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HP Sees Huge Linux Desktop Deals
CRN ^ | March 6th | Edward F. Moltzen

Posted on 03/08/2007 6:15:03 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Hewlett-Packard is closing custom deals for thousands of desktop PCs running Linux, which has the company assessing the possibility of offering factory-loaded Linux systems, an HP executive said.

"We are involved in a number of massive deals for Linux desktops, and those are the kinds of things that are indicators of critical mass. So we are really looking at it very hard," said Doug Small, worldwide director of open source and Linux marketing at HP. "We are in a massive deal right now for ... multi-thousands of units of a desktop opportunity for Linux. That's an indicator." He declined to give details about the Linux deals.

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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
You've never heard of Marc Ewing, have you?

Not in almost 10 years now, no. Who has? I just did a Google search on him, the first link that comes up is from the 90's on Salon.com about how he was taking on Microsoft. Red Hat is now run by the Szulik family based on the latest reports. The Chinese rename it "Red Flag", all legal, as you probably already know.

41 posted on 03/08/2007 9:00:48 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The most upkeep that I do personally is my browser cache. Talk about a backbreaker.

Linux might make sense if a browser cache is all you have to support. That could potentially explain their 3% market share.

42 posted on 03/08/2007 9:06:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

To my knowledge, he's still a part of the higher echelon/board members.


43 posted on 03/08/2007 9:15:54 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^^Linux might make sense if a browser cache is all you have to support.^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nah, that's the only thing that needs upkeep. Everything else just works.

It's beautiful when things work as advertised.

And the price was just right.


44 posted on 03/08/2007 9:17:23 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Name some of the projects you like that the Gates foundation is funding. To me the man was a nasty dogged business competitor. A buccaneer who took (and takes) no prisoners.

But when it comes to charity he blows his billions on the usual useless shit. Nothing innovative


45 posted on 03/08/2007 10:56:52 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: Redcloak
Visio was much better back before they got bought out by MSFT.

Microsoft did cram in a lot of needless, confusing junk as is their way. But the database and web site diagramming are pretty cool. I don't mean make one yourself, but point it to a database or web site and it'll diagram the whole thing for you automatically. It helps when you're given a database or web site and are told "Re-do this."

46 posted on 03/09/2007 7:24:28 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
That's the only way to make Linux mainstream - by offering PC's for sale that have Linux pre-installed and ready to run right out of the box.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

47 posted on 03/09/2007 7:30:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Golden Eagle
He may not be a *B*illionaire, but I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank.

He was a billionaire before the dotcom bust. He's in the several hundred million range right now. But GE's right in a way -- it wasn't a garage, but a spare bedroom.

48 posted on 03/09/2007 7:31:27 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
If either Dell or HP begin to market a pre-loaded Linux desktop (which to date they haven't done, at least in the USA in any serious manner), will your Linux bashing come to an end?

Virtually all your arguments are based on the premise that because no major player supports/preinstalls Linux it isn't a serious OS. Will your tune change if HP or Dell makes Linux preinstalled and widely available?

49 posted on 03/09/2007 7:36:54 AM PST by twntaipan (If you haven't done so, you NEED to read Mark Steyn's book "America Alone")
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To: twntaipan

No, I don't see the point in supporting a foreign clone of Unix when superior American originals like Sun Solaris and Apple OSX are readily available. Especially not a clone that's endorsed by every communist nation on earth, if not marketed by them including the infamous Chinese "Red Flag" version. I realize most people don't care about that, all they care about is did they get their copy for free or nearly free, but some of us have a higher grade of concerns.


50 posted on 03/09/2007 8:17:42 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
No, I don't see the point in supporting a foreign clone of Unix when superior American originals like Sun Solaris and Apple OSX are readily available.

First, OS X is also a "clone" of the original AT&T UNIX.

Second, what is "UNIX"? Is it the codebase? No, it isn't. It has ZERO relation to whether the product is derived from AT&T UNIX. UNIX is defined as meeting the UNIX specifications of the OpenGroup, owner of the UNIX trademark. The only current products that are certified to be UNIX in its modern state (UNIX 03) are Solaris 10, AIX 5L and HP-UX 11. You can probably add OS X in a couple of months.

