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The Particle Reactor That Creates Mini Black Holes - Jurisdiction?
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Posted on 02/12/2009 9:06:52 AM PST by iThinkBig
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the globe comes down to money center power forces, specifically 10 Central Banks located throughout the world. If you could ask who now runs this globe, you could safely say it is these men.
The real concern is that these are the same men whom have created a business model of excess debt and the business cycle ALWAYS end result is depressions, provide little true value for manufacturing money at will for governments and have in the centuries past, funded each other's host nations adversaries for massive debt/war profiteering. The Central Bank of France for example creates money for the Bank of England in the Napolean Wars while the English Central Bank funded Napolean himself. The consolidation of this horrible model has reached a head. These Central Banks now more or less control this globe and are responsible for the current depression. Unfortunately, the last two global crisis' (1907 and 1929) spawned the last two global wars. What would such men do with the ability to weaponize this technology and create mini-black holes? Interesting parallels to the Manhatten Project.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:06:52 AM PST
by
iThinkBig
To: iThinkBig
The mini black hole speculation is just that, speculation. The energies reached in the search for the theoretical Higgs boson ,for instance, have already been surpassed in places like Fermilab (US). Testing the ‘top end’ so to speak and narrow down the search parameters. No one really knows what happens if they find it. As of right now the weaponization of such particles, which aren’t even known to exist, is science fiction.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:14:30 AM PST
by
allmost
To: iThinkBig
The LHC is a perfect example of something that should be built on the Moon. If you sucked the moon into a mini black hole it would screw up the night sky, but Earth would still be OK. Its not that I'm against science turning this thing on. I jsut want to be a safe distance away.
You have heard on NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) well this is NOYOP (Not On Your Own Planet). Were are all the envirowacko’s when we need them.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:17:32 AM PST
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: iThinkBig
The Chicken Littles still worrying about this?
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:17:36 AM PST
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
To: SunkenCiv
Possible ping for your list.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:19:11 AM PST
by
allmost
To: allmost
We’re looking at weapons the wrong way these days. What is indicated are things like the S (Slammnation) bomb which would consist of flash-dried pork ground 100 times finer than the flash powder used for flintlock rifles and compressed air...
To: iThinkBig
Who should have the final say in issues on a global scale such as this?
On a "global scale such as this?" That's easy. The ones doing the experiment.
Because the only issue 'on a global scale' is the science that will be learned. The 'risk' of a non-evaporating black hole, or some other form of strange matter, is zero - to a lot of decimal places. The fact the evaporation of black holes is a theory is at least as solid as the theory that something bad will come of it.
If you choose to establish some global governance authority - whether it's the top ten banks or you sitting in your den - then that authority would be better off worrying about Wiccan circles chanting in the woods asking for some weird spiritual/magical effects. Those would also require an inversion of known science, and are more likely to occur than globally bad effects from the LHC.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:19:56 AM PST
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Phlyer
To: GonzoGOP
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:21:29 AM PST
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iThinkBig
To: Phlyer
Any concerns about weaponizing such science?
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:22:16 AM PST
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iThinkBig
To: varmintman
I wouldn’t object to a bacon bomb. :)
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:22:54 AM PST
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allmost
To: GonzoGOP
It really can’t be built on the moon due to the cost. It would be better to isolate these things of course, but a lot of this really sounds like sci-fi based fear mongering to me.
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:24:48 AM PST
by
allmost
To: theDentist
Hawking once said we will blow ourselves up. I think this is HIS plan....to prove how stupid WE can be...
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:30:55 AM PST
by
Sacajaweau
(I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car.)
To: iThinkBig
I have to confess that I’m a bit nervous about the Large Hadron Collider. Although I’m not a physicist, even the physicists themselves are not entirely sure what happens at the higher energy levels...if they knew that, then they wouldn’t need to run the experiments. If a non-evaporating black hole ever did get created, I’m thinking that it would be very self-reinforcing, and would quickly propagate so that the entire earth, almost instantaneously, would be compressed into a near-singularity.
To: Sacajaweau
If we “blow ourselves up” it’s going to be the result of nuclear weapons, and still people would survive. However, were it to be resulting from our somehow creating a black hole, what a spectacular way to go! My only question is: would all the air be sucked in before the rest of the world, resulting in a mass asphyxiation first?
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:41:25 AM PST
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
To: Sacajaweau
They should fire-up this baby on Dec.21st,2012!
To: iThinkBig
Oh geez, NTSA. Higher energy level collisions happen in the Sun constantly. It has only lasted several billion years without being chewed up by a black hole or strange matter. This is just a case of scientifically illiterate people confusing science fiction for science and panicking...
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:56:15 AM PST
by
piytar
(Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
To: iThinkBig
Launching a rocket into space could pierce the atmosphere, causing all our air to leak out and destroy the planet...
What is this, 1920s redux?
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posted on
02/12/2009 9:57:03 AM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
To: piytar
Could be. Not my article but was curious of more of the facts. The consensus thus far it is virtually mathmatically impossible.
To: allmost
"It really cant be built on the moon due to the cost."
Oh come on one or to Porkulous* worth and you could build a moon base. And ride up to it on Obamas candy pooping unicorn.
* I'm attempting to institute the Porkulous as the new scientific measure of government waste.
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posted on
02/12/2009 11:35:00 AM PST
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: MrEdd; iThinkBig
Don’t worry, we’ll all drown in global-warming-created flooding long before this becomes a problem.
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posted on
02/12/2009 11:36:33 AM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(This disaster brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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