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I Am An Idiot Freeper and I Believe the Media Lies
October 12 2008 | jveritas

Posted on 10/12/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by jveritas

It is very sad the number of people on this forum who fell for the lies of the liberal media and consider it as the golden truth. They believe their biased polls, they believe all the fabricated doom and gloom scenarios that the media unleash each minute, they now believe the lies that McCain is fighting with Palin over the style of campaigning, they believe that is all over and we cannot win.

Yet those are the same people who make fun for what they like to call “sheeple” and say that they are controlled by the media but in reality they are worse than any “sheeple” because they fall for all the lies and fabrication that the media spew constantly.

They are the one who lecture Republicans to get a spine or balls or whatever macho word they like to use in each comment they post but yet they have already surrendered and declared all is lost and we cannot win.

For the vast majority of us Freepers we are going to fight and we are going to win and will never believe the lies and fabrications of the media.


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1 posted on 10/12/2008 8:07:28 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: GOP_Lady; kesg; LS; perfect_rovian_storm; Chet 99; impeachedrapist; Norman Bates; shield; ...

ping


2 posted on 10/12/2008 8:08:55 AM PDT by Perdogg (Raila Amollo Odinga - community organizer)
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To: jveritas

I never argue with a man who knows himself..


3 posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:09 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: jveritas

Hooah.


4 posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:21 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: jveritas

I’m with you! The media is doing it’s best right now to demoralize us, I’m not falling for it. Now’s the time to fight with everything we’ve got.


5 posted on 10/12/2008 8:09:43 AM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: jveritas

Agree with you 100%. It ain’t over ‘til it’s over. We will fight and the pessimists should get on the train or out of the way.


6 posted on 10/12/2008 8:11:00 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: jveritas

I’m with you on this.

Of course, I don’t watch television and read newspapers, so I cannot allow them to sway me with their negativism.

If you watch and read that stuff (If I read the Boston Fishwrap, then turned on the talking heads this morning) it has little relation to reality, and will certainly demoralize you, which is exactly what they want.

I will not play their game, but many are.


7 posted on 10/12/2008 8:11:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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To: jveritas

When ever I find myself with a defeatist attitude, I go to the cemetery and replace the flags on my father’s and grandfather’s graves.

I suggest the same for others.


8 posted on 10/12/2008 8:12:30 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: jveritas

Some people don’t realize that the PURPOSE of the MSM is exactly to demoralize McCain voters, making “Obama is inevitable” a self-fulfilling prophecy.


9 posted on 10/12/2008 8:12:58 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: jveritas

The problem isn’t that freepers believe the media lies. We know that they are full of crap. The problem is that people who don’t follow political issues very closely, namely the great majority of undecided voters who will decide this election, get all of their news from the liars.


10 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:01 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: jveritas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103612/posts

We’re rolling out the big guns the last 3 weeks.


11 posted on 10/12/2008 8:14:56 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: jveritas

One poll has Obama up 8 over McCain in West Virginia. NO WAY!!!!


12 posted on 10/12/2008 8:15:08 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: alicewonders
I’m with you! The media is doing it’s best right now to demoralize us, I’m not falling for it. Now’s the time to fight with everything we’ve got.

The media is absolutely desperate!

Think about it. If Obama loses they lose.

If this were in a round of "Texas Hold'em", they'd be "all in". They came out of their closet and are supporting him openly.

If he loses, it will point out the fact that the media no longer has any clout, and their egos just could not stand the thought of that.

13 posted on 10/12/2008 8:16:25 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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IF the published polls were worth the paper they were printed on, why oh why would the campaigns spend so much time and money doing their own polls?

Short answer? The published polls ain’t worth a damn.

