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Colorful Body Artwork is Bonding Some Families (Tattoos Bring Mom & Daughter Together)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | January 8, 2007 | Nikki KAtz

Posted on 01/08/2007 2:12:54 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

When Lori Nichols of Oregon, WI was in her late 20s, she once asked her mom to baby-sit without revealing where she was going.

"When I got back hours later, I showed her why she was watching the kids," Nichols said, turning to show off the red rose she had tattooed on her shoulder.

"I thought she'd be mad, but she was jealous," Nichols said. "(I didn't know) my mom always wanted a yellow rose . . . She wanted one, but she was stuck with (my dad) for so long."

Ever since her mom died in September 2004, Nichols has wanted to get a yellow rose to accompany the red rose on her shoulder. Or maybe on her right arm, opposite the ram's head on her left arm that she got in honor of her younger brother Chad, who died one day after their mom, and sported a ram tattoo.

Nichols' daughter, Amber Dawson of Stoughton, is on the same page. Not long after her 18th birthday in August, Dawson decided to get a picture of two angels on her left shoulder to represent her maternal grandmother and uncle.

"(Their deaths) affected our family so much, and I just wanted to honor them," Dawson said. "One of my close friends is not very supportive of it. She says there are other ways I could've remembered them, but this is the way I choose to do it . . . I want them to look over my shoulder and protect me."

Madison's 10 tattoo parlors draw young adults and adults alike to invest in body art. Just look around, and you'll see it everywhere, on everyone, from elderly women to teens who don't look quite of-age. Dawson said she's already planning her next tattoo, possibly a Virgo symbol on her foot.

"I guess when they say they're addicting, they're not lying," she said, glancing at her mom.

"I can't say nothing," Lori said, laughing. "I have more than two.

"It's a person's choice, and I truly believe that," she added. "She's 18, and it's her choice to make."

A bonding experience

Seated in the lobby of Ultimate Arts Tattoo, Nichols seems like one of those cool moms even a high schooler would have no problem hanging out with. She and her daughter look alike, both peering out through their eyeliner under their blonde hair. Dawson said she appreciates her mom more now than ever before.

But the two haven't always been so close. Dawson moved out of her mom's Stoughton house just a couple weeks after her 18th birthday. She said they "weren't on good terms."

Dawson attributes their tattoos in part for their new closeness.

"I was afraid she wouldn't come (to my tattoo sessions)," Dawson said. "It means a lot that she did."

When asked if they would ever consider getting matching tattoos, Nichols and Dawson giggled.

"We actually really do have the same taste," Dawson said, shifting her eyes to her mom. Nichols smiled.

How the kids are doing it

Teens less patient than Dawson find ways to get around Wisconsin's law prohibiting minors from getting tattoos.

Mike Spangler, the owner of Ultimate Arts Tattoo, 3236 Commercial Ave., Madison, said minors frequently get tattoos at "tattoo parties," house parties at which low-quality or failed tattoo artists work, often not carrying out the proper cross-contamination procedures. Considering health risks like HIV and hepatitis, Spangler stressed, "Parents need to be scared of this."

Spangler said tattoo parlors that take minors are not much better.

"Someone younger than 18, if they find a studio, it can't be a high-quality place," he said. "They're probably untrained, and with the health issues, it's most likely regrettable."

His advice? "Do not let (minors) get a tattoo. Period."

Spangler said his two stepchildren begged to get underage tattoos, but he didn't crack. When the oldest, now 21, got a tattoo on his 18th birthday, Spangler said it meant a lot more to him after having to wait.

"It's kind of a rite of passage," he said. " Everyone's got to move from childhood to adulthood somehow. It's a step from what you can do as a kid to what you can do as an adult."

Ultimate Arts Tattoo employee Tonia Weber, 26, said teens are more likely to do something they'll regret later.

Weber, who specializes in tattoo removal, has seen quite the range of regretted tattoos in her six years at the parlor. She said the worst were usually adolescent decisions.

