Posted on 09/01/2008 3:51:41 PM PDT by WesternCulture
Even though my country, Sweden, isn't a NATO-member, I'm beginning to feel somewhat annoyed over the behavior the Russian Air Force displays towards my dear neighbor country Norway.
I think the Nordic countries, as well as the whole of "Democratic" Europe will have to fight Russian Expansionism within a generation.
Russia will lose.
Russia stands no chance against a united Western Europe - and if Russia does not wish to realize this, we will make them highly aware of their inferiority in terms of population size, technological know-how, production capacity and overall management skills.
Compared to governments like those of Iran, Cuba and North Korea, the Russian leaders, at least, seem to have convinced their own people of being able rulers.
The respective governments of Iran, Cuba and North Korea, on the other hand, couldn't care less about what the inhabitants of their own nations actually think about their oppressors.
The victims of these regimes could probably not dethrone their leaders all by themselves - but we could!
The Free World is stronger than ever and this we Westerners ought to realize.
Saddam Hussein resisted the doctrine of "Western" freedom and civilization. Today, he is gone and no longer troubles me while I watch the news on TV.
Saddam was not the last tyrant wishing to see us Westerners dead.
Humanity's quest for freedom just won't go away, but it seems like the evil of tyranny will stick around for a while too!
It's not enough to merely commemmorate the accomplishments of men like Churchill and Reagan. We must be prepared to defend what they handed down to us.
The big fight in the future will be over arctic oil resources, IMO.
Yeah. The insects, the Chinese, the Arabs, and the Africans would inherit the Earth.
That depends. One by one or all at once?
And there are other (not necessarily diplomatic) ways of bringing them down. Cuba, for example, is a joke. And so is North Korea. As for Iran and Russia, if oil goes down, well, guess what their primary export is.
The easiest way to deal with hostile powers is to drill here, drill now, and pay less.
>>Is there any reason NOT to attack Russia, Cuba, North Korea and Iran?<<<
Hmmm
5,000 nuclear warheads and the ability to kill everyone in this country within an hour?
Or their Chinese allies with a military the size of our entire population and a growing technological capability.
“5,000 nuclear warheads and the ability to kill everyone in this country within an hour?”
- I’d say the US and its allies are pretty competent in the nuclear war department too.
The only chance a nation like Russia has of defeating the US and Western Europe is by a conventional war and their chances of triumph in such a conflict are very, very slim.
Nope! none whats so ever. Be my guest!
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007
CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.
"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.
Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.
The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.
Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance [ 2005 Joint War Games]
September 23, 2005
In foreign policy it’s critical to “know thine enemy.” So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy — the United States.
The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.
Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.
Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants. As the Pravda.ru Web site announced, “the reconciliation between China and Russia has been driven in part by mutual unease at U.S. power and a fear of Islamic extremism in Central Asia.”
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm
From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
From WorldThreats.com:
July 29, 2006
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
Too many Americans are afraid and are willing to kick it down the road for our children to deal with it and so, won’t have your back.
Will. Its all about will. People don’t win fights because they are capable of winning them, they win fights because they fight them AND they are capable. Will modern Eurotrash fight? I very much doubt that they will. The Central Europeans will fight, but Germans, French, Belgians? I doubt it.
“Nope! none whats so ever. Be my guest!”
- Skål/Cheers, honoured brother-in-arms and sincere greetings from Sweden, Scandinavia!
Sorry, didn't see your response before I posted mine.
Let us guess, here. You belong to the DU and you would like to quote someone at FR saying, “Yeah, let’s bomb the world.”? I call Troll.
Regarding the two Russia-China joint war games I posted on, I just realized that both were in August (2005 and 2007). Now Putie Poo invades Georgia in August, 2008?
So, you’re the conservative in Sweden. I’d heard rumors there was one.
“Will. Its all about will. People don’t win fights because they are capable of winning them, they win fights because they fight them AND they are capable. Will modern Eurotrash fight? I very much doubt that they will. The Central Europeans will fight, but Germans, French, Belgians? I doubt it.”
- I agree we Westerners often seem to lack will.
A little bit too often, we appear to let the core elements of the civilization that has nurtured us down.
But just like Hitler and his associates found out, the evildoers of today will one day realize there is no stronger force on Earth than man’s desire for freedom.
Whoever you are, never hesitate to defend what you are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KHVeFs9Mto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2PXb7xKhcI
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