14 posted on 10/12/2008 8:16:55 AM PDT by allmendream (White Dog Democrat: A Democrat who will not vote for 0bama because he's black.)
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Thank you, sir. The media’s goal is to make it ‘appear’ this is inevitable. The polls are probably in O’s favor at this moment, but not by a lot. Those that moved in his direction did so only due to the economic crisis. With 20+ days left, a lot can happen. The more likely an Obama win, the more focus on what he actually WILL do.


15 posted on 10/12/2008 8:17:03 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: frankiep
The freepers who believe the media lies are not doing us any favor. As I said those are the same people who accuse what they call sheeple that they fall for everything the media tell them but in reality they are the one who believe the media more than the people who do not really pay a lot of attention. More than 70% of the people do not believe the media.
16 posted on 10/12/2008 8:17:38 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: jveritas

Problem is, the medis is engaging in the tactic of ignoring. When they went proactive a la’ Dan Rather, we were able to get them. It’s hard to fight the silent tactic. We will keep on though.


17 posted on 10/12/2008 8:17:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: jveritas

I have grown to really like the term talking heads for TV news. I rarely see a newspaper because I don’t have any birds. The Right radio stations and internet do we well.


18 posted on 10/12/2008 8:18:49 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Disclaimer: Opinions posted by the poster are those of the individual poster and do not necessarily)
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To: jveritas

This happens every election season, j. Hang in there, it’s just a few nervous Nellies (OK - maybe more than a few...).


19 posted on 10/12/2008 8:19:24 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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Please do not lob all of us freepers into that donut because I do not believe the MSM for one second!!!

They have parroted the socialist/communist line and realize if they change horses now, Obama people will scream racism at the MSM.

However I blame the MSM for setting up this country for some rough times in regards to race! They are inciting many people for no good reason.

20 posted on 10/12/2008 8:19:51 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: jveritas

1948 ELECTION RESULTS:

Electoral votes: Truman: 303, Dewey: 189.

Popular votes: Truman 49%, Dewey 45%

It's not over, 'til it's over. The election is still very close. Don't forget that 500 votes in Florida made the difference between President Bush or President Gore in 2000.

21 posted on 10/12/2008 8:20:33 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: jveritas

The media lies, but the American people don’t know that.


22 posted on 10/12/2008 8:20:56 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: jveritas

Another vanity.

You sound like John Lewis. Whiner.


23 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:04 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: jveritas

I live in one of the most Republican areas of Missouri. I went out to get the Sunday paper and saw many Obama signs. I didn’t see any McCain signs.

I don’t believe the election can be predicted until a week or two before election day but if McCain don’t win my part of the state in a normal percentage or higher for the Republican candidate then he loses Missouri. He loses Missouri most likely he loses the election.

The polls isn’t scaring me it is the behavior of my neighbors.


24 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by Swiss
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To: word_warrior_bob

Excellent news.


25 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:27 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: jveritas
There is no doubt in my mind that the media commissions those "registered voter" polls in order to show things in a pro-Democrat slant. At least I can't come with another reason to continually commission polls that are known to be inaccurate.

However, to say that the "likely voter" polls are deliberately biased is to say that capitalism doesn't work. These companies have every reason to make the polls as accurate as they can be; if they are consistently less accurate than their competitors, they lose business. The fact is, the polls are against McCain now because McCain isn't doing very well.

IMHO, this is a direct result of the "win at any costs, even if it means abandoning our principles" strategy that we have been pursuing since Bush 1. We elect candidates that are farther and farther from our core principles, and then when they screw up we fail to defend them. Contrast this with the Democraps who are electing candidates farther and farther to the left, and won't admit they are wrong in ANY circumstance.

Bush is the ultimate example of this. His administration is a complete and utter failure with the exception that they have somehow prevented a follow-up attack since 9/11 (but look for that to end as soon as Obama is in office). And look where it has left us. Now we have an even bigger RINO running for President on a campaign of "I'm not a real Republican", and even many die-hard conservatives don't have it in them to stand up and defend Bush.