"I once did a woman who's now a mother of four, but when she was 16, she got crosses up and down on her arm," Weber said. "She came in and said, 'This is just not me.'

"Another woman had a smiley face on her entire back all done with needle and thread. It was pretty shoddy, and she was pretty adamant about having it gone. Of course, she was 16 when she got it."

Removal is illegal for minors except for laser removal by a physician and a judge's mandate, which usually regards gang tattoos. To remove a tattoo in the shop, Weber has to penetrate cells with a machine to liquefy the solidified tattoo ink. She said it was a "difficult and painful process," not to mention expensive. Removing a small tattoo costs at least $50, and Weber charges $100 per hour for a large one. Laser removal can cost thousands of dollars and often takes seven to 10 sessions.

Considering the consequences, Weber said she thinks getting a tattoo at a party is "really sad."

"I don't think there's any thought put into it," Weber said. "They're drunk, so they do something stupid . . . They're just going to spend more money to get it fixed later."

More mainstream

With 11 tattoos, Weber said she doesn't plan on stopping anytime soon. She has a "sleeve" tattoo down her entire left arm and she's getting her entire right arm done as well. She said she's run into some really negative responses with which she disagrees.

"Someone that says a tattoo is gross...is ignorant," Weber said. "Some people are very accepting. The non-accepting ones are back in the 1960s, thinking they use gross needles."

Weber said her visible chest and arm tattoos have really affected her public life.

"I can't go into a store with a short sleeved shirt without someone coming up to me and grabbing my arm or saying 'that's cool,'" she said. "It's a real lack of private or personal space.

"You might be the only person with a tattoo in a room of a hundred people, and they're going to notice. They'll say, 'Oh my god, this person is weird or different.' We still get labeled a little bit."

But Spangler said that's all changing. With the sleeves of his fleece pushed up and eloquent speech, the only evidence that Spangler might be the "type" to have a tattoo is his long hair and ear piercing. He said a large percentage of his clients are professionals, citing police officers, doctors and professors. He said he thinks that as tattoos are becoming more common, parents of teenagers are becoming more comfortable with them.

"Parents are much more lenient when it comes to tattoos," he said. "It's more mainstream...most of the parents have them."

Body piercer Michael Beale, who's worked at Steve's Tattoo and Body Piercing, 1205 Williamson St., for four years, agreed.

"A lot more families come into the store," Beale said. "Dads and moms bring their kids in on their 18th birthday . . . It's probably because of cleanliness. They'd just rather bring their kid in here than have them get it done in their buddy's garage."

Beale said the shop gets a few calls a year from happy parents, which sometimes take the employees off-guard.

"Just a few weeks ago, this girl's dad called and said, 'Is the manager there?' and I'm thinking 'Oh, no,' " Beale said. "But he said, 'Just tell him so-and-so's dad wanted to call and say thanks.' "

High school tattoos

It seems Stoughton High School has embraced the prevalence of tattoos. The school newspaper annually features a matching game between pictures of tattoos and students' names.

"When you're a senior, you're 18, and (tattoos) are accepted," Dawson said.

As senior class principal of La Follette High School, Kelly Lynaugh said she's seen it all in the hallways - tattoos and piercings "wherever they find to put them."

"Parents feel it's the right of the student to express their feelings," Lynaugh said, pointing out that she thinks parents are still "more OK with" piercings than tattoos.

Like most Madison public high schools, La Follette doesn't have many regulations about either one. The only rule the administration enforces is that body art displaying inappropriate words be covered. One student, Lynaugh said, has to wear long pants everyday because he has a curse word tattoo on his calf. Lynaugh said all types of students have tattoos, from those with discipline or academic problems to those who get straight-As.

"It's across the board," she said.

"I think tattoos have always been attractive to younger people because of the rebellion aspect of them," said Beale, who's getting a "body-suit" tattoo to cover almost his whole body.

Beale said the only tattoo he regrets is the wedding ring tattoo he got six years ago. Now that he's divorced, he's planning to get it lasered off.

