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Titan Has More Oil Than Earth
space.com ^ | Today | Space.com Staff

Posted on 02/13/2008 4:02:35 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

Saturn's smoggy moon Titan has hundreds of times more natural gas and other liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, scientists said today.

The hydrocarbons rain from the sky on the miserable moon, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes. This much was known. But now the stuff has been quantified using observations from NASA's Cassini spacecraft.

"Titan is just covered in carbon-bearing material — it's a giant factory of organic chemicals," said Ralph Lorenz, a Cassini radar team member from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory. "This vast carbon inventory is an important window into the geology and climate history of Titan."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: abiogenic; abiotic; astronomy; postit3moretimes; saturn; space; thomasgold; titan
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Not very useful now, but a giant gas station in the backwoods of the solar system might come in handy someday.
1 posted on 02/13/2008 4:02:38 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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2 posted on 02/13/2008 4:04:35 PM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

But I thought oil was from dinosaurs and dead plants over millions of years!

Fossil fuels after all!

/sarc


3 posted on 02/13/2008 4:04:56 PM PST by Crazieman (The Democrat Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Now, all we need is a wormhole between here and there to siphon off some of that black gold for our own use...

(Can I patent the idea of using a wormhole as a giant siphon?)


4 posted on 02/13/2008 4:04:56 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Can’t use it. The Saturn Caribou use Titan as their mating grounds.


5 posted on 02/13/2008 4:05:15 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Evil has a name and it is Hillary!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I don’t understand how this makes sense if the theory of abiotic oil on the earth is lunacy. (As it were.)


6 posted on 02/13/2008 4:05:32 PM PST by Rippin
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Interesting. Now if we can only build massive bladders that can suck that place dry and have it remotely controlled seeing as we don’t really have the technology to protect ourselves from Saturn’s radiation.


7 posted on 02/13/2008 4:06:23 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

This article was already posted as a thread and drew all the dinosaur comments anybody ever heard of.


8 posted on 02/13/2008 4:06:41 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Crazieman

Hey, everyone knows that the Female T-Rex’s are from Hyperion and the males are from Titan...


9 posted on 02/13/2008 4:07:20 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Crazieman

Yep. That’s what they say.


10 posted on 02/13/2008 4:07:27 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

No blood for Titan Oil!

Titan lied, people died!


11 posted on 02/13/2008 4:07:47 PM PST by hawkeye101 (When in my darkest hour, your thoughts do me no good, but PRAYERS are greatly appreciated!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 02/13/2008 4:08:20 PM PST by avacado
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To: Rippin

My thoughts exactly.


13 posted on 02/13/2008 4:09:30 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Rippin

My thoughts exactly.


14 posted on 02/13/2008 4:09:50 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Now the evil Americans wnt to rape and ravage the entire SOlar System. [/sarcasm]


15 posted on 02/13/2008 4:10:19 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Now the evil Americans want to rape and ravage the entire SOlar System. [/sarcasm]


16 posted on 02/13/2008 4:10:38 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Now the evil Americans want to rape and ravage the entire Solar System. [/sarcasm]


17 posted on 02/13/2008 4:10:43 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Rippin
I don’t understand how this makes sense if the theory of abiotic oil on the earth is lunacy.

It will be titanacy now.
18 posted on 02/13/2008 4:11:11 PM PST by alecqss
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Titan obviously belongs to the U.S.


19 posted on 02/13/2008 4:11:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Now Congress will pass a bill to make the moons of Saturn Federally protected, so that its precious resources are safe from Big Oil.


20 posted on 02/13/2008 4:12:39 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Looks sorta boring aside from the potential for trillion-dollar oil wealth.

21 posted on 02/13/2008 4:13:41 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: Jeff Head

40 years ago some New-Ager was screaming in my face that we couldn’t be allowed to go into space because we would ruin the entire universe just as we have ruined earth. Outer space must remain pristine for kayakers or somebody equally l33t.