Otherwise, they're just other products, like Minix, BSD, Linux, and SCO's UnixWare (yep, not certified UNIX 03, but good for the 12 year-old standard) and OpenServer (never certified), that tend to act a lot like modern UNIX so are easy for someone with a UNIX background to use.

And as far as "superior" goes, that's just your opinion. And there is NO WAY you can honestly make a blanket claim of superiority without considering all of the factors for a specific installation of the system. Personally, I'd tend to go with OS X, but the circumstances of individual installation might lead me away from it.

And what's with this "foreign" thing again, when most of the code was written by Americans, and even under American corporations?

Especially not a clone that's endorsed by every communist nation on earth,

If the dictator car of choice is Mercedes, does that mean we should stop buying them out of principle? The Al Qaeda computers found so far were running Windows, so should we boycott the Windows "The Choice of Terrorists" operating system?

51 posted on 03/09/2007 9:51:18 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: goldstategop

Unfortunately.


52 posted on 03/09/2007 10:01:45 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: antiRepublicrat; Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^^^He was a billionaire before the dotcom bust. He's in the several hundred million range right now. But GE's right in a way -- it wasn't a garage, but a spare bedroom.^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh, I see.

Well then GE.......... I appologize. You were correct, no linux billionaire ever started out in his garage. *laughs*


53 posted on 03/09/2007 10:03:50 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle

When Sun officially licences solaris under GPL v3, what're you going to say?

Sun has already put Java under the GPL.

Are you aware that both Jobs and Gates are leftists? Or is that still a secret to you?


54 posted on 03/09/2007 10:06:36 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

^^^^^^^^^^The Al Qaeda computers found so far were running Windows, so should we boycott the Windows "The Choice of Terrorists" operating system?^^^^^^^^^^^

I'll be using that if you don't mind.

:-)


55 posted on 03/09/2007 10:07:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The only current products that are certified to be UNIX in its modern state (UNIX 03) are Solaris 10, AIX 5L and HP-UX 11. You can probably add OS X in a couple of months.

Gee, no Linux, duh.

The Al Qaeda computers found so far were running Windows, so should we boycott the Windows "The Choice of Terrorists" operating system?

No proof of your claim course. Nor have I ever seen them promoting Windows like communists do Linux.

56 posted on 03/09/2007 10:51:11 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
When Sun officially licences solaris under GPL v3, what're you going to say?

That Linux is still a foreign clone of US Unix products.

57 posted on 03/09/2007 10:52:12 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

So in other words that'll be the end of your rants against the stallmanites or the GPL or whatever leftists you feel like ranting against?

Are you aware that both Jobs and Gates are leftists?

I've yet to see you rant against them. I'm just wondering where your consistency is.


58 posted on 03/09/2007 11:33:44 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Gee, no Linux, duh.

Nope, and I doubt there ever will be. Doesn't matter to me.

No proof of your claim course.

here "US at least seizes Zarqawi's laptop ... On the hard drive was everything from information about Zarqawi's medical condition to pictures of himself, kept in a file labeled 'My Pictures.'" (that's Windows)

here "Relatively weak encryption appears to have been used to protect files recovered from two computers believed to have belonged to al-Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan. ... The files were reportedly stored using Microsoft's Windows 2000 operating system and protected from unauthorised access using the Encrypting File System (EFS)"

here " two of al-Qaeda's most valuable computers—a 40-gigabyte IBM desktop and a Compaq laptop ... The desktop computer, it turned out, had been used mostly by Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy. It contained nearly a thousand text documents, dating back to 1997. Most were in Arabic, " Compaq and IBM came with Windows. Linux word processor capable of Arabic in 1997? LOL.

59 posted on 03/09/2007 11:46:55 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle; Halfmanhalfamazing
That Linux is still a foreign clone of US Unix products.

I thought it was US technology being given away to foreigners.

60 posted on 03/09/2007 11:48:00 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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