"That's the thing," he said. "I would tell teenagers who are going to get a tattoo to choose something they want for life."


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1 posted on 01/08/2007 2:12:55 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
One of my neighbors is a nurse at a local hospital. She said that the downside of tattoos is that as the body ages, the tattoo ink starts to break down and the image loses its clarity and gets real nasty looking.

Thank God for Lois Kapp's "Liberty Tattoo Removal Service".

2 posted on 01/08/2007 2:18:48 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

guess mom settled for a self-portrait.


3 posted on 01/08/2007 2:19:18 PM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks boat steersman hell)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have a friend who has the vast majority of his body tattooed, but nothing shows if he's wearing street clothes because that would never fly in the Geek World he lives in. (He's "Dilbert" come to life, LOL!) He has this awesome Wolfman on his back that is just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and he's now in the habit of taking off his shirt when he sees me, so I can visit with "Wolfman," LOL!

I love tattoos on others; not so sure about them on myself.

My husband has an Eagle with a big old fish in its talons on one shoulder, but unfortunately, he also has a few of those "prison tattoos" as well, though he's never been an inmate, LOL! He was one of those dopey teens with the "do it yourself" attitude as in the article.

My Ex-Husband had to go through the pain of having "me" removed from his arm before his "new" wife would marry him.

I hope it hurt like hell, LOL!


4 posted on 01/08/2007 2:20:08 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: pipecorp

Now that's just mean. Biker Moms need love too! ;)


5 posted on 01/08/2007 2:20:59 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"She wanted one, but she was stuck with (my dad) for so long"

She was stuck with him? Doesn't sound like she liked her father.


6 posted on 01/08/2007 2:22:56 PM PST by weegee ("Vote Obama - For More Ears!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gosh I hate tattoos. Several months ago I stopped at a sandwich shop, and the fellow constructing my sub had these long, gaunt arms, all decorated with dragons and skulls and whatnot. The guy was as friendly as could be, but the sight of those arms just repulsed me and took away my appetite. I sat down at a table to eat my sandwich, and I could hardly swallow it, thinking of those grotesque-looking appendages that put it together. I see tattoos like that and I immediately think of nasty, unbathed uncleanliness. Call it a phobia, I suppose. But it's something I can never seem to get mentally past. I certainly never went back to that sandwich shop.


7 posted on 01/08/2007 2:26:42 PM PST by greene66
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I've been around enough REAL Old Navy types to understand that tattoos don't get any prettier as the wearer ages.


8 posted on 01/08/2007 2:27:40 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm too much of a nonconformist to ever get a tattoo.


9 posted on 01/08/2007 2:28:15 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"I think tattoos have always been attractive to younger people because of the rebellion aspect of them"

I love how every body and his momma has one but this fool still says that....its not that its the other way..its the cool thing to do so lets get one


10 posted on 01/08/2007 2:28:59 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Real works of art.... How tasteful!


11 posted on 01/08/2007 2:30:04 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

White trash knows no geographic boundaries or class barriers.


12 posted on 01/08/2007 2:30:55 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: greene66

I understand your point of view.

But if the "artwork" was on another "canvas" you might find it very beautiful. :)

(Well, maybe not skulls and dragons...that turns me off too, LOL!)


13 posted on 01/08/2007 2:31:20 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: greene66
Gosh I hate tattoos. Several months ago I stopped at a sandwich shop, and the fellow constructing my sub had these long, gaunt arms, all decorated with dragons and skulls and whatnot. The guy was as friendly as could be, but the sight of those arms just repulsed me and took away my appetite. I sat down at a table to eat my sandwich, and I could hardly swallow it, thinking of those grotesque-looking appendages that put it together. I see tattoos like that and I immediately think of nasty, unbathed uncleanliness. Call it a phobia, I suppose. But it's something I can never seem to get mentally past. I certainly never went back to that sandwich shop.

