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Microsoft's Patent on a Pile of Baloney
Enterprise Networking ^ | 21 May 2007 | Carla Schroder

Posted on 05/23/2007 6:47:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 05/23/2007 6:47:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ..

2 posted on 05/23/2007 6:47:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Bill Gates is a liberal rich crook.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 6:48:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: ShadowAce
"Can they get any more undignified or childish? This is the biggest software company on the planet, and the most obscenely rich company of all time. Yet they pout, throw public tantrums, and emit the most amazing line of pure baloney on a regular basis. Nothing is ever good enough and everyone picks on them, all those mean governments and unhappy users and mouthy Linux hippies and everyone."

Something here reminds me of the mob inciting rhetoric of villains in an Ayn Rand novel. Maybe it's the unsupported smearing and character assassinations of the most successful and dominate player in the market. It's like they can just reference a fashionable charge as if "everyone knows it" to feed the resentment of an envious Linux mob and move on to the next load of crap.

4 posted on 05/23/2007 7:05:14 AM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: ShadowAce

Linux infringes on a lot more patents than just Microsoft’s, and why wouldn’t it since it’s a foreign clone of an original US product to begin with. You don’t have to take Microsoft’s word for it either, just ask Richard Stallman “the father of free software” who openly admits it. One of the lawyers that works for him at the FSF did a patent study that showed about 300 possible infringements in the Linux kernel alone.


5 posted on 05/23/2007 7:09:04 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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One of the lawyers that works for him at the FSF did a patent study..

Actually, PubPat did the work for OSRM.

6 posted on 05/23/2007 7:48:11 AM PDT by TechJunkYard (cough)
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According to published reports the head of “pubpat” is also a senior counsel at FSF. He found ~300 possible violations in just the kernel, but only about 30 were thought to be owned by Microsoft.


7 posted on 05/23/2007 7:57:41 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: ShadowAce
But there is more to life than being mad all the time,

There is?

8 posted on 05/23/2007 8:05:23 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: ShadowAce

Nice article - this has been exactly my take all along. I also doubt this is the “End of the Linux World as We Know it”.

Also enjoyed the back-handed slap to what passes for journalism these days!


9 posted on 05/23/2007 8:15:05 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ShadowAce

The article lays it out pretty well.

But Microsoft isn’t the most obscenely rich company of all time. There are a lot of companies with a higher market cap, Exxon for example.

But go through history and adjust for inflation and other companies were insanely huge and powerful, like the Dutch East India Company. And I don’t think anything compares to the wealth of the Medici family’s bank in its heyday.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 8:59:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
The article lays it out pretty well.

Ridiculous, it once again shows the Linux crowd trying to blame Microsoft for their own problems. Patents do exist, and the foreign-born Linux is not immune from US law if it is distributed here no matter who they want to point their crooked fingers at.

11 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:20 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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Ridiculous, it once again shows the Linux crowd trying to blame Microsoft for their own problems.

The article isn't about any actual Linux patent problems. It is about Microsoft pulling an SCO, making vague claims in order to spread fear along with the absolute refusal to back up those claims. Any honest claim of patent infringement would have included the list of patents. Anything else is FUD. Put up or shut up.

The problem with bluffing is that you eventually have to put your cards on the table to actually win. I hope Microsoft gets roasted by estoppel if they ever sue anyone over these alleged patents (remember, we don't even know that they exist). The longer they wait, the worse it will get.

But I don't think they will ever sue. That's not their plan, which is to use fear to drive people, if not to Microsoft, then to its partners. Patents have to be shown and defended, but vague threats do not, unless a Linux distributor sues Microsoft like Red Hat sued SCO. That would be fun, and there wouldn't be an IBM case around to unfairly stall the suit.

12 posted on 05/23/2007 10:13:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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But the responsibility does lie with Microsoft. Proving patent infringement is up to the patent holder. If they don’t produce specific details, they should be charged with fraud.


13 posted on 05/23/2007 10:29:27 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The article isn't about any actual Linux patent problems

ROFL! Right on que you post more of the same bull. "Linux doesn't infringe on any patents, couldn't possibly. It's all the fault of that eeeevil Microsoft." LOL leep fooling yourself, because any halfway honest rational mind knows Linux could infringe on the patents of many others than just Microsoft. Studies done by those directly involved with the Free Software Foundation have already openly admitted it, and that Microsoft only owned ~10% of what was found. % of what

14 posted on 05/23/2007 10:36:08 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Jack of all Trades

If they want to actually sue, yes. but for the time being they’re simply drawing attention to admissions made by Richard Stallman and others from the FSF itself. If you want to know more about Stallman start with his website www.stallman.org.


15 posted on 05/23/2007 10:42:48 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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I’m sure we’d all appreciate you posting a patent number for a Microsoft patent that is infringed by a current Linux distribution. In addition, it would help if you could show how said patent is infringed. Without that, nothing you say on the subject has any relevance, troll.


16 posted on 05/23/2007 10:50:50 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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"Linux doesn't infringe on any patents, couldn't possibly.

You said that, I didn't. The fault of "eeeevil Microsoft" is using patents as an anticompetitive FUD tactic instead of doing what they're supposed to do, which is notify the party of all specific alleged patent infringements. Not only do I not like it, but the court system doesn't like it either.

17 posted on 05/23/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
If they want to actually sue, yes.

At that time they'll likely be barred from collecting any damages between the time they claimed infringement and actually provided the evidence. They may even have their case thrown out or restricted due to the dishonest delay. It has happened, many times.

18 posted on 05/23/2007 10:58:11 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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“Not possible, eeevil Microsoft again” LOL. The actual truth is Microsoft has patents on their file systems, which Linux has purposefully and specifically copied, and then distributed with almost every copy of Linux. These patents were recently validated by federal examinators in the US patent office as well. Keep believing your foreign Linux will get a free ride in the US if you want, but all free rides come to an end.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 11:42:19 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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..for the time being they’re simply drawing attention to admissions made by Richard Stallman..

Silly me, I thought they were making vague assertions of harm in the hopes of generating a new revenue stream. More commonly known as extorting protection money.

It might have been more credible if they hadn't already tried run this play by proxy via SCO.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 11:57:28 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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