22 posted on 02/13/2008 4:15:06 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Extracting the oil/gas from Titan is nearly impossible. It would take several decades for a lunar module to arrive there, several more decades to extract the oil/gas, and to bring it back to Earth is another few decades. You're looking at a 100 years, minimum, *EEE will be pushing up daises to the delight of the Mods ROFL* before mankind can assume any resources from it. I'm sure there's a Titan Sierra Club group on the planet as well.
23 posted on 02/13/2008 4:15:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: Jeff Head

40 years ago some New-Ager was screaming in my face that we couldn’t be allowed to go into space because we would ruin the entire universe just as we have ruined earth. Outer space must remain pristine for kayakers or somebody equally l33t.


24 posted on 02/13/2008 4:15:42 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Jeff Head

Proxy #2

40 years ago some New-Ager was screaming in my face that we couldn’t be allowed to go into space because we would ruin the entire universe just as we have ruined earth. Outer space must remain pristine for kayakers or somebody equally l33t.


25 posted on 02/13/2008 4:16:43 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

26 posted on 02/13/2008 4:17:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Constitution does not give me the authority to run your life - Ron Paul)
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To: Jeff Head

Proxy #3 This BBS is kr#pping out again.

40 years ago some New-Ager was screaming in my face that we couldn’t be allowed to go into space because we would ruin the entire universe just as we have ruined earth. Outer space must remain pristine for kayakers or somebody equally l33t.


27 posted on 02/13/2008 4:18:21 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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Proxy #4

40 years ago some New-Ager was screaming in my face that we couldn’t be allowed to go into space because we would ruin the entire universe just as we have ruined earth. Outer space must remain pristine for kayakers or somebody equally l33t.


28 posted on 02/13/2008 4:20:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Hard to say how usefull it will be. By the time we get anywhere near being able to send tankers there to get it I doubt we’ll be using it as fuel much. We will likely find other uses for it by then though.


29 posted on 02/13/2008 4:26:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick opposed to McCain.))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Hard to say how usefull it will be. By the time we get anywhere near being able to send tankers there to get it I doubt we’ll be using it as fuel much. We will likely find other uses for it by then though.


30 posted on 02/13/2008 4:27:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick opposed to McCain.))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Fossil fuel theory up in smoke?


31 posted on 02/13/2008 4:32:59 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Fossil fuel theory up in smoke?


32 posted on 02/13/2008 4:33:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Fossil fuel theory up in smoke?


33 posted on 02/13/2008 4:34:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: NonValueAdded

Sorry for the triple ... the dreaded 502 proxy error made me do it.


34 posted on 02/13/2008 4:36:23 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Can’t use it. The Saturn Caribou use Titan as their mating grounds.

Rats!

35 posted on 02/13/2008 4:39:14 PM PST by John123 (Wahhabism is the best choice for anyone too stupid for scientology...)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Do you guys remember if Velikovsky predicted lots of Hydrocarbons on other planets as well as a non-life abiogenic process here on earth? It’s been a while since I read “Worlds in Collision” and something about this is rattling around upstairs.


36 posted on 02/13/2008 4:40:06 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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Sorry. Don’t remember.


37 posted on 02/13/2008 4:49:41 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Ping.


38 posted on 02/13/2008 8:07:17 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro; Names Ash Housewares

It’s embarrassing to have to tell ya’ll this, but it ain’t that kind of gas.

Sorry.

I have to say that a lot...


39 posted on 02/13/2008 8:36:23 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Titan Magroyne
Oh, wait, there's this:

...liquid hydrocarbons in the form of methane and ethane are present on the moon's surface...

...methane is a strong greenhouse gas on Titan as well as on Earth, but there is much more of it on Titan

Scientists believe that methane might be supplied to the atmosphere by venting from the interior in cryovolcanic eruptions.

Like. Wow.

