed Greek transport, SS Diamantis, on the Kerry coast, in the southwest.

In Britain... Members of the Glamorgan Agricultural Committee met to voice concerns about “gossip and goings-on” between Land Army girls and soldiers billeted around the farms in the area. A strict 9 o’clock curfew was urged for the girls, aged 17 to 40. Alderman David Davis defended the women, saying: “They are good-looking English girls with the right spirit. Good girls do not need looking after.”


4 posted on 10/04/2009 6:08:06 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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CHAMBERLAIN LIVES!!!


5 posted on 10/04/2009 6:09:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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I’m just not up to posting Eleanor this morning. It’s hard to believe the US citizenry was exposed to that mindless babble for so many years...


6 posted on 10/04/2009 6:11:00 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?2636

Diamantis SS, Capt Pateras, a Greek merchant ship of 4.990 tons, carrying 7.700 tons of manganese from Freetown, West Africa to Barrow-in-Furness, UK was torpedoed on October 3rd, 1939 by the German U-boat U-35 (Capt Werner Lott) 40miles west of Scillies, off Lands End. As the weather was very rough, the U-boat warned the crew (by firing a gunshot) of the sinking. The crew of 28 panicked and went to the lifeboats. In the heavy seas, they all overturned. Capt. Werner Lott then amazingly managed to pick them all up. Then 3 torpedoes were launched and Diamantis sank in 20 minutes. The crew was landed by U-35 at Ventry Harbour, Dingle Bay, Ireland on October 4th, 1939. This noble action enjoyed worldwide attention in the media, but Capt. Werner Lott, was reprimanded by the U-Boat command for putting his U-Boat and crew in danger and breaching Ireland’s neutrality. November 29th, 1939, U-35 was sunk by the British, off Norway. The crew of U-35 was equally picked up by the British destroyers. More info on: http://www.u-35.com
id: 2636


7 posted on 10/04/2009 6:18:22 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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http://www.u-35.com/diamantis/index.htm

The sinking of the DIAMANTIS by U-35 on 03 October 1939, and subsequent related events.

(Lots of stuff here)


8 posted on 10/04/2009 6:20:18 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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I’m just not up to posting Eleanor this morning. It’s hard to believe the US citizenry was exposed to that mindless babble for so many years...

Not long on profundities, was she. One thing I noticed from yesterday was her mention of a series of concerts in New York sponsored by ASCAP to allay the gloom of war. I remember posting a times story about that but now I can't find it. Maybe someone else can place it.

9 posted on 10/04/2009 6:27:34 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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This noble action enjoyed worldwide attention in the media . . .

Including the New York Times. Read all about it tomorrow.

And haven't we established that Admiral Scheer was not in the Atlantic at this time and that it was Graf Spee which sank Clement (See image #7)?

10 posted on 10/04/2009 6:31:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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She was the originator of the “It’s For The Children®” meme, I suspect.


11 posted on 10/04/2009 6:33:18 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Janusz Radziwill is Reported Killed – 4

I assume a relative of Lee Radziwill's husband.

12 posted on 10/04/2009 6:34:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Baseball players hawking cigarettes?!?!?!?!


13 posted on 10/04/2009 6:35:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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And haven't we established that Admiral Scheer was not in the Atlantic at this time and that it was Graf Spee which sank Clement (See image #7)?

That is correct. The Spee and the Scheer were very similar in silhouette, so such a mistake is understandable. And, IIRC, the Kriegsmarine was deliberately trying to confuse which ships were where, even to the extent of sending fake radio traffic. It's been a while since I've read Dudley Pope's book, so I'm not for sure about that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_pocket_battleship_Admiral_Scheer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_pocket_battleship_Admiral_Graf_Spee

14 posted on 10/04/2009 6:44:07 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Baseball players hawking cigarettes

You've seen the ads where they used doctors to promote the health benefits of cigarettes, haven't you? I'll try to remember to look for some later. I've got to get ready for church now.

15 posted on 10/04/2009 6:55:39 AM PDT by PAR35
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Yes! Found it!

http://books.google.com/books?id=EIyI8rRlJmEC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_navlinks_s#v=onepage&q=&f=false

page 35

page 39


16 posted on 10/04/2009 6:59:34 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Pepsi was still promoting health benefits. I know they stopped that by the 50’s.


17 posted on 10/04/2009 7:12:24 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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Another point about “commerce raiding” by surface ships. The Scheer, Lutzow and Spee were designed for that role. Other ships were sent out also, notably the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. But Hitler was afraid to risk them very much, because the prospect of them being sunk would be a propaganda coup for Churchill.

So the money and men spent on the surface ships would have been more effective if Hitler had built more U-boats instead.

It could very well have been decisive. Churchill always said he was more afraid of the U-boat menace than anything else.


18 posted on 10/04/2009 7:16:46 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Waaahhh!!!

Class even on a Sunday?

(But thanks)

19 posted on 10/04/2009 7:56:55 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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Reading the speech of “Glasgow Laborite” George Buchanan, I reached the conclusion that Pat had to be related to him.


20 posted on 10/04/2009 8:01:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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