The sad thing is, this market collapse is going to be blamed on Bush. If it had happened 6 months from now, we could have ridden it to a complete route of Congressional Democrats. As it is, we are going to get more socialism.

Folks, we are in for at least 4 years (and probably more like 12) of really hard times. We'd best learn the lessons of this election well, and be ready to nominate a REAL conservative in 2012.

26 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:46 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: jveritas

Right on!


27 posted on 10/12/2008 8:22:34 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: SouthTexas

That’s all good, but the American know only to replace the “Ins” (White House party) with the “Outs”. They cannot figure out much else.


28 posted on 10/12/2008 8:22:43 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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The media is the battle field. We have to go to their sites and carry the flag. I may have gone too far the other day when I told some liberal smuck to get his face out of Barney Franks crotch, ;) but we have to show we can beat them on every level. As they said in Team America ...


29 posted on 10/12/2008 8:22:56 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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The media is the battle field. We have to go to their sites and carry the flag. I may have gone too far the other day when I told some liberal smuck to get his face out of Barney Franks crotch, ;) but we have to show we can beat them on every level. As they said in Team America ...


30 posted on 10/12/2008 8:22:58 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: ThomasThomas

Did you say, talk-talk-talking heads!?
31 posted on 10/12/2008 8:23:11 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: FocusNexus
You do not have to go that far back in History. Please remember President Gore and President Kerry as the media polls and their exit polls told everyone.
32 posted on 10/12/2008 8:23:32 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: SolidWood

Amen.


33 posted on 10/12/2008 8:23:54 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: jveritas

Change British Empire to the United States of America and Churchill’s words still ring true to me.

what is our aim?

I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. Let that be realised; no survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge and impulse of the ages, that mankind will move forward towards its goal. But I take up my task with buoyancy and hope. I feel sure that our cause will not be suffered to fail among men. At this time I feel entitled to claim the aid of all, and I say, “come then, let us go forward together with our united strength.”

My McCanin/Palin keep the faith and not falter this fight is too important.


34 posted on 10/12/2008 8:24:09 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Can we avoid"Tobacco Road" on the "Road to Surfdom"?)
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To: Rapunzel

I do believe that if Obama loses - there will be terrible times ahead and the country will be divided like never before. If McCain/Palin does win - they will have a harder time than Bush/Cheney did & will be vilified constantly in the media. Tough times are ahead no matter who wins - we will have to gird ourselves and stay strong on the rough road that lies before us.


35 posted on 10/12/2008 8:24:12 AM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: jveritas

I’m with you. I’m almost to the point of completely logging off of FR until after the election.

I’m tired of the vanities from those who are angry and/or unhappy with McCain because he won’t run his campaign the way they personally believe he should run it.

I’m tired of poll results being posted every ten minutes as though they actually mean something.

I’m tired of having to sort through threads of gloom and doom based on the above two points.

Thank goodness for PJ’s DUmmie FUnnies and the Undead Thread; but for those, I’d log off for good.


36 posted on 10/12/2008 8:24:20 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Go, Sonics! And take the Mariners with you.)
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Outstanding post! Count me in as one of those who will not surrender and who does not believe the media lies. This is the best vanity I have seen on here in a long time and reflects what we have been saying on the threads.

Some of this hand wringing and throwing in the towel has made me wonder if the posters are really who they claim because conservatives I know are fighters and not people to throw in the towel over what the media is saying. Throw in the fact a lot of us are broken glass Republicans that don't give in and you are left with 3rd Party types who would never support McCain or any Republican that love to get on threads to demoralize people, trolls, and a few of those from a couple of campaigns that don't want a McCain win.

Who is supporting Senator McCain? Those of us that put our differences aside and put America First and understand the ramifications of an Obama Presidency on our free speech and wallets.

37 posted on 10/12/2008 8:24:44 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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Point well taken. The Obama crowd didn’t sit back as they were told that Hillary! was the inevitable candidate. They rolled up their sleeves and got to work.