[closes window, draws shades]
40 posted on 02/13/2008 8:48:35 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

In hindsight, “gas station” was not the best way to express things.

Future deep space natural energy resource might have been better.


41 posted on 02/13/2008 9:04:12 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Rippin

Ethane and methane are not oil. The title is incorrect. They cannot be used to make gasoline or diesel.


42 posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:54 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Crazieman
I can't help but wonder why it is that the petroleum industry continues to push all the old theories about "fossil fuels" and such, when it becomes more obvious with each passing year that Thomas Gold was right: these fuels are made naturally deep under the surface, and the earth will never completely run out of oil.

Then I look at the incredible amounts of money being made by Dubai and companies like Exxon-Mobil by ripping us off, and it suddenly makes sense.

43 posted on 02/14/2008 5:49:26 AM PST by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: thackney

Thanks, that makes more sense.


44 posted on 02/14/2008 6:13:04 AM PST by Rippin
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To: jpl
I can't help but wonder why it is that the petroleum industry continues to push all the old theories about "fossil fuels"

Perhaps because the only commercially producing petroleum ever discovered and is flowing today is all sourced from sedimentary rock and contains biomarkers.

There have a few attempts to drill and locate abiotic oil. Those wells have only been successful in producing cash from gullible investors and a couple times gullible governments. None have resulted in oil production.

45 posted on 02/14/2008 7:08:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Kevmo; Fred Nerks

Yes. Seems like there was a lively discussion about this in a topic last year, but anyway...

Thanks FN for the ping to the similar, earlier topic:

Titan’s surface organics surpass oil reserves on Earth
SpaceRef.com | February 13, 2008 | ESA
Posted on 02/13/2008 2:10:35 PM EST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1969802/posts


46 posted on 02/14/2008 10:17:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: Kevmo; ForGod'sSake

http://www.varchive.org/lec/aaas/challenge.htm

My Challenge
to Conventional Views in Science


47 posted on 02/14/2008 2:44:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

From your link, it appears that the hydrocarbon claim was for Venus rather than an ice-cold blob like Titan.

From the link:

I offered a series of claims that naturally followed from the reconstruction. In science they are usually called predictions, but I prefer to term them advance claims. Thus I claimed that Venus, due to its recent birth and dramatic though short history, must be very hot under the clouds, nearly incandescent, and gives off heat—it has not reached thermal balance; that it must have every massive atmosphere; that the atmosphere consisted largely of hydrocarbons but that if oxygen is present petroleum fires must be burning—thus explaining also the present massive carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere; that sulfur and iron (ferruginous pigment) must be present too; and that if the same catalytic process that took place on the Earth when it was enveloped by clouds of Venus’ origin takes place in Venus’ own clouds, they must consist mainly of organic material infused with sulfur and iron molecules. Further, I considered that Venus was disturbed in its rotation.


48 posted on 02/14/2008 3:08:29 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: Kevmo

http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/happenings/20061010/

Planets, Comets, Asteroids, hydrocarbons everywhere...

From its lofty perch in space, Spitzer was in the perfect position to scrutinize the cometary material ejected from comet Tempel 1. The sensitive telescope’s spectrometer instrument detected dust particles finer than human hair, and discovered the presence of silicates (crushed rock or sand), carbonates (chalk), smectite (clay), metal sulfides (like fool’s gold), amorphous carbon (soot), and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (carbon-rich molecules found on barbecue grills and in automobile exhaust on Earth).


49 posted on 02/14/2008 3:26:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Kevmo

http://www.universetoday.com/2007/07/06/spongey-hyperion-coated-with-hydrocarbons/

One of the most bizarre objects in the Solar System has got to be Saturn’s moon Hyperion. From the pictures taken by Cassini, this tiny moon looks like a sponge you might buy at the Body Shop. In a new research paper appearing in the July 5 issue of the journal Nature, scientists have mapped the surface of Hyperion, and found hydrocarbons...


50 posted on 02/14/2008 3:32:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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