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McNabb stands by what he says
Phillynews.com ^ | 9/20/07 | DANA PENNETT O'NEIL

Posted on 09/20/2007 5:49:52 AM PDT by randita

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To: Rummyfan

Do you remember the regular season game against the Jets when the Dolphins got the ball down in goal to go range. Marino and the rest of the offense run up like they were going to spike the ball to stop the clock and the Jets D was just walking around. Marino fakes the spike and then throws a TD pass. Right at the end of the game!


41 posted on 09/20/2007 7:00:39 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Archon of the East

Well, Donovan wanted to be the first black QB to win a Super Bowl......Ummmmm, thats already been done about 20 years ago.

When you don’t have a receiver that can actually catch a ball and your legs are not what they used to be, you are screwed.

I think Donovan needs to shut his cheesesteak-hole.


42 posted on 09/20/2007 7:01:55 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: bereanway

Don’t forget Quincy Carter. he was the “next” big thing.


43 posted on 09/20/2007 7:04:00 AM PDT by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Jigajog
i hear ya...but one couldn’t get away from it because of MSM back then...seems like nothing has changed.
I didn’t know Grant Fuhr was black until after he retired.
44 posted on 09/20/2007 7:04:05 AM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: 7thson

Yes I do remember that one!


45 posted on 09/20/2007 7:04:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: normy
TO was right. Look whose team is 2-0 this season.

McNabb can't blame Owens this time, so he's "blamin' the man."

46 posted on 09/20/2007 7:09:18 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: randita
If there is a rap on black quarterbacks, it is that they are too eager to run "to make something happen" instead of staying in the pocket. In other words, a college-style QB.

No running college-style quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl. They are exciting to watch. They put fans in the seats because they can overcome and outrun a mediocre or bad team's shortcomings, they sell a lot of jerseys, but they do not put championship banners and flags in their home stadiums.

John Elway and Roger Staubach were through running to make something happen and became prototypical NFL-style QB's when they finally won their SB rings. They learned what Fran Tarkenton never did learn.

When McNabb got injured, it was either time for him to become an NFL-style quarterback that throws first and only runs for his life or show he that he is still just a college-style QB that can't cut it in the NFL.

Monday night he flunked his test. The black QB on the other side "passed" his test.

Judge McNabb differently? Sure. Look at his ring finger and compare it to Terry Bradshaw's, Joe Montana's, Tom Brady's, and Doug Williams' and you be the judge.

Donovan, here's a dose of reality for you, it's not the color of the finger, it's the jewelry that's on it.

Winning NFL quarterbacks are all one color - golden.

47 posted on 09/20/2007 7:10:05 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: 7thson
One of my best memories of Marino comes from when he was still playing his college ball for Pitt. They were playing against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl I think (when UGA still had Herschel Walker), late in the 4th quarter facing a fourth and short, and trailing in the game. Pitt probably wouldn't get the ball back if it went over on downs. Instead of simply going for the first down, Marino rifles one deep down the middle for the TD and Pitt wins!

Another mystery with Marino - he slipped so far down the draft.

48 posted on 09/20/2007 7:11:02 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: A Texan
"You had to bring that Oilers/Bills game didn’t you. I still wake up in cold sweats because of that game."

I remember watching that game and thinking that history was being made right in front of me. That was something special, even though I was indifferent about the Oilers but I hated the Bills.

49 posted on 09/20/2007 7:14:28 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: trisham
I never looked at Emmitt Smith as a blck running back. He was always just a running back who knew how to win(a lot of) games. He was one of the best, if not, THE BEST running back(based on total rushing yards) to play the game. And he was a Dallas Cowboy to boot.

GO COWBOYS!!!!!
50 posted on 09/20/2007 7:15:43 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: NCC-1701

Get real, Emmit was a great running back but he had nothing on the Diesel and Jim Brown.


51 posted on 09/20/2007 7:32:01 AM PDT by Jigajog
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To: N. Theknow
What Doug Williams won:


What Donovan McNabb has won:

52 posted on 09/20/2007 7:36:51 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Jigajog

But Emmitt was 3-0 in Super Bowls.


53 posted on 09/20/2007 7:38:24 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: randita
I blame the entire fiasco on the excessively fervent Eagles fans and the voracious Philadelphia media (with sports talk station WIP at the head of that list!). These two factors have created an unnecessarily high expectation for the success of the Eagles, and poor Donovan McNabb has been saddled with these expectations and not handling it well.