38 posted on 10/12/2008 8:25:55 AM PDT by EDINVA
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I agree with you I’ve read many of your posts. LOL


39 posted on 10/12/2008 8:26:11 AM PDT by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: jveritas

Well said!


40 posted on 10/12/2008 8:26:14 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: jveritas

A lot of the posters you refer to are sleeper trolls who have signed up sometime ago and may even be a situation where hundreds were signed up years ago amd are only used during the election cycle.

Every day I have to post on threads that the polls are over sampling democrats and blacks. I am constantly seeing posters who’s signup date goes back years and they are posting crap. Some of these old names I don’t recall ever seeing before.

Everyone should understand that there are Leftist trolls on this site with signup dates going back years.

To arms, to arms the Marxists are coming!


41 posted on 10/12/2008 8:26:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (Congress just created the right to own slaves, we're the slaves. To arms the Marxist are here!)
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To: jveritas

And then there are FReepers who don’t believe the lies of the media, the Democrats, or the Republicans.

I know we’re scarce these days, but we do exist.


42 posted on 10/12/2008 8:27:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tell us again why you thought the "lesser of two evils" would lead you somewhere other than to hell?)
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To: PhiKapMom
Who is supporting Senator McCain? Those of us that put our differences aside and put America First and understand the ramifications of an Obama Presidency on our free speech and wallets.

Agree 100%. We love America more than anything we differ about with Senator McCain.

43 posted on 10/12/2008 8:27:32 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: jveritas
Let's do something about the media! Need help here:

Protest the Media Thread

Protest The Media Website

The website needs freeper help posting information now!

44 posted on 10/12/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Scutter

“However, to say that the “likely voter” polls are deliberately biased is to say that capitalism doesn’t work.”

It depends on how they define “likely voters”.

It used to be that they considered the record of their votes, i.e., did they actually vote in the past several presidential elections. Now, it seems they ask the voters whether they are likely to vote in this election, and 89% say they are 90-100% sure they will vote, but the turn out is never that large. I saw this in some internals, where the they did it exactly this way. Maybe not all polls do it this way, but some do.


45 posted on 10/12/2008 8:27:54 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: org.whodat

Oh, I only read the heading!!


46 posted on 10/12/2008 8:27:55 AM PDT by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: jveritas

This country can’t and won’t survive even four years of an Obamanation administration. We have to keep Obama from winning at all costs. We have no choice. Half of the country does not want communism, which is exactly what Obama will be installing as a form of government. Half of the country also doesn’t want gun control or late-term abortions. There is no way that our half of the country will survive under Obama and the socialists. America will cease to be a free nation if we don’t act now and prevent this travesty.

We should have never let the leftists take over our mainstream media in the first place. We should never have allowed them to indoctrinate our children in public schools for DECADES now either. When the hell are we, the people, the non-socialist people, going to wake up and do something, instead of just talk about it?


47 posted on 10/12/2008 8:28:24 AM PDT by XenaLee
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To: stockpirate

But nothing is done with the trolls.


48 posted on 10/12/2008 8:28:31 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: jveritas
Someone has to crush the love affair the media has with Obama and get on with the truth.

Acorn= Fannie Mae, Sallie Mae & Freddie Mac= buyout of sub prime loans= Democrats= largest financial disaster since the great depression.


49 posted on 10/12/2008 8:28:31 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: jveritas

It is amazing. Normally Freepers believe nothing the propaganda press says. Yet they suddenly are convinced by polls spit out by the same liars in the media. That’s a glaring cognitive disconnect.

Every election the MSM pulls the same crap. Same scenario. Same goofy polls. The liars did it for President Gore, President Kerry and are trying again with President Nobama.

These people marching in the gloom and doom parades here on FR need to make a pot a coffee, buy a jelly doughnut, take a break and reconnect their brain neurons.


50 posted on 10/12/2008 8:29:28 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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