A lot of us feel that way. The one thing that would bring certain death to us as kids was a tattoo. None of us have them.
14 posted on 01/08/2007 2:31:26 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: SmithL

My Grandpa was an old Navy Man. I agree. His "Hula Girl" didn't age well, LOL! ;)


15 posted on 01/08/2007 2:32:29 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I love (hate) the scrolls that a lot of young women are having tattooed across their back, just above their crack. I wonder if they'll later regret it. When I see a "scroll" across a young woman's back I immediately come to one conclusion - that she's a tramp. Maybe that's wrong but that's what it says to me.


16 posted on 01/08/2007 2:34:17 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Trash...


17 posted on 01/08/2007 2:34:35 PM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
There is NOTHING as ugly as an old tatoo. They fade, blur, and look very hideous after 30 years. These "tramp stamps" on millions of brainless girls will be even more of a mark of stupidity in the future.

Teen talk 2040 AD: "OOOOOH, that hag must be really OLD. She has a TATOO!"

18 posted on 01/08/2007 2:34:54 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Jaysun

"The one thing that would bring certain death to us as kids was a tattoo. None of us have them."

My Dad felt that way about pierced ears. He did not want me to have them until I was an adult, but of course, I had MaryAnne pierce mine, and I pierced hers when we were 16. I hid it from him until I was 17 (took my earrings to school to put them on) and then I left for the Army.

No more piercings and no tattoos, though. :)

Personally? I'd take a tattoo over someone that has a totally pierced face.


19 posted on 01/08/2007 2:37:55 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

One point if she smokes, one point for each tatto, one point for each piercing. Anything that adds up to four or more, she's easy.


20 posted on 01/08/2007 2:40:08 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (BUSH KNEW liberals didn't have the balls to fight terrorism.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why do women need to get tattoos? It's a huge turnoff for me. I hate them on chicks. They're just ugly and unnatural. I might as well have sex with a football player.


21 posted on 01/08/2007 2:40:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Personally? I'd take a tattoo over someone that has a totally pierced face.

My niece has her nose and eyebrow pierced. It's a pity because she was such a beautiful girl. You never look at a beautiful girl and think, "she'd look much better with a few pieces of metal hanging from her face here and there." It ruins them.
22 posted on 01/08/2007 2:41:34 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Jaysun

The technical term for that is "Tramp Stamp".


23 posted on 01/08/2007 2:41:59 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: Jaysun

"You never look at a beautiful girl and think, 'she'd look much better with a few pieces of metal hanging from her face here and there.'"

LOL! Love it. :)


24 posted on 01/08/2007 2:42:33 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

One of my favorites.

25 posted on 01/08/2007 2:42:50 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
One point if she smokes, one point for each tatto, one point for each piercing. Anything that adds up to four or more, she's easy.

Points should also be awarded for those that wear hats and those who have dyed their hair a burgundy color.
26 posted on 01/08/2007 2:43:59 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: SmithL
The technical term for that is "Tramp Stamp".

And it's a fitting one. Thanks.
27 posted on 01/08/2007 2:45:16 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I wonder if in another 20 years if any of these people will still want to look like a circus attraction?


28 posted on 01/08/2007 2:45:43 PM PST by Mustard Plaster
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To: Doomonyou

And this guy will spend his whole life whining about how no one will hire him for anything over minimum wage.


29 posted on 01/08/2007 2:47:29 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Whatever you do, don't try to reason with the anti-tat folks around here. It's a losing battle.

Let's see, "tramp stamp" took less than 20 posts. Soon there will be terms like "slut", "trash", oh wait... trashy has been used to.


30 posted on 01/08/2007 2:48:43 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: CFC__VRWC

Or whining about why no woman will say "yes" when he asks for a date.


31 posted on 01/08/2007 2:50:32 PM PST by Doomonyou (I voted and all I got was a FUBAR Congress.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
a mark of stupidity

you mean like being in the ACLU is??