McNabb deserves much better, and I think it would be in his interest to leave for another team next season to revive his career.

54 posted on 09/20/2007 7:42:10 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: NCC-1701
Truth hurts, Don.
Strangely I was rooting for the Skins Monday night.
55 posted on 09/20/2007 7:50:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: NCC-1701

Yes he was, but running back to running back he did not match the power of the Diesel and Jim Brown. These guys would bulldoze LBs and enjoy doing it. Emmit was a great running back on a great team. He was never considered a power back though.


56 posted on 09/20/2007 7:59:53 AM PDT by Jigajog
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To: randita; Allegra; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; StephenTX; wallcrawlr; blackie; null and void; ...
Re: I only speak on facts. It's only something I've been part of and other quarterbacks before me and after me have been part of.

By George, old pard... You are right. Us white quarterback really, really are treated differently!

You go, Donovan! Tell... It... Like... It... Is!!!

Now, be a good boy... and go get me another double Stoli on the rocks!

Now, if you doubt Dandy Don... just go Google 'Don Meredith' and see how he was treated differently!

BTW-- Way back in the "Luv Ya Blue!" Houston Oilers 1979 days, I happened to be asked by a friend if I'd like to work the Oiler-Steelers Monday Night Game that year. JR was a spot wrangler/gofer/whatever for the ABC broadcast team. I'd get to work the game doing something and get $35 pay for the night.

The pay wasn't important, but the anticipated fun of the whole thing was! Finally the night came and I found myself following JR around until one of his bosses barked a command in JR's ear. I was to be given a very important position: I was to be Cosell's Stoli man.

Just before the start of the game, Cosell gave me a $20 bill and said, "Double Stoli rocks." I went to the nearby bar set up behind the press box and got a double Stoli on the rocks in a styrofoam cup. I went back to the booth and handed it to Howard and when I held out the change, $16, he waved it off.

A few minutes before the end of the 1st quarter, Cosell pulled out another $20 and waved me over. He indicated with the near empty cup he wanted another. Off I went and as before, he took the new Stoli and again tipped me another $16. This happened again at the half and just before the 3rd quarter. When the game was finished, the Oilers won as I recall, 20-17 in a sea of Columbia Blue pom-poms singing "Houston Oilers Number One!" and Cosell got off his stool, not showing one sign of 8 shots of Stoli in about 3 hours, and walked over to his briefcase. He opened it, took out a tape recorder and a stop watch. Right then and there, without a stop, did a three minute commentary for his daily radio sports spot. It was classic Cosell and without a slip up at all.

He looked over at me, I was in amazement at his performance. He pulled out another $20 billl and pressed it into my hand. "Thank you, Mr. Lee. It was a pleasure working with you!" he said in that booming half-serious half-comical tone of his. He patted me on the back and walked out of the booth.

As far as I knew, he's never asked nor even knew my name!

For the night, Howard Cosell had tipped me $84 and ABC paid me $35. But my greatest reward was watching Howard Cosell in his natural environment!

Now, I'd always joined in on the joking about Howward Coosell and his arrogant blow-hard manner, but after that night, I was impressed in his professional work manner and skills at improvisational speaking. He could also hold his liquor with the best of them! It was never the same watching him afterward. The joking from then on was mainly offset by admiration.

And Howard Cosell held his own sitting right there between the classic pro Frank Gifford and the classic comic wit Dandy Don Meredith. The interaction between the three was something to see, but that is for another time, another thread...

57 posted on 09/20/2007 8:15:39 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Meredith, Gifford and Cosell were the best in the business and are still unmatched today!


58 posted on 09/20/2007 9:24:27 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: libs_kma

It was a sad day in Houston that year. That was our Super Bowl year, well, at least it should have been.

%$*&!


59 posted on 09/20/2007 10:43:46 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: randita
Hey McNabb, this is what puts you into "great quarterback" company...

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you ass....bwahahahahaha...

I hate the Eagles, I hate the Redskins.....but I really hate cry babies...bwahahahaha..

Shut up and keep choking in the playoffs, overthrowing wide open receivers and generally screwing up Philly. I don't want them to trade you... I want you to stay in Philly for the next 15 years if possible.

60 posted on 09/20/2007 10:46:34 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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