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Waiting for the Rapture while America goes down the tubes! Vanity

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom

Why is it that the forces of evil are well funded, well organized and determined to get what they want. While the believers in God are letting the enemies of God decide the future of our country?

It seems that too many people are living in the future, waiting for the Rapture. We have to look to the future but live in the present. I think too many Christians are too apathetic while the other side is energied.

Remember we have to hold down the fort until the calvary arrives. We can't just keep looking to the horizon while the fort is being surrounded and burned to the ground. What did Jesus say: "Occupy until I come." This doesn't mean living in the future. It means dealing with life as we find it day by day. It is fine to study the prophecies but we cannot use this as a form of escapism which I fear that many people do.

The churches have a great network for organization. What if someone printed up a Christian monthly newsletter to be distributed at Church? We cannot take for granted that people fully understand what is going on. I think human beings naturally are more interested in their immediate welfare rather than the big issues. They tend not to know what is going on until it is too late.

Have you ever heard of Tim Gill? He is a Colorado gay millionaire who has been single-mindedly defeating pro-family candidates in a number of states. Gill uses a very stealthy and deceptive method. He gives money to opponents of pro-family candidates. The voters are inundated with repeated mailings critical of the pro-family candidate. The mailings never mention anything about gay issues. Instead they just make general criticism of the pro-family candidate. Another thing that the voters do not know is that the opposition candidate has made an agreement with Gill to support gay causes in exchange for campaign money. How evil is that!

Meanwhile, many of the churches throughout our country fail to see how they can put their churches to work to counter this threat. Churches have natural social networks, a strong belief system and a method of collecting money for our causes. Instead it is the anti-God left that has all the organization and uses it to the ultimate degree. Wake up! What kind of country will our children inherit!


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: bho44; christians; endtimes; gayagenda; prophecy; rapture
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1 posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Meanwhile, many of the churches throughout our country fail to see how they can put their churches to work to counter this threat.
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No they can’t...they’ve sold themselves for their tax exempt status....what is that when a woman sells herself for money in return for favors??? A Whore? Oh wait..its a whore that does good deeds...that makes it ok. Separation of Church and State??? What a joke. Deception, Deception, Deception!!! We have been warned!!


2 posted on 04/07/2009 4:55:03 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: cradle of freedom

ah come one.. most churches have important things to do, like buy a new chandelier and organ while asking for more money. /sarc


3 posted on 04/07/2009 4:56:10 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: cradle of freedom

“While the believers in God are letting the enemies of God decide the future of our country?”

You really think that God can’t handle this? That’s not showing very much faith in God! :)

These things play out on HIS time line, not ours.

“Don’t tell God how big your troubles are; tell your troubles how BIG your God is.”


4 posted on 04/07/2009 4:56:55 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: cradle of freedom

You are deluded, like most others. There is no god. Your prayers are nothing more than whining. This nation is being destroyed, because the majority want it so. And no amount of supplication to your plastic jesus will stop them.


5 posted on 04/07/2009 4:58:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: cradle of freedom

I believe for this to happen, the church will need to go back to the example of Paul, and pastors will need to do other work for a living, while at the same time pastor a church. If the continued fall of the financial system deepens, this may come about. There will be many brothers and sisters in Christ who will need food, shelter, and encouragement, if the implosion some see coming, actually arrives. With Zero’s Civil Service plan of indoctrination along with prohibitions against sharing ones faith get implemented early enough, the church may have to go underground here right in the USA itself. See Canada for the beginning signs of persecution.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 5:07:01 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Old Sarge

Your words are poison. And they make about as much sense as Poison.

7 posted on 04/07/2009 5:09:42 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Old Sarge

“You are deluded, like most others. There is no god. “

You seem very sure of your position.

How do you know that to be true?


8 posted on 04/07/2009 5:10:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: cradle of freedom

Form of escapism, excellent way to put it.

My aunt and uncle are waiting on Jesus anyday now and when something bad happens, instead of fighting for what’s right, they say “All we do is wait until Jesus comes” and I think NO!

That’s what they did while they gassed Jews in Germany. That’s what they did while they burned Protestants in England. That’s what they did for 2000 years now!

I’ll be ready when Jesus comes, and in the mean time I’ll be ready to defend his flock. A shephard doesn’t just LEAD his flock, a shephard will FIGHT AGAINST THE WOLF TRYING TO GET TO HIS HERD!


9 posted on 04/07/2009 5:10:34 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: cradle of freedom

The rapture is post- or mid-tribulation at best.

Lots of work yet left to do.


10 posted on 04/07/2009 5:10:53 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Amen, LOL!


11 posted on 04/07/2009 5:11:37 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Old Sarge

You may be right this nation being destroyed, but it has nothing to do with God being unable to save.

God did not protect Israel and sent her into slavery for ignoring God’s laws. Americans have been mis-educated for so long, they no longer understand that nations can fall without a war. I do not believe God will save a nation that sacrifices its young on the altar to Molech.


12 posted on 04/07/2009 5:12:10 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Old Sarge

Plastic Jesus?????

Come on Sarge, what’s your beef? Our Jesus is not plastic. He was a man, born of a woman, and we just happen to believe much, much more. But, plastic???

To believe as you do has a much worse end - think North Korea. All of the worst and largest horrors have been perpetrated by the Godless. I’m thinking of what happens right now in North Korea and what happened before courtesy of Stalin who murdered way more people than even were killed in the Holocaust.


13 posted on 04/07/2009 5:12:20 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You really think that God can’t handle this? That’s not showing very much faith in God!

Maybe God wants to see how we handle this? If God just handled everything, the world would be much different. This is our proving ground.

14 posted on 04/07/2009 5:13:03 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This comes down to a basic question of faith - how much are we supposed to do as opposed to what God does. The farmer plants seed in the ground, waters it and tends to his plants until it is harvest time. That is the farmers responsibility. He doesn’t just pray to God to bring him a bountiful miraculous harvest without doing any work. If God did everything for us then we would do nothing for ourselves and we would not grow. We are supposed to take care of those things that are our responsibility such as tending to our families, communities and government, and God takes care of those things that are beyond our powers.


15 posted on 04/07/2009 5:13:12 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: TruthConquers

Nor will He continue to bless a people who turn their back on Israel. All of history is God’s. Its beginning and its end and all is ordained for His purposes.


16 posted on 04/07/2009 5:13:46 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Amen!!!


17 posted on 04/07/2009 5:14:44 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: cradle of freedom

Tim Gill is also the founder of QuarkXpress. That’s how he made his millions.


18 posted on 04/07/2009 5:15:50 PM PDT by GSWarrior (We have to act now before people begin to realize we don't.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Old Sarge

I don’t think there’s a god/ God either.

If there’s anything that can reverse my stance, it can’t be anything less than divine intervention. I just cannot bring myself to believe in a supernatural being, an evidence of whom, I’ve never experienced, ever.

And if you or anyone really believed there is a god or God, you wouldn’t be wasting time on your job or family; you’d be treading the planet, helping your god’s “children”, and teaching everyone about this god of yours. Because nothing can be more important, than knowing with certainty that your work is truly for your god. Anything less, is hypocrisy. IMHO.


19 posted on 04/07/2009 5:17:11 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Old Sarge
There is no god.

Ooh boy, are you gonna have egg on your face at the end of days...

Too bad you feel that way. Then that means all those God-given rights of yours aren't really God-given at all... ergo, they can legitimately be taken away from you... And the DOI and Constitution mean nothing at all... That must suck.

20 posted on 04/07/2009 5:22:55 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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