32 posted on 01/08/2007 2:50:45 PM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
latent fantasy???
33 posted on 01/08/2007 2:53:12 PM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: FormerACLUmember

"...mark of stupidity in the future."

Except it will be on a completely different site than where they were originally tattooed.


34 posted on 01/08/2007 2:55:25 PM PST by clinkclink
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Tattoos are repulsive, period.
35 posted on 01/08/2007 2:55:47 PM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"I can't say nothing," Lori said, laughing

************

Attractive and intelligent.

36 posted on 01/08/2007 2:57:14 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jaysun

The guys I work with call those scroll tats "Tramp Stamps". I just wonder how many of those rosebuds that girls are getting are going to be long-stemmed in the future. And they won't be pretty.


37 posted on 01/08/2007 2:57:16 PM PST by trimom
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To: lormand
alright...youve completed the survey...move along now
38 posted on 01/08/2007 2:57:37 PM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Why do women need to get tattoos? It's a huge turnoff for me. I hate them on chicks. They're just ugly and unnatural."

...glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

39 posted on 01/08/2007 2:58:19 PM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Go to a Park. Kiss someone you love. Laugh. Be kind. Run until you have no breath. Overtip the poor breakfast waitress. Fall on your knees and sing praises to God, thanking Him for your life!


just don't get a tat huh??


40 posted on 01/08/2007 3:07:34 PM PST by justche (When moderators aren't anonymous, I'll consider donating again.)
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To: justche

well done, my friend.


41 posted on 01/08/2007 3:08:29 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: CFC__VRWC
And this guy will spend his whole life whining about how no one will hire him for anything over minimum wage.

And not even some of those. Would you eat the pizza he delivered to your door?

42 posted on 01/08/2007 3:10:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He has this awesome Wolfman on his back that is just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen...

Really?

Or is it the most beautiful tattoo you've ever seen?

43 posted on 01/08/2007 3:12:18 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

To each his own. I don't have one yet, but my husband has a profile of the devil on one shoulder and a cross (that was done when he was 11, with piano wire) on the other shoulder. Someday he wants to get a more elaborate catholic cross in it's place. Meanwhile, I still haven't decided if I want one or not. If I decide to, it'll be a small one, probably on my ankle or some place discreet.

IMO, tattoos are fine as long as they are in places that can be covered, if need be. While some tattoos are scary, evil and sometimes not very appropriate (as in the sandwich shop post above) and I agree that that is distasteful to be forced to view them, there are some really cool tats out there that blow my mind, the talent of some of these tat artists...wow.

Again, to each his own.


44 posted on 01/08/2007 3:15:50 PM PST by Lucky9teen (You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.)
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To: conservativebabe

I'll show you mine if you show me yours

*LOL*


45 posted on 01/08/2007 3:16:41 PM PST by justche (When moderators aren't anonymous, I'll consider donating again.)
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To: conservativebabe

"Let's see, "tramp stamp" took less than 20 posts. Soon there will be terms like "slut", "trash", oh wait... trashy has been used to."

Well, there's a reason for that.

Some of us have been around and call it as we see it.


46 posted on 01/08/2007 3:20:11 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
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47 posted on 01/08/2007 3:20:53 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Doomonyou

48 posted on 01/08/2007 3:25:28 PM PST by woofie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Most tattoos are unidentifiable from more than a foot or so. They just look like splotches from a distance. And how many women that were born with a blue splotch in the shape of a butterfly on their ankle, would be bummed with such a deformity? And want it removed.
49 posted on 01/08/2007 3:25:31 PM PST by FreedomGuru (Happy Birthday Elvis!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
One point if she smokes, one point for each tatto, one point for each piercing. Anything that adds up to four or more, she's easy.

Highly accurate. I would give 2 points for one of those above the anal crevice female tatoos, the so-called "tramp stamp."

Four points also appears highly correlated with STD, unfaithfulness, and infertility. Such four pointer losers should be avoided like the plague in my view.

50 posted on 01/08/2007 3:27:19 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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