Posted on 03/30/2006 3:45:30 PM PST by Dane
Presently, that's largely cattle and forage; it has been fruit and vegetables.
Which crops do you raise on your farm?
What part of illegal don't you get?
JMO, there is a big difference between rape and picking produce in a criminal sense.
Why, I bet in parts of Tennesse folks has got to clean their own houses and do their own laundry. How can you live that way?
Okay, thank you for your reply. I'm not an expert, but cattle and forage is not as labor intensive as produce.
Grains and forage can be easily mechanized since people don't care what their bread or cereal looks like.
They do care what their fresh tomatoes, apples, and grapes(etc.etc) look like.
And I don't farm and not an agricultural expert, but using common sense, would you buy a bruised tomato or apple?
A criminal is a criminal. Crossing the border for the purposes of economic terrorism is a crime.
Illegal aliens are economic terrosists. You are a supporter of terrorists.
My grandparents came here and never protested to have slovakian become the national language, and didn't demand their drivers license test be printed in slovakian, they learned the culture and did their damn best to assimilate, not take over after coming here illegally.
Illegal aliens are economic terrosists. You are a supporter of terrorists.
No I am not, if anything you could be called an economic terrorist since you wish to disrupt the livelihood of a good and honest living, farming.
Isn't that what Jefferson Davis said about cotton?
We simply refuse to do that work; we are Americans, after all. That's why we stink and have lice.
No chance in hell, bro, but all employers have rules to follow, thos who do not should face appropriate punishmnet.
You are by your own admission no farmer. Pick another category of worker, becaudse arounf me there are no farming jobs, but plenty of mexican ecomnomic terrorists running around.
Your argument is starting to reek of bovine feces.I doubt you have ever had your boots in it, having earned a hard earned days pay. I have.
You are probably an employer of economic terrorists, making mega-profit by doing it the sleazy and illegal way.
You are really starting to disgust me.
Eli Whitney brought his cotton Gin to Jeff Davis' plantation. The slaves were climbing all over it when Eli Whitney said the words that made him famous "Get your cotton picking hands off my gin".
BTTT
Damn, I need new glasses, or new fingers to type better.
Have no idea, and cotton was being grown before mechanization and now can be picked by mechanization.
Also people don't buy raw cotton in the grocery store.
Also can you show me where these migrant workers are picking crops at the crack of a whip or held as property of the farmer?
"It's a shame that nobody picks up the trash or sells snow cones in the parts of the country where there isn't a significant illegal alien presence. I guess the people in those places must be hot & thirsty as well as hip-deep in trash, since Americans won't do those jobs."
Having been in many of those places I've wondered what magic keeps the yards mowed, the restaurants operating, the cars washed, and the construction sites working.
The same is true for virtually every other crop now produced in the Midwest. When I was a kid, a cornfield had to be "opened" by hand, weeds in soy bean fields had to be killed by hand, cows had to be milked by hand, eggs had to be gathered by hand, ad infinitum. Not too many years ago, the United Farm Workers decided that Midwestern farmers couldn't pick a tomato crop without migrant workers; the UFW struck and all tomatoes are now picked mechanically.
How can it be "honest" if you are hiring ILLEGAL immigrants, paying them less than the federally mandated minimum wage, avoiding paying the payroll taxes on those wages, avoiding paying the FICA on those wages, avoiding paying the unemployment, workman's comp, disability, health insurance on those workers and wages, avoiding dealing with any type of unions, not dealing with OSHA or any other oversight bureaucracy for the workers.
You break any multitude of laws then claim to be making an "honest" living?
Perhaps not "you" specifically, but being in a family owned small business I'm well aware of all the regulations and taxes that have to be followed and paid to the government just to be in business just to hire legal workers.
Those that hire illegals are skirting those laws and responsibilities in the name of cheap labor.
The farm near me is a lot bigger than 40 acres. Actually, it is a number of farms all in the same area. It is supporting at least 3 generations of the same family, their spouses and children, and they have put a lot of money back into it buying more land, building greenhouses, and enlarging the farm market which is now open year round. For all I know the crew of Hispanics could all be legals. The only thing that makes me think they probably are not is that the state police on the interstate near us has investigated a lot of vans with crews of workers who have had wrecks, or run into legal problems.
I'm not applying for it tomorrow. But I've held both of those jobs in my life. And if tomorrow I couldn't find better work I'd do them again.
If there aren't workers to do it then the price of the wage goes up until it either attracts workers or the resulting increase in product prices causes consumers to quit buying the product and the job goes away.
As long as my wife keeps buyin groceries we'll keep buying vegetables
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